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(Capt Lou) wrote:

The (Massachusetts) state police (and even some harbormasters) claim
they too can board any vessel without probable cause because they are
"deputized" by U.S. Customs.

All kinds of LEO's CLAIM that they can do this and that, but the LAW
is very clear on these points. US Flagged Vessels can only be boarded
against the skippers wishes by USCG and US Marshals. The point can
be debated, at the point of a gun, but in Court, after you spent your
jailtime waiting for trial, the LAW will prevail. Most LEO's understand
this, and get a USCG Officer/Noncom to accompany any boarding, or get
one of the local US Marshals to go along. When I was a FED, (FCC)
this was SOP for us when we were refused boarding. I remeber an incident
down in Grays Harbor, WA, where one of my fellow Agents wanted to inspect
a local charterboat, and the skipper refused to allow him to board. He
went down to the local USCG Lifeboat Detachment, and got the CPO, to
mount a Boarding Party with M60's and Tompson's and returned to the
charterboat, boarded and found 50Kg of dope stuffed under a bunk.
Our guy busted him for an expired SOLAS Certificate, but the USCG
took the boat and the guy got 20 Years in the Federal Slam for Drug
Running.

Bruce in alaska who recognizes that LEO's LIE all the time about
what they can do.........
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add a 2 before @

Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it empties
into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very easy to be in
Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats as they were loaded
onto their trailers. From what I've heard this isn't a common occurrence.
Paul

"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

Bruce,
I believe the U.S. Customs can also board without probable cause. I
understand that if you have a trailer boat they can follow you home and
then
search the home. Customs has a lot of power.
Paul

Not sure about Customs, if you didn't leave US Waters. I suspect that
if you "cleared customs" that they then would need a Warrent for any
further inspection. If you didn't leave US Waters then they would
need "Cause" to board you, I think.

Bruce in alaska
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add a 2 before @

Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it empties
into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very easy to be in
Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats as they were loaded
onto their trailers. From what I've heard this isn't a common occurrence.
Paul

"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

Bruce,
I believe the U.S. Customs can also board without probable cause. I
understand that if you have a trailer boat they can follow you home and
then
search the home. Customs has a lot of power.
Paul

Not sure about Customs, if you didn't leave US Waters. I suspect that
if you "cleared customs" that they then would need a Warrent for any
further inspection. If you didn't leave US Waters then they would
need "Cause" to board you, I think.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in
:

Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by
Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it
empties into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very
easy to be in Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats
as they were loaded onto their trailers. From what I've heard this
isn't a common occurrence. Paul


As soon as the US drug manufacturer *******s can buy off your congressman,
mandatory inspections for cheaper Canadian-sourced prescriptions will
become more important than the length and weight of the fish in the bucket.

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in
:

Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by
Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it
empties into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very
easy to be in Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats
as they were loaded onto their trailers. From what I've heard this
isn't a common occurrence. Paul


As soon as the US drug manufacturer *******s can buy off your congressman,
mandatory inspections for cheaper Canadian-sourced prescriptions will
become more important than the length and weight of the fish in the bucket.

Larry,
You're right, it'll be another chapter in "the war on drugs"
Paul

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
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"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in
:

Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by
Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it
empties into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very
easy to be in Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats
as they were loaded onto their trailers. From what I've heard this
isn't a common occurrence. Paul


As soon as the US drug manufacturer *******s can buy off your congressman,
mandatory inspections for cheaper Canadian-sourced prescriptions will
become more important than the length and weight of the fish in the
bucket.

Larry,
You're right, it'll be another chapter in "the war on drugs"
Paul

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in
:

Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by
Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it
empties into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very
easy to be in Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats
as they were loaded onto their trailers. From what I've heard this
isn't a common occurrence. Paul


As soon as the US drug manufacturer *******s can buy off your congressman,
mandatory inspections for cheaper Canadian-sourced prescriptions will
become more important than the length and weight of the fish in the
bucket.

"
I was speaking about US Customs Officers in the above, not USCG personel.


The Coast Guard is the marine enforcement unit for the US Customs office.
At times of war the USCG reports to the Navy, but otherwise they report to
the Customs office.

Rod

"
I was speaking about US Customs Officers in the above, not USCG personel.


The Coast Guard is the marine enforcement unit for the US Customs office.
At times of war the USCG reports to the Navy, but otherwise they report to
the Customs office.

Rod

In article ,
says...



"
I was speaking about US Customs Officers in the above, not USCG personel.


The Coast Guard is the marine enforcement unit for the US Customs office.
At times of war the USCG reports to the Navy, but otherwise they report to
the Customs office.

No. They report to the Department of Homeland Security (what a great Nazi
name). They used to report to the Treasury Department hence the connection
with Customs. But that was before they became part of the Department of
Transportation.