On May 25, 7:51 am, Jeff wrote:
* Messing In Boats wrote, On 5/25/2007 5:43 AM:

I recently brought mt boat into their Wrightsville Beach, SC facility
for repair. Their tech misdiagnosed the problem and replaced all my
fuel filters instead of finding the one bad fuel injector. Then they
wanted to rebuild or replace all the injectors and the injector pump,
so I pulled out and found someone else...

Hmmm. Replace filters before pulling the injectors for testing. That
sounds reasonable. But why wouldn't you have done that yourself?
Rebuild all injectors once some of them show a problem? Maybe,
depends on the age.

It sounds to me like you didn't want to do the basic
maintenance/diagnostics and now you're complaining. FWIW, I've been
in exactly the same situation, and the moral I learned is that I
should be able to do almost all of the work on the boat. That way, I
don't pay someone else $200 to change a filter.

I agree on that one. If you're doing the work yourself then it is
more of an option to just replace a couple of bad injectors and see
how it goes. Knwoing that you can stick a couple more in if needed.
Worst thing about injectors is pulling them as they are usually in
there pretty good. Shop can't afford to take that approach.

jamesgangnc wrote in
oups.com:

Worst thing about injectors is pulling them as they are usually in
there pretty good.

Huh? Some unscrew like a spark plug. Others have two bolts holding down a
holder bar like our Perkins. You'll need a socket and open end wrench to
get the line off it. It helps if an intake or exhaust valve is open...(c;

Larry
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Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Larry,

Good to see you participating again.

On a less positive note, I'll guess you've never pulled a set of diesel
injectors. More often than not they don't just pop right out.

If they are really "in there" the only way to remove them is to loosen the
mounting hardware a skosh and crnk the engine in hopes that the compression
pressures will knock them loose. Do not, repeat, do not remove the mounting
hardware before cranking the engine. An injector flying through the air is
just like a missle and quite as deadly.

Butch
"Larry" wrote in message
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jamesgangnc wrote in
oups.com:

Worst thing about injectors is pulling them as they are usually in
there pretty good.

Huh? Some unscrew like a spark plug. Others have two bolts holding down
a
holder bar like our Perkins. You'll need a socket and open end wrench to
get the line off it. It helps if an intake or exhaust valve is open...(c;

Larry
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Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

* Butch Davis wrote, On 5/26/2007 10:05 AM:

If they are really "in there" the only way to remove them is to loosen the
mounting hardware a skosh and crnk the engine in hopes that the compression
pressures will knock them loose. Do not, repeat, do not remove the mounting
hardware before cranking the engine. An injector flying through the air is
just like a missle and quite as deadly.


But if you do loosen the mounting hardware and then decide not to pull
them, remember to tighten again. Only an idiot would forget to do
that. Don't ask me how I know.

On Sat, 26 May 2007 03:22:11 +0000, Larry wrote:

Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Civil Engineering Graduate School Fact:

For a tall building to collapse on its footprint, the central support
column should be gravity load bearing and the edge columns should
provide the wind resistance structure . Like, oh, the World Trade
towers.

Gravity overload pulls out the center column fixings, while the edge
columns provide precision collapse guidance.

How 'bout that!

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 03:22:11 +0000, Larry wrote:

Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Civil Engineering Graduate School Fact:

For a tall building to collapse on its footprint, the central support
column should be gravity load bearing and the edge columns should
provide the wind resistance structure . Like, oh, the World Trade
towers.

Gravity overload pulls out the center column fixings, while the edge
columns provide precision collapse guidance.

How 'bout that!

Brian Whatcott Altus OK


Not for nothing, but the central support columnS (multiple) were not even
touched by the planes.

In rec.boats KLC Lewis wrote:


:Not for nothing, but the central support columnS (multiple) were not even
:touched by the planes.

The towers fell down due to fire damage, not because of the impacts.

On May 27, 7:38 pm, David Scheidt wrote:
In rec.boats KLC Lewis wrote:

:Not for nothing, but the central support columnS (multiple) were not even
:touched by the planes.

The towers fell down due to fire damage, not because of the impacts.

You are wasting your breath David.

Such retards think a demolition team wired the twin towers, flew
planes into them and tried to trick them into thinking it was a
terriorist attack so George Bush could invade Iraq. They think there
are 100's of Americans (that's how many it would take to plan and pull
off such a demolition) all keeping quiet about the mass murder of over
3000 fellow Americans. Not to mention the supposed missle flying into
the Pentagon and the crash in PA.

They are pathetic and discrace the murder victims who died at the
hands of Ossama Bin Ladens AlQueida terriorists. They would rather
blame thier fellow Americans.

Joe

Joe wrote in news:1180313826.566640.183070
@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

Such retards think a demolition team wired the twin towers, flew
planes into them and tried to trick them into thinking it was a
terriorist attack so George Bush could invade Iraq. They think there
are 100's of Americans (that's how many it would take to plan and pull
off such a demolition) all keeping quiet about the mass murder of over
3000 fellow Americans. Not to mention the supposed missle flying into
the Pentagon and the crash in PA.


Around 3 weeks prior to the "attack", for the first time in their
history, the World Trade Center towers, including Building 7 you all seem
to forget so conveniently, were CLOSED for "network cable installations".
Many of the towers office inhabitants also reported hearing jackhammers
running on floors of the towers they knew were uninhabited for weeks
before the attack. The vacant floors and rental problems were more than
enough reason to want to destroy them. They were losing vast sums of
money from unrented floors....too expensive, even for New Yorkers.

Never before in the history of the towers were they ever closed up tight,
even when vast contractors were installing many cables in the past....

Your not curious why??

Also curious, Joe, is the very low number of Jewish funerals that took
place, as noted by several black organizations doing their own
investigations. There's a YouTube documentary about it, too. In a
building very heavily populated with Jewish businesses manned by Jewish
people, diamond merchants, banking, stock market firms, gold merchants,
aren't you even a little curious why on a single day so few of them came
to work to die with the rest of the people in the building? Were they
warned? Some day, we'll find out, I hope. The families of other
murdered people deserve to know, don't you think? (You can now call me
an antisemite for saying Jew on the internet. I don't care, one way or
the other.)

Larry
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What country had the most to gain by angering America into attacking
Arabs and Iranians? Think about it.....

On 27 May 2007 17:57:06 -0700, Joe wrote:

On May 27, 7:38 pm, David Scheidt wrote:
In rec.boats KLC Lewis wrote:

:Not for nothing, but the central support columnS (multiple) were not even
:touched by the planes.

The towers fell down due to fire damage, not because of the impacts.

You are wasting your breath David.

Such retards think a demolition team wired the twin towers, flew
planes into them and tried to trick them into thinking it was a
terriorist attack so George Bush could invade Iraq. They think there
are 100's of Americans (that's how many it would take to plan and pull
off such a demolition) all keeping quiet about the mass murder of over
3000 fellow Americans. Not to mention the supposed missle flying into
the Pentagon and the crash in PA.

They are pathetic and discrace the murder victims who died at the
hands of Ossama Bin Ladens AlQueida terriorists. They would rather
blame thier fellow Americans.

Joe

I wonder whether the Conspiracy Theorists have any concept of the size
and cost of the conspiracy they envision.

Example: Disregard for a moment the hundreds of actual participants in
the actual mining of the towers projected by the theorists.

I was in somebody's office waiting to make a presentation about two
years after the disaster, and glanced through an issue of one of the
Civil Engineering trade magazines that had a rather detailed account
of the study done on the towers to establish exactly why they fell
down. the study was made with the idea that possibly engineering codes
might need to be changed.

As I say, I only glanced through the issue but the findings seemed to
be that fires fueled by the airplanes being nearly full of fuel and at
least one of the towers had a large diesel tank for back-up generators
that also ruptured were the cause of failure to the steel and concrete
structure.

My point is that in addition to covering up the actual sabotage of the
towers envisioned by the Theorists the people responsible would have
to be controlling peer reviewed publications for years after the
event.

Given that the cover up of the "My Lai incident", which caused the
death of a relatively few people when viewed in the context of 9/11,
didn't work it is unrealistic to believe that the theorists
explanation is logical.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

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