Scotty wrote:

What, exactly, is ''blue water friendly'' ?

SBV

I never mentioned BLUE WATER friendly.....as i said no flames please
and by the way blue water friendly means to me at least a boat that does
not get green over the coach roof in 10 or 12 foot sea's.spray water
runoff and the odd foamer down the deck yes but not green water.

Gordon ! after sailing a rl24 for 3 years in many differant sea's (ocean
and sheltered ) i will think the 34 will seem like a rock to me :-)
32deg 00min 29.56 sec south
115deg 39min 58.66sec east is my play ground

"Chi Chi" wrote in message
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Shaun,
I am in the process of buying a 1981 37 foot hunter cutter

rigged but it has

a shoal keel, don't know much about sail boats yet have

only ever had power

boats before. I was told that the early 80's cherubini

design are excellent

quality and design boats, plus the price I'm paying for it

at $25,000.00

with all the accessory's the current seller has added to

make it a more live

aboard comfortable and blue water friendly i don't think I

can wrong with

it. I had the boat surveyed and my surveyor told me the

boat and all the

extra's included make a real good deal and I shouldn't

have any problems

other then a few minor things but that's to be expected He

siad he would

feel comfortable and safe going to the carribean in it as

it sits now so I

think I'm gonna be ok with it. I have heard that the later

80's models had

some problems so You might want to consider only looking

at the early 80's

models.

"shaun" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:

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32deg 00min 29.56 sec south
115deg 39min 58.66sec east is my play ground


right in the middle between Leighton and Rotto.

Have you got a mooring organised for Rotto or going in the ballot?

Good luck in the search!

Hoges in WA

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Hoges in WA wrote:
"shaun" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:


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32deg 00min 29.56 sec south
115deg 39min 58.66sec east is my play ground



right in the middle between Leighton and Rotto.

Have you got a mooring organised for Rotto or going in the ballot?

Good luck in the search!

Hoges in WA

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I tend to keep away during the peak season and never come in b4 7pm
anyhow and due to that allways find a empty public mooring and i am off
the mooring by 6 am. In 12 years of sailing around rotto never been
asked to move on as there is always plenty of empty moorings about.....
very lucky i s'pose
Apart from deck fluff i never like summer at rotto anyhow
Shaun

"shaun" wrote in message
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Hoges in WA wrote:
"shaun" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:


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32deg 00min 29.56 sec south
115deg 39min 58.66sec east is my play ground



right in the middle between Leighton and Rotto.

Have you got a mooring organised for Rotto or going in the ballot?

Good luck in the search!

Hoges in WA

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I tend to keep away during the peak season and never come in b4 7pm anyhow
and due to that allways find a empty public mooring and i am off the
mooring by 6 am. In 12 years of sailing around rotto never been asked to
move on as there is always plenty of empty moorings about.....
very lucky i s'pose
Apart from deck fluff i never like summer at rotto anyhow
Shaun


Sounds like good management rather than good luck. What about north-er like
Abrolhos, Monte Bellos etc?

Hoges in WA

Hoges in WA wrote:
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Sounds like good management rather than good luck. What about north-er like
Abrolhos, Monte Bellos etc?

Hoges in WA


To be honest no......not yet but Ningaloo is planned very shortly after
boat gets home..grin
Have spent many weeks (over a few years) fishing/diving camping at
ningaloo 22deg 29min 11.09sec S 113deg 43min 46.30sec E
and have decided that the boat is now the only way i want to do it.
Have spent a little..repeat little time around geraldton :-)
and do like the area...minus the cray pots tho.
you sail Hoges..? or is it still the great wish/dream :-)
(no insult by the way)

"shaun" wrote in message
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Hoges in WA wrote:
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Sounds like good management rather than good luck. What about north-er
like Abrolhos, Monte Bellos etc?

Hoges in WA
To be honest no......not yet but Ningaloo is planned very shortly after
boat gets home..grin
Have spent many weeks (over a few years) fishing/diving camping at
ningaloo 22deg 29min 11.09sec S 113deg 43min 46.30sec E
and have decided that the boat is now the only way i want to do it.
Have spent a little..repeat little time around geraldton :-)
and do like the area...minus the cray pots tho.
you sail Hoges..? or is it still the great wish/dream :-)
(no insult by the way)

sail but no boat......yet.
presently invested, will liquidate the day I need the boat (give or take
etc)

I'm a bit older than you so the retirement plans are falling gently into
place.
With better planning years ago I should have done what you are doing but
wasn't wise enough early enough.
Still, it's almost here now

Hoges in WA

Scotty wrote:

What, exactly, is ''blue water friendly'' ?


shaun wrote:
I never mentioned BLUE WATER friendly.....as i said no flames please
and by the way blue water friendly means to me at least a boat that does
not get green over the coach roof in 10 or 12 foot sea's.spray water
runoff and the odd foamer down the deck yes but not green water.


Well, the H-34 (you mean this one?)
http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...30&fno=0&bts=T
has plenty of reserve bouyancy, I expect you'd be
complaining more about the bouncy wet ride than green water
over the deck.

Hunters seem to concentrate on roominess rather than any
other particular aspect, the H34 is *palatial* inside
compared to almost anything else in that size/age/price
range. And they aren't slow pokey sailers, either.

The biggest problems Hunters (the American ones, I mean)
have is that they are somewhat underbuilt and often have
systems problems. The most common complaint I've heard from
guys who have cruised them hard is that the steering breaks
down.

BTW Hunter has always been a low-priced mass-produced boat.
So people who say 'The old ones are better built' or some
variation on the theme, 'The late '80s models started having
QA problems' etc etc are probably reflecting anecdotal
evidence rather than serious decision-influencing data. A
close personal inspection of the individual boat in question
is the only way to tell what it's built like, or more
importantly what it's maintenance has been.

Hope this helps.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

BTW Hunter has always been a low-priced mass-produced boat.
So people who say 'The old ones are better built' or some
variation on the theme, 'The late '80s models started having
QA problems' etc etc are probably reflecting anecdotal
evidence rather than serious decision-influencing data.



Our full service yard on City Island has done many many repairs on
Hunters, often insurance work and on occasion, some waranty work. We
have no doubt at all that models from the early to mid 80's held up
better than models in the 90's, at least in our NY climate.
Quite recently we have several new Hunter boats operating via charter
with us and they appear to be far better built. Talking to full service
yards and surveyors will give some general indication of problems you
might face. A yard like ours, which does not carry a new line of boats
is likely to be more honest about repair history.


Robert
35s5
NY

"Capt" Rob wrote:
.... Talking to full service
yards and surveyors will give some general indication of problems you
might face. A yard like ours, which does not carry a new line of boats
is likely to be more honest about repair history.


That would be good advice, as long one avoids pretend
"surveyors" and internet-fantasy boatyards. There is no
substitute for checking things out in person.

DSK

That would be good advice, as long one avoids pretend
"surveyors" and internet-fantasy boatyards.



Sorry about Doug, folks. He continues to be a troll. BTW, he has no
sailboat. The yard he insists doesn't exist can be seen here for
example....on my webpage:

http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/page1.html

I sell sailboats for them and my friend runs the service dept. Previous
to that Anthony Serling handled some warranty work for Hunter in the
mid 90's, including the oil-canning problems that were solved with SS
bars...also done at our yard.
But those problems of the 90's have no bearing on the 80's boats which
are far less prone to deck problems for example. I recently sold a
Hunter 43 which was very well maintained, yet was showing wear at a
higher than acceptable rate.
Please keep in mind that my observations and those of our service dept.
is generally with boats in this area, with all due consideration to our
weather. Boats in different areas will wear differently of course. For
our area boats with severe delamination issue rep's a
Irwin, Catalina, Ericson, and later Hunters.
BTW, in spite of what poor DSK says if anyone in my area needs storage,
slips, service, sails and canvas...contact me to avoid higher prices.
We are the best yard in the area...and I keep my boats there as well.
It's a truly honestly run place and they look out for your investment.
Again, I apologize for DSK. He can't seem to understand that this is
not ASA.


Robert
35s5
NY