Scotty wrote:

What, exactly, is ''blue water friendly'' ?


shaun wrote:
I never mentioned BLUE WATER friendly.....as i said no flames please
and by the way blue water friendly means to me at least a boat that does
not get green over the coach roof in 10 or 12 foot sea's.spray water
runoff and the odd foamer down the deck yes but not green water.


Well, the H-34 (you mean this one?)
http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...30&fno=0&bts=T
has plenty of reserve bouyancy, I expect you'd be
complaining more about the bouncy wet ride than green water
over the deck.

Hunters seem to concentrate on roominess rather than any
other particular aspect, the H34 is *palatial* inside
compared to almost anything else in that size/age/price
range. And they aren't slow pokey sailers, either.

The biggest problems Hunters (the American ones, I mean)
have is that they are somewhat underbuilt and often have
systems problems. The most common complaint I've heard from
guys who have cruised them hard is that the steering breaks
down.

BTW Hunter has always been a low-priced mass-produced boat.
So people who say 'The old ones are better built' or some
variation on the theme, 'The late '80s models started having
QA problems' etc etc are probably reflecting anecdotal
evidence rather than serious decision-influencing data. A
close personal inspection of the individual boat in question
is the only way to tell what it's built like, or more
importantly what it's maintenance has been.

Hope this helps.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

BTW Hunter has always been a low-priced mass-produced boat.
So people who say 'The old ones are better built' or some
variation on the theme, 'The late '80s models started having
QA problems' etc etc are probably reflecting anecdotal
evidence rather than serious decision-influencing data.



Our full service yard on City Island has done many many repairs on
Hunters, often insurance work and on occasion, some waranty work. We
have no doubt at all that models from the early to mid 80's held up
better than models in the 90's, at least in our NY climate.
Quite recently we have several new Hunter boats operating via charter
with us and they appear to be far better built. Talking to full service
yards and surveyors will give some general indication of problems you
might face. A yard like ours, which does not carry a new line of boats
is likely to be more honest about repair history.


Robert
35s5
NY

"shaun" wrote in message

t.au...
Scotty wrote:

What, exactly, is ''blue water friendly'' ?

SBV

I never mentioned BLUE WATER friendly.....

Didn't say that *you* did.

Chi Chi did. But thanks for the answer.

SBV

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shaun wrote:

What i am looking for is REAL not percieved or imagined faults with the
hunter 34 1980 to 1987 type, deep keel tall rig. 80% of my sailing will
be offshore coastal along the Western Australian coast.

Friends had an about '82 34, I believe Cherubini, and by about 96, they
had some serious work to do, including structural bulkhead(s). Boat's
still at the marina, but our friends dumped out of the partnership and I
don't see the boat away from the dock much.

Sweet interior, though. Was the only boat under about 40' that we
thought would be a real step up from our Xan.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html

Jere Lull wrote:

In article
,
shaun wrote:


What i am looking for is REAL not percieved or imagined faults with the
hunter 34 1980 to 1987 type, deep keel tall rig. 80% of my sailing will
be offshore coastal along the Western Australian coast.


Friends had an about '82 34, I believe Cherubini, and by about 96, they
had some serious work to do, including structural bulkhead(s). Boat's
still at the marina, but our friends dumped out of the partnership and I
don't see the boat away from the dock much.

Sweet interior, though. Was the only boat under about 40' that we
thought would be a real step up from our Xan.

hi ya Jere have read about your freighter :-)
glad to see that you have found your boat and hope you enjoy her for
many more miles.
Any new updates since about 2 years ago...that was about the first time
i read about your XAN

In article
,
shaun wrote:

hi ya Jere have read about your freighter :-)
glad to see that you have found your boat and hope you enjoy her for
many more miles.
Any new updates since about 2 years ago...that was about the first time
i read about your XAN


You may be confusing me with Paul V, the author of cruisenews.net.

We've had Xan for 12-13 seasons now. It's gotten almost boring: head
down Friday afternoon, head out some place, have a great time,
reluctantly head home sometime Sunday. Did 3 week-long trips and the
pattern was essentially: wake up, decide whether to move, move or not,
enjoy the scenery, eat, sleep.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Jere Lull wrote:

In article
,
shaun wrote:


hi ya Jere have read about your freighter :-)
glad to see that you have found your boat and hope you enjoy her for
many more miles.
Any new updates since about 2 years ago...that was about the first time
i read about your XAN



You may be confusing me with Paul V, the author of cruisenews.net.

We've had Xan for 12-13 seasons now. It's gotten almost boring: head
down Friday afternoon, head out some place, have a great time,
reluctantly head home sometime Sunday. Did 3 week-long trips and the
pattern was essentially: wake up, decide whether to move, move or not,
enjoy the scenery, eat, sleep.

I may be...but i don't Think i am....grin. I Must be suffering from
C.R.A.F.T.*
Was very sure that i had read about your boat quite a while ago and was
imressed by your loyalty to a boat that many people laughed at
(out the other side of there face when you passed them) it seems to be
that way about the hunters as well, over here they have a very good rep.
Mind you, you try and find one in WA (Western Australia).

Shaun

* Can't Remember A ****ing Thing

Others have given you lots to think about. I agree that Hunter is a
"price-point" boat. That's partly why I bought one. Last year, she
survived Katrina and Rita in New Orleans, then Wilma in Key West. In
between, she took us safely across the Gulf of Mexico in some of the
worst weather I've been in, in 40-plus years of sailing.

And as others have said, the interior is very user-friendly. My kids
preferred it to a C&C39 we also looked at, which had been my first
choice for our purchase.

FYI FWIW YMMV,

Frank
S/V Zombie Princess of New Orleans, 1984 Hunter 34

shaun wrote in news:4550b349$0$3042$5a62ac22@per-
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What i am looking for is REAL not percieved or imagined faults with the
hunter 34 1980 to 1987 type, deep keel tall rig. 80% of my sailing will
be offshore coastal along the Western Australian coast.


Nice boat if you never leave the harbor. To realize what I'm saying, take
a battery-powered portable drill with a hole saw attachment on it and make
a hole about 30cm below the toerail for a new bilge pump fitting to go in.

Take the plastic plug out of the hole saw and look at the edge of it and
notice its thickness...number of layers of fiberglass...guess its strength.

You're going offshore in the big waves in this thin a hull?!

Look under the cockpit seats at the hull. See all those supports making
this really thin hull so stiff it can't possibly flex or crack when that
big 18' monster crashes into it 50 km off Melbourne? I didn't.

Like I say....Nice boat if you're never going to leave the harbor. I put
an installed Whale hand pump in a friends Hunter 34. When I showed up with
a hole saw in a little portable drill, he thought it was funny and I'd
never drill through the hull for the outlet fitting. Boy, was he
shocked...(c;

Larry
--
Halloween candy left over.....
Is there a downside?

what year hunter was this? I just redid my holding tank and installed all
new plumbing to included a new thru hull and on my 1981 hunter 37 cutter the
hull for the holding tank pump out was at least 3/4 of an inch thick if not
more. Previous owners have cruised with this boat all over to include the
carribean, mexico, hawaii.
Now I admit I know nothing about nothing when it comes to boats but to my
uneducated eye it looked pretty solid and thick enough for my comfort.
"Larry" wrote in message
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shaun wrote in news:4550b349$0$3042$5a62ac22@per-
qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:

What i am looking for is REAL not percieved or imagined faults with the
hunter 34 1980 to 1987 type, deep keel tall rig. 80% of my sailing will
be offshore coastal along the Western Australian coast.


Nice boat if you never leave the harbor. To realize what I'm saying, take
a battery-powered portable drill with a hole saw attachment on it and make
a hole about 30cm below the toerail for a new bilge pump fitting to go in.

Take the plastic plug out of the hole saw and look at the edge of it and
notice its thickness...number of layers of fiberglass...guess its
strength.

You're going offshore in the big waves in this thin a hull?!

Look under the cockpit seats at the hull. See all those supports making
this really thin hull so stiff it can't possibly flex or crack when that
big 18' monster crashes into it 50 km off Melbourne? I didn't.

Like I say....Nice boat if you're never going to leave the harbor. I put
an installed Whale hand pump in a friends Hunter 34. When I showed up
with
a hole saw in a little portable drill, he thought it was funny and I'd
never drill through the hull for the outlet fitting. Boy, was he
shocked...(c;

Larry
--
Halloween candy left over.....
Is there a downside?