What, exactly, is ''blue water friendly'' ?

SBV


"Chi Chi" wrote in message
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Shaun,
I am in the process of buying a 1981 37 foot hunter cutter
rigged but it has
a shoal keel, don't know much about sail boats yet have
only ever had power
boats before. I was told that the early 80's cherubini
design are excellent
quality and design boats, plus the price I'm paying for it
at $25,000.00
with all the accessory's the current seller has added to
make it a more live
aboard comfortable and blue water friendly i don't think I
can wrong with
it. I had the boat surveyed and my surveyor told me the
boat and all the
extra's included make a real good deal and I shouldn't
have any problems
other then a few minor things but that's to be expected He
siad he would
feel comfortable and safe going to the carribean in it as
it sits now so I
think I'm gonna be ok with it. I have heard that the later
80's models had
some problems so You might want to consider only looking
at the early 80's
models.

Hi, Shaun....

I had the chance to sail one of these (1984 model) when I brokered it a
few years ago. I found it pretty well built and felt it was actually
nicer than the Catalina's I've sailed. I also thought it sailed a bit
better than the 1987 Catalina 34 I've sailed. With a good survey and
some work she would probably serve you well.
I expect you've already read all the owner reviews, but joining the
Hunter list is probably a good idea as well.

Good luck,


Robert
35s5
NY

Scotty wrote:
What, exactly, is ''blue water friendly'' ?

SBV


"Chi Chi" wrote in message
t...
Shaun,
I am in the process of buying a 1981 37 foot hunter cutter
rigged but it has
a shoal keel, don't know much about sail boats yet have
only ever had power
boats before. I was told that the early 80's cherubini
design are excellent
quality and design boats, plus the price I'm paying for it
at $25,000.00
with all the accessory's the current seller has added to
make it a more live
aboard comfortable and blue water friendly i don't think I
can wrong with
it. I had the boat surveyed and my surveyor told me the
boat and all the
extra's included make a real good deal and I shouldn't
have any problems
other then a few minor things but that's to be expected He
siad he would
feel comfortable and safe going to the carribean in it as
it sits now so I
think I'm gonna be ok with it. I have heard that the later
80's models had
some problems so You might want to consider only looking
at the early 80's
models.



go to http://www.image-ination.com/sailcalc.html and you'll see the
motion comfort is low compared to similar sized boats and the roll over
ratio isn't the best.
G

go to http://www.image-ination.com/sailcalc.html and you'll see the
motion comfort is low compared to similar sized boats and the roll over

ratio isn't the best.



But then there are J-Boats with even lower comfort/capsize ratios that
are taken offshore with great success. True, the H34 is no full keel
heavy displacement boat, but it's also faster in many situations and
has it's own strengths. There are some folks who have no problem with
the idea of taking a J30 on a long voyage...and others who wouldn't
think of it in anything less than an Alberg 30. Two very different
boats and the J is certainly missing the numbers associated with long
range cruising.
In the end it's up to the sailor.


Robert
35s5
NY

Scotty wrote:

What, exactly, is ''blue water friendly'' ?

SBV

I never mentioned BLUE WATER friendly.....as i said no flames please
and by the way blue water friendly means to me at least a boat that does
not get green over the coach roof in 10 or 12 foot sea's.spray water
runoff and the odd foamer down the deck yes but not green water.

Gordon ! after sailing a rl24 for 3 years in many differant sea's (ocean
and sheltered ) i will think the 34 will seem like a rock to me :-)
32deg 00min 29.56 sec south
115deg 39min 58.66sec east is my play ground

"Chi Chi" wrote in message
t...

Shaun,
I am in the process of buying a 1981 37 foot hunter cutter

rigged but it has

a shoal keel, don't know much about sail boats yet have

only ever had power

boats before. I was told that the early 80's cherubini

design are excellent

quality and design boats, plus the price I'm paying for it

at $25,000.00

with all the accessory's the current seller has added to

make it a more live

aboard comfortable and blue water friendly i don't think I

can wrong with

it. I had the boat surveyed and my surveyor told me the

boat and all the

extra's included make a real good deal and I shouldn't

have any problems

other then a few minor things but that's to be expected He

siad he would

feel comfortable and safe going to the carribean in it as

it sits now so I

think I'm gonna be ok with it. I have heard that the later

80's models had

some problems so You might want to consider only looking

at the early 80's

models.

"shaun" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:

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32deg 00min 29.56 sec south
115deg 39min 58.66sec east is my play ground


right in the middle between Leighton and Rotto.

Have you got a mooring organised for Rotto or going in the ballot?

Good luck in the search!

Hoges in WA

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Hoges in WA wrote:
"shaun" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:


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32deg 00min 29.56 sec south
115deg 39min 58.66sec east is my play ground



right in the middle between Leighton and Rotto.

Have you got a mooring organised for Rotto or going in the ballot?

Good luck in the search!

Hoges in WA

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I tend to keep away during the peak season and never come in b4 7pm
anyhow and due to that allways find a empty public mooring and i am off
the mooring by 6 am. In 12 years of sailing around rotto never been
asked to move on as there is always plenty of empty moorings about.....
very lucky i s'pose
Apart from deck fluff i never like summer at rotto anyhow
Shaun

"shaun" wrote in message
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Hoges in WA wrote:
"shaun" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:


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32deg 00min 29.56 sec south
115deg 39min 58.66sec east is my play ground



right in the middle between Leighton and Rotto.

Have you got a mooring organised for Rotto or going in the ballot?

Good luck in the search!

Hoges in WA

[snipped]
I tend to keep away during the peak season and never come in b4 7pm anyhow
and due to that allways find a empty public mooring and i am off the
mooring by 6 am. In 12 years of sailing around rotto never been asked to
move on as there is always plenty of empty moorings about.....
very lucky i s'pose
Apart from deck fluff i never like summer at rotto anyhow
Shaun


Sounds like good management rather than good luck. What about north-er like
Abrolhos, Monte Bellos etc?

Hoges in WA

Hoges in WA wrote:
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Sounds like good management rather than good luck. What about north-er like
Abrolhos, Monte Bellos etc?

Hoges in WA


To be honest no......not yet but Ningaloo is planned very shortly after
boat gets home..grin
Have spent many weeks (over a few years) fishing/diving camping at
ningaloo 22deg 29min 11.09sec S 113deg 43min 46.30sec E
and have decided that the boat is now the only way i want to do it.
Have spent a little..repeat little time around geraldton :-)
and do like the area...minus the cray pots tho.
you sail Hoges..? or is it still the great wish/dream :-)
(no insult by the way)

"shaun" wrote in message
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Hoges in WA wrote:
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Sounds like good management rather than good luck. What about north-er
like Abrolhos, Monte Bellos etc?

Hoges in WA
To be honest no......not yet but Ningaloo is planned very shortly after
boat gets home..grin
Have spent many weeks (over a few years) fishing/diving camping at
ningaloo 22deg 29min 11.09sec S 113deg 43min 46.30sec E
and have decided that the boat is now the only way i want to do it.
Have spent a little..repeat little time around geraldton :-)
and do like the area...minus the cray pots tho.
you sail Hoges..? or is it still the great wish/dream :-)
(no insult by the way)

sail but no boat......yet.
presently invested, will liquidate the day I need the boat (give or take
etc)

I'm a bit older than you so the retirement plans are falling gently into
place.
With better planning years ago I should have done what you are doing but
wasn't wise enough early enough.
Still, it's almost here now

Hoges in WA