"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:49:11 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"you" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:

One can tap in a cam type piton with another
piton, for example, or one can simply slide it in and the cam action
tightens it into the crack and makes it secure. No hammer necessary.

Those are NOT Pitons, they are Cam Jammers... two totally different
things.... that do similar functions... Duh....



Then why does the website selling them call them pitons?

Wilbur Hubbard


But Willie, you are claiming to be a rock climber in your previous
message and now you are falling back on what a salesman says?

An expert who doesn't know any more then the "sales person' in the
store? What to call such a person? A "Mall Expert"; "Saturday
afternoon shopped Expert"; fool?



Duh! If you sell a product and call it a piton and it is not a piton you can
be sued for misrepresenting the product.

Here is an example you might understand. Company X advertises a sextant for
sale. Somebody orders one and when it arrives it turns out to be an antique
astrolabe. Company X can be sued for misrepresenting the product.

Do you understand my point NOW or must I swab the decks with you some more?

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:35:43 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:49:11 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"you" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:

One can tap in a cam type piton with another
piton, for example, or one can simply slide it in and the cam action
tightens it into the crack and makes it secure. No hammer necessary.

Those are NOT Pitons, they are Cam Jammers... two totally different
things.... that do similar functions... Duh....



Then why does the website selling them call them pitons?

Wilbur Hubbard


But Willie, you are claiming to be a rock climber in your previous
message and now you are falling back on what a salesman says?

An expert who doesn't know any more then the "sales person' in the
store? What to call such a person? A "Mall Expert"; "Saturday
afternoon shopped Expert"; fool?



Duh! If you sell a product and call it a piton and it is not a piton you can
be sued for misrepresenting the product.

Goodness! You call yourself a sailor and probably know about as much
about sailing as that shop assistant knows about climbing a rock.

Here is an example you might understand. Company X advertises a sextant for
sale. Somebody orders one and when it arrives it turns out to be an antique
astrolabe. Company X can be sued for misrepresenting the product.

What about the Expert who's made that epic trip down the bay. To get
away from the big band sound? And anchored out too; all by hisself
too. A rare undertaking.

Do you understand my point NOW or must I swab the decks with you some more?

Wilbur Hubbard


Willie-boy, whatever are you jabbering about. You go on telling them
lies about sailing and I'll just keep telling the truth. Your epic
voyage, perhaps. Way down the bay to the mangrove swamp... and all the
way back... took two days. I reckon you must consider it as a lifetime
achievement since you saw fit to document it, with pictures even.

Cheers,

Bruce

In article s.com,
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:49:11 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"you" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:

One can tap in a cam type piton with another
piton, for example, or one can simply slide it in and the cam action
tightens it into the crack and makes it secure. No hammer necessary.

Those are NOT Pitons, they are Cam Jammers... two totally different
things.... that do similar functions... Duh....



Then why does the website selling them call them pitons?

Wilbur Hubbard


But Willie, you are claiming to be a rock climber in your previous
message and now you are falling back on what a salesman says?

An expert who doesn't know any more then the "sales person' in the
store? What to call such a person? A "Mall Expert"; "Saturday
afternoon shopped Expert"; fool?



Duh! If you sell a product and call it a piton and it is not a piton you can
be sued for misrepresenting the product.

Here is an example you might understand. Company X advertises a sextant for
sale. Somebody orders one and when it arrives it turns out to be an antique
astrolabe. Company X can be sued for misrepresenting the product.

Do you understand my point NOW or must I swab the decks with you some more?

Wilbur Hubbard

Now that is about the poorest excuse for a retort as I have ever run
across... Jeeze Louise, Willie.... Have you ever climbed anything higher
than a step ladder....

On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:06:57 -0900, you wrote:

In article s.com,
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:49:11 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"you" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:

One can tap in a cam type piton with another
piton, for example, or one can simply slide it in and the cam action
tightens it into the crack and makes it secure. No hammer necessary.

Those are NOT Pitons, they are Cam Jammers... two totally different
things.... that do similar functions... Duh....



Then why does the website selling them call them pitons?

Wilbur Hubbard


But Willie, you are claiming to be a rock climber in your previous
message and now you are falling back on what a salesman says?

An expert who doesn't know any more then the "sales person' in the
store? What to call such a person? A "Mall Expert"; "Saturday
afternoon shopped Expert"; fool?



Duh! If you sell a product and call it a piton and it is not a piton you can
be sued for misrepresenting the product.

Here is an example you might understand. Company X advertises a sextant for
sale. Somebody orders one and when it arrives it turns out to be an antique
astrolabe. Company X can be sued for misrepresenting the product.

Do you understand my point NOW or must I swab the decks with you some more?

Wilbur Hubbard

Now that is about the poorest excuse for a retort as I have ever run
across... Jeeze Louise, Willie.... Have you ever climbed anything higher
than a step ladder....

But I'll bet he soloed it :-)

Cheers,

Bruce