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Wilbur = Greg = Capt. Neal. That's common knowledge. I am no "spoofer".
Just
have a couple different NSP accounts in case one or the other goes on the
blink.

Wilbur Hubbard


Oh... ok. So, you're a Captain? That's cool. So, should I call you
Neal or Wil... sort of like Wil, but it's your name.



I even have a USCG Masters license. But, I let it expire last year because
the Big Brother bureaucrats decided it was no good without their dumb "TWIC"
card. (Transportation Workers ID card). They wanted me to jump through their
hoops and get finger printed and photographed again and stand in line at one
of their centers for half a day and pay them a hundred bucks more while they
processed forms etc. that were nothing but a duplicate of the forms they had
me fill out when getting the captain's license. What a joke! Make licensed
captains bear the brunt of their terrorist delusions while they ignore open
borders. They can shove their big brother crap against law-abiding citizens
(while they ignore the real terrorists) right up where the sun don't shine.


Whoa... you're a captain? That's so cool! That says a lot about you...
you have to pass all sorts of background checks if it's anything like
getting even a local government job like mine.

I don't get what's going on with the government... all this money
coming in, and the whole infrastructure seems to be falling apart. I
don't mind a few rules, but come on. Especially when it comes to
paperwork. You've already been through the checks, you've already
passed your exam (or whatever), so give the individual a break
already.

So, you can call me whatever you like. Whatever floats your boat, Jessica.
If I post using Wilbur Hubbard then Wil is just fine. Captain is good to
remind my many detractors of my status. Sweetheart would be good, too. LOL!


I like Captain.. as you say if it's nothing more than to annoy some
people. heh

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Whoa... you're a captain? That's so cool! That says a lot about you...
you have to pass all sorts of background checks if it's anything like
getting even a local government job like mine.



Thanks, I have an excellent security background having had a Top Secret
clearance for security work as a military policeman in the U.S. Army This
is why I am highly insulted being subjected to a government bureaucrat, dog
and pony, jump-through-the-hoops show. This is why I just said, NO! I've
never been arrested for anything. Never even had a speeding ticket. I can
even produce a valid birth certificate. Few, if any of the people who would
have me jump through hoops can claim the same. And, this in the name of
anti-terrorism, which is as much as accusing ME of being a terrorist threat,
while the government ignores actual terrorists and cries and agitates for
releasing them from Guantanamo Bay. Ludicrous!

Yes, and don't listen to Bruce, stuck at the Bangkok dock. He's just envious
of my greater qualifications. I qualified for and was duly issued a USCG,
Master of Steam or Motor Vessels of not more than 25 gross tons upon near
coastal waters; also operator of uninspected passenger vessels as defined in
46 U.S.C. 2101 (42) upon near coastal waters not to exceed 100 miles
offshore, which is way more than Brucie-Poo ever accomplished. Don't be
fooled by those envious people like Joe who claim that near coastal is less
than open ocean for everybody knows near coastal is where the hazardous
sailing takes place. Open ocean is a joke and the realm of autopilots.


I don't get what's going on with the government... all this money
coming in, and the whole infrastructure seems to be falling apart. I
don't mind a few rules, but come on. Especially when it comes to
paperwork. You've already been through the checks, you've already
passed your exam (or whatever), so give the individual a break
already.



Job security for govt. pencil pushers! (no offense, not meaning you because
you actually get out of the office and do productive work).

I like Captain.. as you say if it's nothing more than to annoy some
people. heh



A most wise and excellent choice, my dear.


Wilbur Hubbard


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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:28:18 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Whoa... you're a captain? That's so cool! That says a lot about you...
you have to pass all sorts of background checks if it's anything like
getting even a local government job like mine.



Thanks, I have an excellent security background having had a Top Secret
clearance for security work as a military policeman in the U.S. Army This
is why I am highly insulted being subjected to a government bureaucrat, dog
and pony, jump-through-the-hoops show. This is why I just said, NO! I've
never been arrested for anything. Never even had a speeding ticket. I can
even produce a valid birth certificate. Few, if any of the people who would
have me jump through hoops can claim the same. And, this in the name of
anti-terrorism, which is as much as accusing ME of being a terrorist threat,
while the government ignores actual terrorists and cries and agitates for
releasing them from Guantanamo Bay. Ludicrous!

Yes, and don't listen to Bruce, stuck at the Bangkok dock. He's just envious
of my greater qualifications. I qualified for and was duly issued a USCG,
Master of Steam or Motor Vessels of not more than 25 gross tons upon near
coastal waters; also operator of uninspected passenger vessels as defined in
46 U.S.C. 2101 (42) upon near coastal waters not to exceed 100 miles
offshore, which is way more than Brucie-Poo ever accomplished. Don't be
fooled by those envious people like Joe who claim that near coastal is less
than open ocean for everybody knows near coastal is where the hazardous
sailing takes place. Open ocean is a joke and the realm of autopilots.


That's where the rocks are... So, if you stay away from the rocks,
then you have one less thing to worry about I guess. Every story my
friend tells of mishap is in and around the marina or surrounding
area.


I don't get what's going on with the government... all this money
coming in, and the whole infrastructure seems to be falling apart. I
don't mind a few rules, but come on. Especially when it comes to
paperwork. You've already been through the checks, you've already
passed your exam (or whatever), so give the individual a break
already.



Job security for govt. pencil pushers! (no offense, not meaning you because
you actually get out of the office and do productive work).


Thanks! I have to write up stuff, but it's from actionable items...
red-flags, resolutions, follow-up recommendations. I'm sick of all the
money that seems to be frittered away on endlessly studying the mating
habits of magpies or whatever.

I like Captain.. as you say if it's nothing more than to annoy some
people. heh



A most wise and excellent choice, my dear.


Wilbur Hubbard

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:28:18 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
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Whoa... you're a captain? That's so cool! That says a lot about you...
you have to pass all sorts of background checks if it's anything like
getting even a local government job like mine.



Thanks, I have an excellent security background having had a Top Secret
clearance for security work as a military policeman in the U.S. Army This
is why I am highly insulted being subjected to a government bureaucrat,
dog
and pony, jump-through-the-hoops show. This is why I just said, NO! I've
never been arrested for anything. Never even had a speeding ticket. I can
even produce a valid birth certificate. Few, if any of the people who
would
have me jump through hoops can claim the same. And, this in the name of
anti-terrorism, which is as much as accusing ME of being a terrorist
threat,
while the government ignores actual terrorists and cries and agitates for
releasing them from Guantanamo Bay. Ludicrous!

Yes, and don't listen to Bruce, stuck at the Bangkok dock. He's just
envious
of my greater qualifications. I qualified for and was duly issued a USCG,
Master of Steam or Motor Vessels of not more than 25 gross tons upon near
coastal waters; also operator of uninspected passenger vessels as defined
in
46 U.S.C. 2101 (42) upon near coastal waters not to exceed 100 miles
offshore, which is way more than Brucie-Poo ever accomplished. Don't be
fooled by those envious people like Joe who claim that near coastal is
less
than open ocean for everybody knows near coastal is where the hazardous
sailing takes place. Open ocean is a joke and the realm of autopilots.


That's where the rocks are... So, if you stay away from the rocks,
then you have one less thing to worry about I guess. Every story my
friend tells of mishap is in and around the marina or surrounding
area.


Yes, they say it's usually not the water that puts a boat in jeopardy but
rather the hard stuff around the edges. LOL! Any old fool can pilot a boat
in the open ocean. Heck, there's nothing out there to hit. Many big ships
put the damned things of autopilot and nobody is even keeping a lookout when
on the open ocean and this is the so-called shipping lanes where there IS
some little traffic, at least. Goes to show you have to try pretty hard to
have a collision out there. So, when some pretend sailor makes light of a
near coastal license it just demonstrates a lack of understanding of where
the real challenges are and where it takes real knowledge to cope.




I don't get what's going on with the government... all this money
coming in, and the whole infrastructure seems to be falling apart. I
don't mind a few rules, but come on. Especially when it comes to
paperwork. You've already been through the checks, you've already
passed your exam (or whatever), so give the individual a break
already.



Job security for govt. pencil pushers! (no offense, not meaning you
because
you actually get out of the office and do productive work).


Thanks! I have to write up stuff, but it's from actionable items...
red-flags, resolutions, follow-up recommendations. I'm sick of all the
money that seems to be frittered away on endlessly studying the mating
habits of magpies or whatever.



Has anybody ever offered you a bribe to look the other way on something?



Wilbur Hubbard


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On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:44:37 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:28:18 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
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Whoa... you're a captain? That's so cool! That says a lot about you...
you have to pass all sorts of background checks if it's anything like
getting even a local government job like mine.


Thanks, I have an excellent security background having had a Top Secret
clearance for security work as a military policeman in the U.S. Army This
is why I am highly insulted being subjected to a government bureaucrat,
dog
and pony, jump-through-the-hoops show. This is why I just said, NO! I've
never been arrested for anything. Never even had a speeding ticket. I can
even produce a valid birth certificate. Few, if any of the people who
would
have me jump through hoops can claim the same. And, this in the name of
anti-terrorism, which is as much as accusing ME of being a terrorist
threat,
while the government ignores actual terrorists and cries and agitates for
releasing them from Guantanamo Bay. Ludicrous!

Yes, and don't listen to Bruce, stuck at the Bangkok dock. He's just
envious
of my greater qualifications. I qualified for and was duly issued a USCG,
Master of Steam or Motor Vessels of not more than 25 gross tons upon near
coastal waters; also operator of uninspected passenger vessels as defined
in
46 U.S.C. 2101 (42) upon near coastal waters not to exceed 100 miles
offshore, which is way more than Brucie-Poo ever accomplished. Don't be
fooled by those envious people like Joe who claim that near coastal is
less
than open ocean for everybody knows near coastal is where the hazardous
sailing takes place. Open ocean is a joke and the realm of autopilots.


That's where the rocks are... So, if you stay away from the rocks,
then you have one less thing to worry about I guess. Every story my
friend tells of mishap is in and around the marina or surrounding
area.


Yes, they say it's usually not the water that puts a boat in jeopardy but
rather the hard stuff around the edges. LOL! Any old fool can pilot a boat
in the open ocean. Heck, there's nothing out there to hit. Many big ships
put the damned things of autopilot and nobody is even keeping a lookout when
on the open ocean and this is the so-called shipping lanes where there IS
some little traffic, at least. Goes to show you have to try pretty hard to
have a collision out there. So, when some pretend sailor makes light of a
near coastal license it just demonstrates a lack of understanding of where
the real challenges are and where it takes real knowledge to cope.




I don't get what's going on with the government... all this money
coming in, and the whole infrastructure seems to be falling apart. I
don't mind a few rules, but come on. Especially when it comes to
paperwork. You've already been through the checks, you've already
passed your exam (or whatever), so give the individual a break
already.


Job security for govt. pencil pushers! (no offense, not meaning you
because
you actually get out of the office and do productive work).


Thanks! I have to write up stuff, but it's from actionable items...
red-flags, resolutions, follow-up recommendations. I'm sick of all the
money that seems to be frittered away on endlessly studying the mating
habits of magpies or whatever.



Has anybody ever offered you a bribe to look the other way on something?


I've been offered a bribe just once. He was actually a nice guy, and I
said I really couldn't accept it because it would put my job and his
life in jeopardy. The situation was that some moron installed a
furnace so poorly in his house that the burners weren't getting enough
air (it's almost always a ducting issue), which meant they were
sucking air from the house and the gas wasn't being burned
efficiently... a good way to get asphyxiated. In addition to
red-flagging it, I had to turn off the gas to it. So, he was trying to
get me to leave it on. No go on that, but I showed him how to turn the
gas to it back on sort of in a sly way.

I said, "Hey, here's what I have to do. This shuts off the gas. (I
shut it off.) It's just a hand valve that's 90 to the pipe when it's
off. You'll notice that when I turn it on (I turn it on) by putting it
in line with the pipe, the pilot lights automatically after a few
seconds after the thermostat kicks in. I don't recommend you turn it
on. It's dangerous. I strongly recommend you leave a window open
unless you want to wake up dead." I mentioned a couple of reputable
companies, then, I left. :-)

I did get asked out a few times, but only accepted one time. He was
nice, but it just didn't work out.


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On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:44:37 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Has anybody ever offered you a bribe to look the other way on something?


I've been offered a bribe just once. He was actually a nice guy, and I
said I really couldn't accept it because it would put my job and his
life in jeopardy. The situation was that some moron installed a
furnace so poorly in his house that the burners weren't getting enough
air (it's almost always a ducting issue), which meant they were
sucking air from the house and the gas wasn't being burned
efficiently... a good way to get asphyxiated. In addition to
red-flagging it, I had to turn off the gas to it. So, he was trying to
get me to leave it on. No go on that, but I showed him how to turn the
gas to it back on sort of in a sly way.

I said, "Hey, here's what I have to do. This shuts off the gas. (I
shut it off.) It's just a hand valve that's 90 to the pipe when it's
off. You'll notice that when I turn it on (I turn it on) by putting it
in line with the pipe, the pilot lights automatically after a few
seconds after the thermostat kicks in. I don't recommend you turn it
on. It's dangerous. I strongly recommend you leave a window open
unless you want to wake up dead." I mentioned a couple of reputable
companies, then, I left. :-)


I sure hope he didn't wake up dead. LOL!


I did get asked out a few times, but only accepted one time. He was
nice, but it just didn't work out.


:-( Poor thang! But, I'm sure you get LOTS of chances.


Wilbur Hubbard



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Oh... ok. So, you're a Captain? That's cool. So, should I call you
Neal or Wil... sort of like Wil, but it's your name.


I even have a USCG Masters license. But, I let it expire last year because
the Big Brother bureaucrats decided it was no good without their dumb "TWIC"
card. (Transportation Workers ID card). They wanted me to jump through their
hoops and get finger printed and photographed again and stand in line at one
of their centers for half a day and pay them a hundred bucks more while they
processed forms etc. that were nothing but a duplicate of the forms they had
me fill out when getting the captain's license. *What a joke!



What wilbur is saying is that he has a 25 GRT Master most likely
INLAND. This means that ALL of his credible Sea Service was on vessels
15 GRT. One day over 15 GRT would get Willbur a 50 GRT Master.

Its a rather easy test. The problme that WIlbur is ranting about to
provide a smoke screen for his lack of credible tonnage is now the
USCG and TSA (TWIC) require a significant background check. If you
have a DUI or "other" events that may place you in a security risk
catigory and scuttle your Captiains license. Heck, there are even new
and increased HEALTH requirments that list drugs such as high blood
preasure and others which will deny a renewal. Oh, there are also body
mass index (BMI) requirmenst. In other words., those fat ass coonasses
down south may get denied a renewal cause their so fat.

Whoa... you're a captain? That's so cool! That says a lot about you...


See above.

you have to pass all sorts of background checks if it's anything like
getting even a local government job like mine.



And I support increased requirments completely. It time to keep the
drug users and fat asses off the water.


I don't get what's going on with the government... all this money
coming in, and the whole infrastructure seems to be falling apart. I
don't mind a few rules, but come on. Especially when it comes to
paperwork. You've already been through the checks, you've already
passed your exam (or whatever), so give the individual a break
already.



Its real simple. I get my 200 GRT Master NC/1600 Mate Near Coast and
all is well. a few years later im so obease I cant get up a ladder, my
blood preasure is so high Id blow, im an alcoholic etc... in other
words Im not fit for duty.

I say make the rules MORE strict!

so why are you republicans so anti rules yet when it comes to taking
my privacy away you guys ralley in the streets ?

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Wilbur Hubbard


Oh... ok. So, you're a Captain? That's cool. So, should I call you
Neal or Wil... sort of like Wil, but it's your name.


I even have a USCG Masters license. But, I let it expire last year because
the Big Brother bureaucrats decided it was no good without their dumb "TWIC"
card. (Transportation Workers ID card). They wanted me to jump through their
hoops and get finger printed and photographed again and stand in line at one
of their centers for half a day and pay them a hundred bucks more while they
processed forms etc. that were nothing but a duplicate of the forms they had
me fill out when getting the captain's license. *What a joke!



What wilbur is saying is that he has a 25 GRT Master most likely
INLAND. This means that ALL of his credible Sea Service was on vessels
15 GRT. One day over 15 GRT would get Willbur a 50 GRT Master.

Its a rather easy test. The problme that WIlbur is ranting about to
provide a smoke screen for his lack of credible tonnage is now the
USCG and TSA (TWIC) require a significant background check. If you
have a DUI or "other" events that may place you in a security risk
catigory and scuttle your Captiains license. Heck, there are even new
and increased HEALTH requirments that list drugs such as high blood
preasure and others which will deny a renewal. Oh, there are also body
mass index (BMI) requirmenst. In other words., those fat ass coonasses
down south may get denied a renewal cause their so fat.

Whoa... you're a captain? That's so cool! That says a lot about you...


See above.


So I take it that you have such a license? It might be easy for you...
the test... but not for most people I bet!


you have to pass all sorts of background checks if it's anything like
getting even a local government job like mine.



And I support increased requirments completely. It time to keep the
drug users and fat asses off the water.


Somehow I don't get the impression that Capt. Wil is either a drug
user or a fat ass.

I don't get what's going on with the government... all this money
coming in, and the whole infrastructure seems to be falling apart. I
don't mind a few rules, but come on. Especially when it comes to
paperwork. You've already been through the checks, you've already
passed your exam (or whatever), so give the individual a break
already.



Its real simple. I get my 200 GRT Master NC/1600 Mate Near Coast and
all is well. a few years later im so obease I cant get up a ladder, my
blood preasure is so high Id blow, im an alcoholic etc... in other
words Im not fit for duty.

I say make the rules MORE strict!

so why are you republicans so anti rules yet when it comes to taking
my privacy away you guys ralley in the streets ?


Hey, I'm not anti-rules. I just want rules that make sense! If you're
in charge of a boat with people, I think having to take a drug test or
whatever is probably reasonable. But, is it reasonable to have to go
through yet another background check? I have to be bonded for my job,
so if I want a door-to-door solicitor permit, should I have to go
through all that background nonsense again? (Not that I want to do
that, that's a requirement here.) Why do they charge $100 for that
card ..TIWC? Seems like it's kind of over the top. What does it get
you? What's wrong with a passport? Just seems like lots of stupid
rules (I know, because I'm responsible for enforcing rules) for little
purpose (the ones I enforce are mostly common-sense).
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 14:30:04 -0800, Jessica B
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Why do they charge $100 for that
card ..TIWC? Seems like it's kind of over the top. What does it get
you?


It gets you a fancy ID card that has all of your biometric data,
including fingerprints, encoded on to an internal chip. All people
involved in public transportation are now required to have one.

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:05:11 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 14:30:04 -0800, Jessica B
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Why do they charge $100 for that
card ..TIWC? Seems like it's kind of over the top. What does it get
you?


It gets you a fancy ID card that has all of your biometric data,
including fingerprints, encoded on to an internal chip. All people
involved in public transportation are now required to have one.


Sounds like it gets the government a whole lot more than they need for
people who take a few people sailing. I guess I could see it for a
tanker or a ferry or something. I really wouldn't want all that info
on a chip.


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