Scotty wrote:
:: I assume some ISPs have different TOS (lines to
:: cross).
:
:
: "Yes, but the abuse@ address is not the newsgroup babysitter. "
:
:
: And neither is a bunch of ''flonkers''.
:
: Why burn down the house to kill a few ants?

dude, there -is- no burning yet, this is just a minor incursion so far. more
of a protest than a full-scale attack.
to use your insect analogy, sometimes infestations of cockroaches by pest
control people need the entire house to be fumigated.
I'm sincerely hoping it won't come to that; only you regulars have the
ability to persuade the culprits to behave and apologise.
:
: Scotty

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

You know my motto: Forgive and uh... the other thing.
================================================== ====================
My suggestion is to completely ignore idiots like Leland. They are the
lowest form of pond scum. People like him have tried unsuccessfully in
the past to disrupt the newsgroup. The best medicine is to completely
ignore them. As I'm sure you'll see, they're most intelligent response
is to yell nasty names. Other than that, they have nothing.

jg, netKKKop, alt.sailing.asa
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, netKKKop, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS."

miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying."

projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow

This thread has really taken off and I'm behind. I'll just hit a couple of
highlights that have also been touched on by others.

Wally wrote:
Soque (Enjoque) Pupette wrote:

[...discussion about TOS/violations...]

It seems to me that, complaints about supposed TOS transgressions can go one
of two ways...

If they're upheld, then the transgressor got what they deserved,

[...]

If they aren't upheld, then there was no transgression,

[...]

There is a third consideration, and it's the injustice I've referred
to.

It's when complaints are used as a weapon in a flamewar.

Multiple exaggerated complaints -- sometimes with help from others
in the group -- are sent to a provider and that provider caves in.
Many providers are wise to this game and won't take sides; sadly,
sometimes it works.

Then they brag about it. Then others get the idea that it works.
Then, since it works, it's used more. They scream "Forgery! Libel!
Spam! Spam! Spam!" in an effort to do away with the folks they
don't like on the other side of the flamewar. When, in reality,
the only offense has been insult, ridicule and parody.

That's the 'rogue netcopping'. That's the injustice. That's what
pushes my buttons enough to motivate me to say something.



... thereby quelling the need for a loud and boisterous protest of
those injustices. If they don't, they're complicit in the injustice by
allowing it to fester.
[...]

I don't subscribe to the view that not taking a stand means that those on
the sidelines are suddenly complicit.
[...]

Even though I disagree, I'll grant that it's your choice to stay
uninvolved even when something bad is happening.

But, I'm going to throw my 2 cents in. I'm going to say something
about it and I may (or may not) choose to use insult, ridicule,
and/or parody to deliver my point.

--
,,,
..oo
c
- Soque

--
,,,
..oo
c
- Soque

Scotty wrote:
: WTF are you talking to? fred and Steve aren't gonna like the fact
: that you didn't 'attribute' and mark as such, your reply. They may
: even report you.
:
: Stand by.

film at eleven: *flonkers* don't netKKKop.
not even top-poasting ****wits who don't attribute quotes. we just laugh at
them.
:
: SV
:
:
: "purgecontrol" wrote in message
: oups.com...
:: Your risk of accusation is more like a verification of fact.

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

A foolproof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block
of marble, then you chip away everything that doesn't look like an
elephant.
================================================== ====================
My suggestion is to completely ignore idiots like Leland. They are the
lowest form of pond scum. People like him have tried unsuccessfully in
the past to disrupt the newsgroup. The best medicine is to completely
ignore them. As I'm sure you'll see, they're most intelligent response
is to yell nasty names. Other than that, they have nothing.

jg, netKKKop, alt.sailing.asa
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, netKKKop, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS."

miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying."

projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow

Joe wrote:
: He's bull****tin ya Scotty.
:
: Neal ****ed off because Katy called his new squeeze a ho.
:
: They two girls called each other names in a hissy fit rage.
:
: Neal wanting to keep getting laid took up and lead the charge to
: defends his new lovers honor by trashing Katy.
:
: Katy felt Neal crossed the line when he forged (ie frogged whatever)
: her name and email address so she turned him in and he lost his soon
: to expire freebee.
:
: The gay ones always been a snitch..it's in has nature he's a momma
: boy.
:
: So Neal invites the internets top retards to babble like mindless
: locust a cast a plaque upon ASA.

just for the record, neal didn't invite me or any other "top retards" as you
call us.
frivolous and abusive netKKKopping will always attract attention from those
of us who would prefer usenet to be free for all to speak their minds.
if that makes me a retard, then I strongly suggest you examine your morals,
joe.
:
: You gotta quit working so much Scotty, your missing the really good
: ****!
:
: Joe

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

People who say, 'Never give up' can never accept the inevitable.
================================================== ====================
My suggestion is to completely ignore idiots like Leland. They are the
lowest form of pond scum. People like him have tried unsuccessfully in
the past to disrupt the newsgroup. The best medicine is to completely
ignore them. As I'm sure you'll see, they're most intelligent response
is to yell nasty names. Other than that, they have nothing.

jg, netKKKop, alt.sailing.asa
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, netKKKop, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS."

miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying."

projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
It's not for me to say what's right or wrong (though my wife does call
me god some nights).

She calls me 'god of gods' every night you are out of town.

--
Captain Lon

"Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson


"Scotty" wrote in message
...
It's not for me to say what's right or wrong (though my wife does call
me god some nights).

I'm simply stating for the record that I support Katy and I don't like
'The Gay One'.

Scotty


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
For the record; I support Katy. Gaynz was wrong, is a dork, and
deserves whatever he gets.

Scotty



Given the fact that Ganz is, indeed, a dork and is wrong and a loser
to boot,
just curious why it's wrong when Ganz does it but OK when Haight
does it?

CN

Whew! That's a relief.

S

"""""film at eleven: *flonkers* don't netKKKop.
not even top-poasting ****wits who don't attribute quotes. we just
laugh at
them. """""

"Captain Lon" wrote in message
news:K078e.33838$qO6.10908@trnddc05...
"Scotty" wrote in message
...
It's not for me to say what's right or wrong (though my wife does
call
me god some nights).

She calls me 'god of gods' every night you are out of town.


That's you? STOP DRINKING MY RUM !!!!!!!!!!!!

SV

I look at it this way. Playground analogy; neal's the dorky little
brat with ADD and doesn't take his Ritilin like he should. He runs
around the playground pestering the other kids and calling them names.
Most of us ignore him, or smack him up side his head and tell him to
get lost. However, he has a big crush on the cute little girl, Katy.
He pesters her relentlessly. Us bigger kids tell him to bugger off,
but he persists. She tries to ignore him, which only makes it worse.
She moves from one corner of the playground to another. neal follows
her everywhere. Finally she's had enough and tells the teacher.
Teacher scolds neal. neal blames Katy. The rest of us laugh at him
and figure he got his just desserts.

Scotty





"Capt. Leyland" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
: For the record; I support Katy. Gaynz was wrong, is a dork, and
: deserves whatever he gets.

a good start. as a group you should make it very clear to him that
his
frivolous netKKKopping behaviour is no longer welcome here. do it
privately
via email or whatever, but just do it.
however katy is equally as guilty, perhaps even more so as she has
been
discovered to have been sending frivolous and unfounded abuse
reports from
multiple addresses, which in itself would qualify as net abuse.
:
: Scotty

Liar...

Go ahead.... make some more annoying usless mindless, retarded noise.

Your as threating and annoying as a nat.

Do not do anything but annoy the **** out of people. Infact you spread
so much stench I bet your setting in a soiled diaper right now cat boy.

joe

Wally, it's just not worth trying to pin Neal down on anything. He's a known
liar and a known thief by his *own* words. And, he has claimed to be a
netcop also by his own words. He's a sad case. He lives on his boat to which
he devotes an enormous amount of energy, probably because he has no other
life. He's quite pathetic really. The best thing you can do for him is to
ignore him, since every time someone responds to him, it fuels his
personality disorder.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Wally" wrote in message
. uk...
Capt. Neal® wrote:


all Neal's crap deleted