Well, they're cheating somebody.


"JG" wrote in message
...
I agree, but a very large number are in that situation because of
family
problems, such as illness or death of a spouse or child/parent. Most
are not
cheating the system.

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"Scout" wrote in message
...
No they don't. What they do is offer the card at a lower rate and
then let
it crawl like ivy up a wall.
And by the way, I'm all for making bankruptcy more difficult for
fools in
debt. Why should we all pay for their lack of discipline. Wouldn't
Neal be
surprised.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote ...
What it means is that people who can scrape together two
nickels to save will get 1.5% interest while credit card
companies
rape
people for 20% (check out Citi-Bank's earnings and policies).

Rape? Anybody that uses a CC deserves what they get charged.
it's not
like they hide the int. rates.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote

It is true
that in some cases, teachers need to retire or be fired.

and the same can be said for a lot of 'management positions in private
ind. as well as the typical goof off union protected laborer.



I'm more surprised by the endless demands placed on teachers.
Perhaps they
should be reduced if salaries and benes are reduced.

NO! We should raise their salaries and benes.!


And; perhaps parents should be held accountable for the study habits
and
extra-curricular activities of their children.


Now you're talking just plain crazy. ;o



Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message


I like when I play with your chicken???? MMMWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA




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No they're not. They've been involved in situations beyond their control.
Cheating implies some nefarious act.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Well, they're cheating somebody.


"JG" wrote in message
...
I agree, but a very large number are in that situation because of
family
problems, such as illness or death of a spouse or child/parent. Most
are not
cheating the system.

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www.sailnow.com

"Scout" wrote in message
...
No they don't. What they do is offer the card at a lower rate and
then let
it crawl like ivy up a wall.
And by the way, I'm all for making bankruptcy more difficult for
fools in
debt. Why should we all pay for their lack of discipline. Wouldn't
Neal be
surprised.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote ...
What it means is that people who can scrape together two
nickels to save will get 1.5% interest while credit card
companies
rape
people for 20% (check out Citi-Bank's earnings and policies).

Rape? Anybody that uses a CC deserves what they get charged.
it's not
like they hide the int. rates.

Scotty

What's the opposite of "persoanl bankruptcy"??? Corporate? Like Enron? Seems
to me that the individual is more important than the corporation.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I heard they're trying to make 'personal bankruptcy harder to do.
It's a start.

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
...
No they don't. What they do is offer the card at a lower rate and
then let
it crawl like ivy up a wall.
And by the way, I'm all for making bankruptcy more difficult for
fools in
debt. Why should we all pay for their lack of discipline. Wouldn't
Neal be
surprised.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote ...
What it means is that people who can scrape together two
nickels to save will get 1.5% interest while credit card
companies
rape
people for 20% (check out Citi-Bank's earnings and policies).

Rape? Anybody that uses a CC deserves what they get charged. it's
not
like they hide the int. rates.

Scotty

"JG" wrote in message

I agree. For example, it's not condoned to play with chickens, which is
what you do!

Oh dear me...... why? I've hatched most of the flock myself and hand
reared them. The "girls" are tame and enjoy perching on my shoulder or arm
when I'm tending to the chook chores. The Rooster is a beautiful specimen of
Barred Rock with golden hackles. He keeps the girls in line and makes
certain they all return to the pen at the end of the day. I have fresh eggs
daily and every spring I purchase 2 dozen meat birds to raise for the winter
meat supply.

I also have a pet goose which answers to it's name and behaves much like a
dog.... following me around the farm. She loves to have her neck scratched
and keeps those thieving raccoons and weasels away from the chook coop.

CM

Yeah, we can tell you're really fond of playing with farm animals.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"JG" wrote in message

I agree. For example, it's not condoned to play with chickens, which is
what you do!

Oh dear me...... why? I've hatched most of the flock myself and hand
reared them. The "girls" are tame and enjoy perching on my shoulder or arm
when I'm tending to the chook chores. The Rooster is a beautiful specimen
of Barred Rock with golden hackles. He keeps the girls in line and makes
certain they all return to the pen at the end of the day. I have fresh
eggs daily and every spring I purchase 2 dozen meat birds to raise for the
winter meat supply.

I also have a pet goose which answers to it's name and behaves much like a
dog.... following me around the farm. She loves to have her neck
scratched and keeps those thieving raccoons and weasels away from the
chook coop.

CM

As opposed to most other areas, where you know little or nothing.....

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"Dave" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:21:54 GMT, "Scout" said:

What it means is young people must wait for their parents to die to get
their first home.

More nonsense. Simple fact is that the percentage of Americans owning
their
own homes continues to steadily increase. This is an area I know something
about as my wife is a real estate broker. The average age of first time
buyers also continues to decline.

Where are you getting these "facts"?

I know, but I made three trips with the trailer today (moving) and I'm punch
drunk.
We haven't found a house yet, but ours sold in 13 days so we have to get
out. We taking a townhouse with a 3 month lease until we can find a suitable
place.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote
Now you're talking just plain crazy. ;o

CM,
I don't know what your experience is with unions. But I do know what I've
been through, and my father, and his father. Your points are made
eloquently, but do not mesh with what I know to be truth. Perhaps things are
different in Canada, or in Philadelphia.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message

Very good. And because they had that day, hired goons no longer show up
and split your head open with a baseball bat for wanting a fair share of
the profits of a company's efforts. Had you seen that, you might be glad
to have a brother close by. These heavy handed "negotiations" made bar
room fights look like a day at the beach.

Not really a viable example Scout... since there are many things in
society that are no longer condoned and that had nothing to do with union
activity.


It's all very well and good to espouse a philosophy that worked in the
day of the agrarian citizen, but the sheer number of people in the modern
workforce demands different rules. Hobbes would have agreed with me.
People are inherently greedy; generally speaking they are pricks. ASA
provides all the evidence one needs to believe that is true. Government
and big business are one and the same, and together they are still the
Leviathan. Mutually beneficial contracts are needed today more than ever.
God bless a nation where a guy like Scotty can make the offer of "take it
or shove it." He can do so only because others have paid the cost, and
continue to pay the price, for that privilege.

Our ancestors have collectively paid the price to have us achieve our
current freedoms and society... this in no way suggests that methods
acceptable even 50 years ago are legitimate today. Your statement on the
general tendencies of people seem to illustrate a rather negative view of
society in general. I do not find the people posting to ASA as pricks at
all.... [Except for Gaynzy who is an annoying little homo].... their
posturing and statements are a fine tool with which to hone my abilities
to defend a position. Considering the anonymity provided by this
medium... it's a wonder the verbal engagements are not far worse. In
effect we self police.

In regards to Scotty's ability to establish his rate of pay... this has
been available for as long as we have existed and is not the result of
union activity. If you provide a service or commodity that is superior to
others in the same field.... you have the right to charge what the
consumer will bear.

CM