Well now Mooron... you're neither a man nor a mouse. You're certainly a
chicken-loving WIMP!!

Bwahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:xwMYd.23933$ZO2.21646@edtnps84...

"JG" wrote in message
...
I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert one's
rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you are just
plain stupid.

Well now Gaynzy... you're neither aggressive nor assertive... you're just
an annoying, whining little homo! Your incapacity of emulating any
masculine traits is positive proof that you are a limp wristed, lisping
queer! Your tendency to effeminate behaviour has no doubt been the root
cause of the abuse you've suffered throughout life.

Now why don't you return to memorizing the Vagina Monologues and reapply
more Preparation H while awaiting your next caller....

CM

You're wrong....there are people that specialize in training the meek to be
assertive...these people have not got an aggressive bone in their bodies and
get walked over....with assertiveness training, they are able to start
fending for themselves...has nothing to do with aggression and everything to
do with survival....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84...
Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive
attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom of
an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not have to
involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to comprehend this
because as a female you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas
aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment
lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions and
then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain their goals
in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or continue to
rise....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89...
I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make erroneous
assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average male...
aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive nature is not
required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few women in a
position of power show an extremely heightened sense of aggressiveness
and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to do with it.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as anything
other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it worked for
cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived in but the idea
of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in an enlightened
society is an anachronism...


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84...
NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and assertiveness....
which is understandable. I will repeat myself despite the fact I know
you are not capable of understanding the logic..... You cannot be
assertive without being aggressive.

Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that aggression
requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression between males
has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be comprehended by
females. The level of aggressive behaviour is dependant on the
situation. This is comprehended by even the youngest of our gender.

CM



CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in the
ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the ground.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84...
You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of
asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your
subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This situation
is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral indifference.

CM


"katysails" wrote in message
...
I am assertive....not aggressive....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90...
Aggression need not be physical....

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the boots,
chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89...
You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take your
own advise.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal instinct
and start using the tools that were given you to negotiate and
walk away from aggression?

Oh no... they have a cedar shingled 8'x12' Chook House, windows, lights,
heat with an enclosed 12'x12' pen that has a metal roof. The lighting is on
a timer and a 6 CD player is installed. A dust vent system and exhaust fan
control air quality. The "girls" live a good life and enjoy their stay well
beyond their productive span to die of old age. Any chicken would give it's
eye teeth to stay there.

By the way... you are aware I don't live in the Arctic anymore aren't you?
You do know where Nova Scotia is don't you?

CM


"JG" wrote in message
...
Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh wait...
I forgot, they live in your house.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84...
Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a nice
vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84...

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout"
said:

But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape
together 20% of $500K for a down payment.

Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to
scrape
together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to
first
base. The coop board will turn them down.

Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth
$500K??
Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this way!
$50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out
buildings......

CM

Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not that
I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so important to
you...


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:xwMYd.23933$ZO2.21646@edtnps84...

"JG" wrote in message
...
I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert one's
rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you are just
plain stupid.

Well now Gaynzy... you're neither aggressive nor assertive... you're just
an annoying, whining little homo! Your incapacity of emulating any
masculine traits is positive proof that you are a limp wristed, lisping
queer! Your tendency to effeminate behaviour has no doubt been the root
cause of the abuse you've suffered throughout life.

Now why don't you return to memorizing the Vagina Monologues and reapply
more Preparation H while awaiting your next caller....

CM

Kind of a waste to let them live past their productive egg laying
years....they would serve a better purpose by visiting your stewpot...


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:02NYd.23935$ZO2.13939@edtnps84...
Oh no... they have a cedar shingled 8'x12' Chook House, windows, lights,
heat with an enclosed 12'x12' pen that has a metal roof. The lighting is
on a timer and a 6 CD player is installed. A dust vent system and exhaust
fan control air quality. The "girls" live a good life and enjoy their stay
well beyond their productive span to die of old age. Any chicken would
give it's eye teeth to stay there.

By the way... you are aware I don't live in the Arctic anymore aren't you?
You do know where Nova Scotia is don't you?

CM


"JG" wrote in message
...
Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh wait...
I forgot, they live in your house.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84...
Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a
nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84...

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout"
said:

But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape
together 20% of $500K for a down payment.

Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to
scrape
together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to
first
base. The coop board will turn them down.

Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth
$500K??
Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this
way!
$50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out
buildings......

CM

"katysails" wrote in message

Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not
that I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so
important to you...

Important? No Kitty.... it's merely par for the course when dealing with
Gaynzy. Slapping around of such an obviously annoying little twit isn't done
to elevate my standing.... that's already understood. I suppose I could
ignore him... but what sport is there in that?

You do understand that he brings this action upon himself of his own
volition don't you? He is free to communicate in a rational manner but
refuses to do so. If he had any senses at all he wouldn't be killfiled by so
many people.

CM

Assertive behaviour is motivated by aggressive stance. If you stand your
ground... you are asserting your place... the very act of that is
aggressive. The meek can never be taught assertiveness.... I don't care how
many classes you give them.... they will fold like superman on laundry day
in the face of someone with a true assertive/aggressive personality.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
You're wrong....there are people that specialize in training the meek to
be assertive...these people have not got an aggressive bone in their
bodies and get walked over....with assertiveness training, they are able
to start fending for themselves...has nothing to do with aggression and
everything to do with survival....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84...
Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive
attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom of
an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not have
to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to comprehend this
because as a female you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas
aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment
lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions and
then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain their
goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or continue
to rise....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89...
I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make erroneous
assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average male...
aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive nature is not
required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few women in a
position of power show an extremely heightened sense of aggressiveness
and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to do with it.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as
anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it
worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived in
but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in an
enlightened society is an anachronism...


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84...
NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and assertiveness....
which is understandable. I will repeat myself despite the fact I know
you are not capable of understanding the logic..... You cannot be
assertive without being aggressive.

Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that aggression
requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression between males
has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be comprehended by
females. The level of aggressive behaviour is dependant on the
situation. This is comprehended by even the youngest of our gender.

CM



CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in the
ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the ground.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84...
You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of
asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your
subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This
situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral
indifference.

CM


"katysails" wrote in message
...
I am assertive....not aggressive....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90...
Aggression need not be physical....

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the boots,
chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89...
You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take your
own advise.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal instinct
and start using the tools that were given you to negotiate and
walk away from aggression?

I raise meat birds for that... old hens don't make for the best food. I lose
a few hens every year from old age and replace them with young hens. This
isn't a production farm.... I'm not in this for profit and I don't consider
it a waste to let them live out their lives.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Kind of a waste to let them live past their productive egg laying
years....they would serve a better purpose by visiting your stewpot...


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:02NYd.23935$ZO2.13939@edtnps84...
Oh no... they have a cedar shingled 8'x12' Chook House, windows, lights,
heat with an enclosed 12'x12' pen that has a metal roof. The lighting is
on a timer and a 6 CD player is installed. A dust vent system and exhaust
fan control air quality. The "girls" live a good life and enjoy their
stay well beyond their productive span to die of old age. Any chicken
would give it's eye teeth to stay there.

By the way... you are aware I don't live in the Arctic anymore aren't
you? You do know where Nova Scotia is don't you?

CM


"JG" wrote in message
...
Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh
wait... I forgot, they live in your house.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84...
Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a
nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84...

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout"
said:

But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape
together 20% of $500K for a down payment.

Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to
scrape
together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to
first
base. The coop board will turn them down.

Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth
$500K??
Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this
way!
$50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out
buildings......

CM

I'm sure you visit them regularly. Interesting that you call them your
"girls." Well, I suppose that's better than calling them your "boys," and I
doubt the roosters would put up with your advances.

Yes, I'm aware of the general location of Nova Scotia. It's still a heck of
a lot colder than sunny California... in the high 70s low 80s today. I've
been sailing all week. Bwaahahahaaaaaa....

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:02NYd.23935$ZO2.13939@edtnps84...
Oh no... they have a cedar shingled 8'x12' Chook House, windows, lights,
heat with an enclosed 12'x12' pen that has a metal roof. The lighting is
on a timer and a 6 CD player is installed. A dust vent system and exhaust
fan control air quality. The "girls" live a good life and enjoy their stay
well beyond their productive span to die of old age. Any chicken would
give it's eye teeth to stay there.

By the way... you are aware I don't live in the Arctic anymore aren't you?
You do know where Nova Scotia is don't you?

CM


"JG" wrote in message
...
Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh wait...
I forgot, they live in your house.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84...
Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a
nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84...

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout"
said:

But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape
together 20% of $500K for a down payment.

Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to
scrape
together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to
first
base. The coop board will turn them down.

Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth
$500K??
Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this
way!
$50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out
buildings......

CM

It proves something to himself. It's a bit sad actually.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katysails" wrote in message
news
Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not
that I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so
important to you...


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:xwMYd.23933$ZO2.21646@edtnps84...

"JG" wrote in message
...
I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert one's
rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you are just
plain stupid.

Well now Gaynzy... you're neither aggressive nor assertive... you're just
an annoying, whining little homo! Your incapacity of emulating any
masculine traits is positive proof that you are a limp wristed, lisping
queer! Your tendency to effeminate behaviour has no doubt been the root
cause of the abuse you've suffered throughout life.

Now why don't you return to memorizing the Vagina Monologues and reapply
more Preparation H while awaiting your next caller....

CM