"gonefishiing" wrote
what would you have done differently?

Stayed in America?

takes--this is all a big help.
much to consider.
gf.

"katysails" wrote in message
...
If you are really truly looking for the best dog for you, then speak with
a
local obedience trainer about what suits your lifestyle...and then use
them
after you get the puppy. Or speak to your vet. And don't discount the
rescue breed chapters for a suitable adult dog...there are acres of books
on
the subject. The best books on training puppies are put out by the monks
of
New Skete in New York, They breed German Shepards in particular but there
books are aimed toward the generic. And if the dog is going to be left on
its' own, make sure you crate train.

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katysails
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
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another good idea
thanks
gf.


Volunteer together at the local animal shelter. She'll get a chance to
spend time with (and help) puppies & kittens and also learn something
about responsibility.

i should have added: there are a number of shelters here that do great work
and i would most likely support one fo them in this effort.
thanks once more.
gf.

gonefishiing wrote:
i should have added: there are a number of shelters here that do great work
and i would most likely support one fo them in this effort.

Me too. I hope it works out for you both.

The downside is that your daughter will see first hand some of how awful
& cruel people can be. It may make a cynic of her.

However IMHO it's better to know reality and try to retain one's ideals
in spite of it all, rather than to labor under delusions and ignorance
while pretending everything is just peachy. And the animals do need the
help!

DSK

katysails wrote:
....The best books on training puppies are put out by the monks of
New Skete in New York

I second that recommendation. For a hands-on dog training book, they're
the best. I've also read several of Stanley Coren's books, he is rather
interesting.

DSK

Yup, most of the dogs at those shelters were left there by 'part time
dads', who, buy their 'part time daughter' everything they whine for .
After a few weeks the teenager is attracted to another 'fad' and the
dog is neglected . Because the 'part time dad' is too busy working to
pay for all the stuff the whining teen asks for he drops it off at the
shelter and buys another 'present' .

SV


"DSK" wrote in message
...
gonefishiing wrote:
i should have added: there are a number of shelters here that do
great work
and i would most likely support one fo them in this effort.

Me too. I hope it works out for you both.

The downside is that your daughter will see first hand some of how
awful
& cruel people can be. It may make a cynic of her.

However IMHO it's better to know reality and try to retain one's
ideals
in spite of it all, rather than to labor under delusions and
ignorance
while pretending everything is just peachy. And the animals do need
the
help!

DSK

actually that sounds like sailing
and agree.
she already has reality as her experience and does fine with it.
in fact she's the best helmsman ever been aboard.
but that's another story...............................
i have at least till the end of the month to decide the next discussion, as
she is traveling at the moment.
part of my reality.
thanks.

gf.


"DSK" wrote in message
...
However IMHO it's better to know reality and try to retain one's ideals
in spite of it all, rather than to labor under delusions and ignorance
while pretending everything is just peachy. And the animals do need the
help!

DSK

sound a bit bitter there scott, with a too many assumptions in the mix.
gf.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Yup, most of the dogs at those shelters were left there by 'part time
dads', who, buy their 'part time daughter' everything they whine for .
After a few weeks the teenager is attracted to another 'fad' and the
dog is neglected . Because the 'part time dad' is too busy working to
pay for all the stuff the whining teen asks for he drops it off at the
shelter and buys another 'present' .

SV


"DSK" wrote in message
...
gonefishiing wrote:
i should have added: there are a number of shelters here that do
great work
and i would most likely support one fo them in this effort.

Me too. I hope it works out for you both.

The downside is that your daughter will see first hand some of how
awful
& cruel people can be. It may make a cynic of her.

However IMHO it's better to know reality and try to retain one's
ideals
in spite of it all, rather than to labor under delusions and
ignorance
while pretending everything is just peachy. And the animals do need
the
help!

DSK

it's a generalization, but I've seen it happen all too often.
Are you Italian?

Scotty

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
sound a bit bitter there scott, with a too many assumptions in the
mix.
gf.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Yup, most of the dogs at those shelters were left there by 'part
time
dads', who, buy their 'part time daughter' everything they whine
for .
After a few weeks the teenager is attracted to another 'fad' and
the
dog is neglected . Because the 'part time dad' is too busy working
to
pay for all the stuff the whining teen asks for he drops it off at
the
shelter and buys another 'present' .

SV


"DSK" wrote in message
...
gonefishiing wrote:
i should have added: there are a number of shelters here that
do
great work
and i would most likely support one fo them in this effort.

Me too. I hope it works out for you both.

The downside is that your daughter will see first hand some of
how
awful
& cruel people can be. It may make a cynic of her.

However IMHO it's better to know reality and try to retain one's
ideals
in spite of it all, rather than to labor under delusions and
ignorance
while pretending everything is just peachy. And the animals do
need
the
help!

DSK