Amen. They eat about 50lbs. of dogfood per week and have an avg. life
expectancy of 6 years.

Max

Not to mention the 50 lbs of dog pop....and hip dysphasia....and tons of
hair.....
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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VHF Channel 13 is designated as the navigational bridge-to-bridge
communications channel for US, Canadian,and International VHF radios.
krj

Horvath wrote:

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:16:29 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:


The idiot backs up to moor off.... what can you expect from this dunce....
at least he's got one brain cell... which is one more than Loco!

CM
|
| What to do differently? Hail them on the radio - that's what its for.
| You
| should at least have been monitoring 13 - they were probably talking
| about you.
|
|
| I think you mean channel 16.





Maintaining a Watch on Channel 16
All vessels must guard, maintain a watch on, and listen to Channel 16.


Channel 16 is a calling and emergency channel. DO NOT HAVE
CONVERSATIONS ON THIS CHANNEL. The only exception is the Coast Guard
when working a MAYDAY.

Channel 16 is very busy, so don't use it unless there is an emergency.
ALWAYS listen before you key your microphone. After you are sure
you're not going to "step" on anyone, you can make your call. Do not
blow into the mic., just make your call. Your initial call to a boat
cannot exceed 30 seconds.



http://www.sailnow.com/sail/vhf.html








Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

sound a bit bitter there gf, with a too many stereotypes in the mix.

SV


"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
Scotty,
generalization my ass
what the f@#k kind of comment is that?

haw bout this?
bring ya big truck up here
we take care of it fo ya.
just park it on the Cross Bronx, the LIE, the Major Deagan
**** i don't care park it anywhere ya want
just park that smelly cow hauling piece if junk
yeah come to ny--i don't need no italians to help me
i take care it myself.
i be there

right now i'm busy wit a nice white girl so don't bother me

i've lived and traveled in a lot of places in the world and it never
ceases
to amaze me
that there are blind assholes waving american flags and they don't
have a
clue what it means.

come to NYC, i'd like to meet an american redneck again.
just to ****ing show my friends that you really exist ya understand
sincerely
gf.

**** at least ganz is funny compared to this asshole.
and i have a funny feeling he won't show.


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
it's a generalization, but I've seen it happen all too often.
Are you Italian?

Scotty

"gonefishiing" wrote ...
Scotty,
generalization my ass
what the f@#k kind of comment is that?

a general one.


haw bout this?
bring ya big truck up here
we take care of it fo ya.
just park it on the Cross Bronx, the LIE, the Major Deagan
**** i don't care park it anywhere ya want


according to another asshole from NYC, you can't park a truck in NYC.




i've lived in a lot of trailer parks in the world and it never
ceases
to amaze me

that water runs downhill?




come to NYC,

been there, many times. It sucks, it's dirty, noisy, smelly, too
crowded, ****ty, over priced, crappy, and full of assholes.


So? Are you Italian?


Scotty


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
it's a generalization, but I've seen it happen all too often.
Are you Italian?

Scotty

OzOne wrote:


IDIOT!!!
"You should also be aware that tankers don't necessarily monitor
Channel 16. They DO monitor Channel 13, however."

From the reference you quoted dum dum!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Actually, they're required to monitor both.
Having said that, if you are in an area that employs a VTS, they may be
mainly concentrating on the channel for that service (14, 12 come to
mind) or if a pilot is aboard, he may have the "concentration" set on
his working channel.
Basically, at sea, figure on 16/13. In Coastal, harbor, VTS, areas, you
will need to know the working channels being used for the area although
16/13 should still be monitored.

otn

Subject: Katysails/Dogs was night sailing - too close for comfort.
From: "Maxprop"
Date: 08/16/2004 21:48 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

Irish Wolfhound???? :-)

That's not a Dawg... this is a DOG!

Amen. They eat about 50lbs. of dogfood per week and have an avg. life
expectancy of 6 years.

Max


If they're eating 50lbs/wk, they are probably one fat Wolfhound unless they are
being "worked".
Eng Mastiff = 50lbs/month and thems the biggest .... course, they're also the
biggest "couch potatoes".

Shen

"gonefishiing" wrote in message ...

which brings me to the current possiblities:
sheperd is still on the list.
shetland is one i had not thought of.
and terriers are what my daughter is leaning towards, i don't know enough
yet to say either way.

--starting to get the picture of what to think about.

I had over the years a wolf, pug, ****zu, great dane, kesheen, pit.
Now I have the best dog I've ever had a... Schipperke.

He is the smartest, most loyal dog Ive ever had. He is perfect for
living aboard. He loves to swim(jumps over all the time without
warning on the Dink) hates rats with passion, is very protective of
the boat and who comes aboard. Can hear and notice if anyone steps
aboard or walks on my dock. Pointy ears that do not need cropping and
dry easy to prevent ear infections. When I go to sleep he lays next to
me and I have nothing to worry about someone sneaking aboard. He can
get on and off the boat himself. He is small enough to not get in the
way, yet big and strong enough to climb steps jump on and off the
bunks in and out of the cabins ect.., small enough to fit in the oven
in the worst case situation, loves kids, ect...

From what I hear... and now know.. they bond with one person for life.
He has lived on RedCloud since he was 6 weeks old.

Stories Ive heard.
Sailing ships going down and the dogs found still swimming 6 days
later.
Breed to guard the barges on the canals in europe, often riding on the
backs of the horses that pull the barges. Also use to keep sheep on
the barges, and rats off.
Used in WW 1 by the USCG to listen for submarines.
One save a child from a bear attack, gave his life in the process.


Problems:
Barks alot! Hates tires on cars! Might get him killed if he gets
loose. Hard to catch when they decide to run. Loves to chew holes in
all the pillows.

Still overall he's the best dog by far that Ive ever had. His name is
Skipper and if anyone wants to see a picture I'd be happy to send you
one.

Joe








still the question if i can spare the time is primary and will not pursue
anything until i can answer this
work is in a state of transition and may make the reality of this more
attainable

your knowledge and insight is appreciated
thanks

gf.






"katysails" wrote in message
...

protective
not small, not too big
good temperament around kids / visitors
lab
retriever
shepherd
akita
wolve

None of these, if you get a puppy...labs and retrievers need two years to
wind down and if there is going to be a lack of attention 50% of the time,
then they're out...the other three are not for people with limited dog
experience...they are smart breeds and if left to their own devise, become
assertive and dominant and you'll have problems. Corgis, Shetland
sheepdog,
some of the larger terrier breeds (not a Jack Russell, too labor intense)
would be better. They incorporate protectiveness and watchfulness with
loyalty and enough smarts to get by and be good pets. BTW, Akitas are
generally one-person dogs....and are quite a handful...any type of
domesticated wolf is a major problem...
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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WHAT A DUMMY!

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
Maintaining a Watch on Channel 16
All vessels must guard, maintain a watch on, and listen to Channel 16.

Channel 16 is a calling and emergency channel. DO NOT HAVE
CONVERSATIONS ON THIS CHANNEL. The only exception is the Coast Guard
when working a MAYDAY.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

So what is the required exception, or better put, addition to CH 16? And
when is it used?

For points apply to Bart Sr. For pints let Donal and Oz be your guide.

M.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
WHAT A DUMMY!

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
Maintaining a Watch on Channel 16
All vessels must guard, maintain a watch on, and listen to Channel 16.

Channel 16 is a calling and emergency channel. DO NOT HAVE
CONVERSATIONS ON THIS CHANNEL. The only exception is the Coast Guard
when working a MAYDAY.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"gonefishiing" wrote in message ...
apologies for not getting back to your post
swamped with work

I understand the point about labs/retrievers
also understand the need to match the breed with a "lifestyle" so to speak.
akitas seem too demanding a breed and perhaps too agressive.

which brings me to the current possiblities:
sheperd is still on the list.
shetland is one i had not thought of.
and terriers are what my daughter is leaning towards, i don't know enough
yet to say either way.

I had over the years a wolf, pug, ****zu, great dane, kesheen, pit.
Now I have the best dog I've ever had a... Schipperke.

He is the smartest, most loyal dog Ive ever had. He is perfect for
living aboard. He loves to swim(jumps over all the time without
warning on the Dink) hates rats with passion, is very protective of
the boat and who comes aboard. Can hear and notice if anyone steps
aboard or walks on my dock. Pointy ears that do not need cropping and
dry easy to prevent ear infections. When I go to sleep he lays next to
me and I have nothing to worry about someone sneaking aboard. He can
get on and off the boat himself. He is small enough to not get in the
way, yet big and strong enough to climb steps jump on and off the
bunks in and out of the cabins ect.., small enough to fit in the oven
in the worst case situation, loves kids, ect...

From what I hear... and now know.. they bond with one person for life.
He has lived on RedCloud since he was 6 weeks old.

Stories Ive heard.
Sailing ships going down and the dogs found still swimming 6 days
later.
Breed to guard the barges on the canals in europe, often riding on the
backs of the horses that pull the barges. Also use to keep sheep on
the barges, and rats off.
Used in WW 1 by the USCG to listen for submarines.
One save a child from a bear attack, gave his life in the process.


Problems:
Barks alot! Hates tires on cars! Might get him killed if he gets
loose. Hard to catch when they decide to run. Loves to chew holes in
all the pillows.

Still overall he's the best dog by far that Ive ever had. His name is
Skipper and if anyone wants to see a picture I'd be happy to send you
one.

Joe







--starting to get the picture of what to think about.

still the question if i can spare the time is primary and will not pursue
anything until i can answer this
work is in a state of transition and may make the reality of this more
attainable

your knowledge and insight is appreciated
thanks

gf.






"katysails" wrote in message
...

protective
not small, not too big
good temperament around kids / visitors
lab
retriever
shepherd
akita
wolve

None of these, if you get a puppy...labs and retrievers need two years to
wind down and if there is going to be a lack of attention 50% of the time,
then they're out...the other three are not for people with limited dog
experience...they are smart breeds and if left to their own devise, become
assertive and dominant and you'll have problems. Corgis, Shetland
sheepdog,
some of the larger terrier breeds (not a Jack Russell, too labor intense)
would be better. They incorporate protectiveness and watchfulness with
loyalty and enough smarts to get by and be good pets. BTW, Akitas are
generally one-person dogs....and are quite a handful...any type of
domesticated wolf is a major problem...
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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