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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:35:53 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

And, by doing so, volunteering for serious fines, penalties and, in some
cases, jail time.

Are you sure you are not related to Larry?

Don't delude yourself. My wife cooks for probably *the* major food
service Corporation in this country.
The kitchen is full of illegals. Sometimes one goes and another comes
in with the same name.
This corporation is flagrantly breaking the law, and to think they
don't know is plain dumb. My wife won't say anything, despite it
holding down her salary, because she feels for the people she works
with. I won't say the corporation name because it could be tied back
to her, and I'm not on site anyway, so have no standing.
But if it were me, and I needed that job, I might keep my mouth shut
anyway, in fear of losing the job.
I don't think this happens in union shops.

--Vic

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"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:



And, by doing so, volunteering for serious fines, penalties and, in some
cases, jail time.

Are you sure you are not related to Larry?

Eisboch

Oh, you think it otherwise, that the meat processing industries, the
clothing industries, the homebuilding industries, the service industries,
et cetera, are not packed with "illegals"?

Where have you been?


On my boat.

But, I read. I agree, years ago it was easy and "safe" to hire illegals.
Laws with substantial penalties have been put in place to discourage that
practice however and they are enforced.

Eisboch

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:35:53 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:16:17 -0400, John H. wrote:


What happens to our statistics when you take illegal immigrants out of
the picture?

Why don't you ask a Canadian? They have the highest per capita net
immigration rate in the world, although they don't much concern
themselves with illegal immigrants.


Here's a better question: how many manufacturing plants and service job
companies would shut down if we took "illegal immigrants" out of the
picture?

We have so many illegals because corporations want them as cheap workers
they can exploit by paying low wages and avoiding fringe benefits.

Check out the meat packing industry. Used to provide lots of decent jobs
with good wages and bennies to American workers. Now, the labor is
performed by mostly illegals working at substandard wages. Same with
single family and townhouse construction: most of the work is done by
crews of illegals. Been to a downtown office building? Cleaned and
maintained by illegals.

And, of course, while labor charges have plummeted, the cost of services
and goods is going through the roof.

Corporate greed.

And we get to pay double. Because the illegals for the most part are not
covered by health care, when they need care they show up at the hospital
emergency room, which we all pay for directly and indirectly.

The problem with Herring is that he is simple-minded. He thinks "illegal
immigrants" are the problem, partially because he is a racist who
previously has stated his disdain for Latinos and blacks.

WAFL!!



And, by doing so, volunteering for serious fines, penalties and, in some
cases, jail time.

Are you sure you are not related to Larry?

Eisboch



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** Good Day! **

John H

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"hk" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:35:53 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
And, by doing so, volunteering for serious fines, penalties and, in some
cases, jail time.

Are you sure you are not related to Larry?

Don't delude yourself. My wife cooks for probably *the* major food
service Corporation in this country.
The kitchen is full of illegals. Sometimes one goes and another comes
in with the same name. This corporation is flagrantly breaking the law,
and to think they
don't know is plain dumb. My wife won't say anything, despite it
holding down her salary, because she feels for the people she works
with. I won't say the corporation name because it could be tied back
to her, and I'm not on site anyway, so have no standing.
But if it were me, and I needed that job, I might keep my mouth shut
anyway, in fear of losing the job.
I don't think this happens in union shops.

--Vic



Shhhhhhhhhh. It's a corporate secret.


Secret or not, it is against the law. If someone blew the whisle on the
corporations violating it, they would be fined, penalized or worse.

Eisboch

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:35:53 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
And, by doing so, volunteering for serious fines, penalties and, in some
cases, jail time.

Are you sure you are not related to Larry?

Don't delude yourself. My wife cooks for probably *the* major food
service Corporation in this country.
The kitchen is full of illegals. Sometimes one goes and another comes
in with the same name.
This corporation is flagrantly breaking the law, and to think they
don't know is plain dumb. My wife won't say anything, despite it
holding down her salary, because she feels for the people she works
with. I won't say the corporation name because it could be tied back
to her, and I'm not on site anyway, so have no standing.
But if it were me, and I needed that job, I might keep my mouth shut
anyway, in fear of losing the job.
I don't think this happens in union shops.

--Vic



Shhhhhhhhhh. It's a corporate secret.

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Eisboch wrote:

And, by doing so, volunteering for serious fines, penalties and, in some
cases, jail time.

Are you sure you are not related to Larry?

Eisboch
Oh, you think it otherwise, that the meat processing industries, the
clothing industries, the homebuilding industries, the service industries,
et cetera, are not packed with "illegals"?

Where have you been?


On my boat.

But, I read. I agree, years ago it was easy and "safe" to hire illegals.
Laws with substantial penalties have been put in place to discourage that
practice however and they are enforced.

Eisboch




That's like saying the Dubya Admin properly enforces worker safety and
environmental regulations. Every so often, there is a showcase raid.

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:35:53 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
And, by doing so, volunteering for serious fines, penalties and, in
some cases, jail time.

Are you sure you are not related to Larry?

Don't delude yourself. My wife cooks for probably *the* major food
service Corporation in this country.
The kitchen is full of illegals. Sometimes one goes and another comes
in with the same name. This corporation is flagrantly breaking the
law, and to think they
don't know is plain dumb. My wife won't say anything, despite it
holding down her salary, because she feels for the people she works
with. I won't say the corporation name because it could be tied back
to her, and I'm not on site anyway, so have no standing.
But if it were me, and I needed that job, I might keep my mouth shut
anyway, in fear of losing the job.
I don't think this happens in union shops.

--Vic


Shhhhhhhhhh. It's a corporate secret.


Secret or not, it is against the law. If someone blew the whisle on the
corporations violating it, they would be fined, penalized or worse.

Eisboch

Right. That's It! That'll Do It. :)

You want results on this issue? Arrest, try, convict and imprison
corporate officers.

That's who I am talking about. They are breaking the law.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:35:53 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
And, by doing so, volunteering for serious fines, penalties and, in
some cases, jail time.

Are you sure you are not related to Larry?

Don't delude yourself. My wife cooks for probably *the* major food
service Corporation in this country.
The kitchen is full of illegals. Sometimes one goes and another comes
in with the same name. This corporation is flagrantly breaking the
law, and to think they
don't know is plain dumb. My wife won't say anything, despite it
holding down her salary, because she feels for the people she works
with. I won't say the corporation name because it could be tied back
to her, and I'm not on site anyway, so have no standing.
But if it were me, and I needed that job, I might keep my mouth shut
anyway, in fear of losing the job.
I don't think this happens in union shops.

--Vic

Shhhhhhhhhh. It's a corporate secret.

Secret or not, it is against the law. If someone blew the whisle on the
corporations violating it, they would be fined, penalized or worse.

Eisboch
Right. That's It! That'll Do It. :)

You want results on this issue? Arrest, try, convict and imprison
corporate officers.

That's who I am talking about. They are breaking the law.

Eisboch




Well, you'll have to use a cattle prod to get the Bush Admin to do that.
I haven't read where the chairman and board of Wal-Mart have been
arrested and charged with employing illegals.

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"hk" wrote in message
...




Well, you'll have to use a cattle prod to get the Bush Admin to do that.
I haven't read where the chairman and board of Wal-Mart have been arrested
and charged with employing illegals.


You have inside information that Wal-Mart hires illegals?

Eisboch

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:55:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:35:53 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
And, by doing so, volunteering for serious fines, penalties and, in
some cases, jail time.

Are you sure you are not related to Larry?

Don't delude yourself. My wife cooks for probably *the* major food
service Corporation in this country.
The kitchen is full of illegals. Sometimes one goes and another comes
in with the same name. This corporation is flagrantly breaking the
law, and to think they
don't know is plain dumb. My wife won't say anything, despite it
holding down her salary, because she feels for the people she works
with. I won't say the corporation name because it could be tied back
to her, and I'm not on site anyway, so have no standing.
But if it were me, and I needed that job, I might keep my mouth shut
anyway, in fear of losing the job.
I don't think this happens in union shops.

--Vic


Shhhhhhhhhh. It's a corporate secret.


Secret or not, it is against the law. If someone blew the whisle on the
corporations violating it, they would be fined, penalized or worse.

Eisboch

Right. That's It! That'll Do It. :)

You want results on this issue? Arrest, try, convict and imprison
corporate officers.

That's who I am talking about. They are breaking the law.

Eisboch


Isn't agreement loverly?
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** Good Day! **

John H