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Good Morning Harry Krause

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:57:55 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:31:32 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

Now, if I'd been
a Marine or a Sailor, then I'd be thinking 'payback' time

Pfft...just being a Marine is payment enough.

Now Squids - well, they should be paying us to serve. :)

You're just jealous because the IQ requirements for the Navy are so much
higher.

Eisboch

That *was* a good one!

....so much higher than what?
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** Good Day! **

John H

For TJ: Health Care Proposals

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:54:30 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:15:41 -0400, Eisboch wrote:

No they are not. The Norwegians are using their oil wealth to pay for
a social welfare system.
When demand for oil begins to ease, they will need to sell many more
cans of sardines to maintain their social utopia.

Eisboch
It may not be enough, but Norway has used it's oil wealth more
intelligently than most.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl....w-OS-main-31/

BNStory/oilsands

By the way, Norway's oil production has peaked.

Absolutely true, and they have a tremendous cash surplus. They have
taken advantage of the age of oil.

My point is that when that revenue stream erodes and the cash is used
..... what then?
This may sound harsh or crude, but it's much more difficult for all
concerned to take welfare benefits away from people than it is to have
never made them available to begin with. The Social Security program
in the US is a good example. Over the years it has become a political
hot button as changes are made, benefits are reduced or restricted (by
age) in attempts to keep it solvent.

Eisboch

Easy solution...take the earnings cap off Social Security, and apply the
tax to *total* income, no matter its source, and double or treble the
rates for income over a certain very high level, including "deferred"
income.

Is that "certain very high level" a few dollars more than you make?
Sort of like, we should have a extra tax that use more gas than your Parker/

As long as the benefits went out in proportion to who paid in, that
wouldn't be so bad.
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** Good Day! **

John H

For TJ: Health Care Proposals

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:10:16 -0400, TJ wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:18:35 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You might want to spend a bit of time actually reading some of the
proposals out on the table rather than depending upon your personal
ignorance.

That is, if you are really interested.

Herring, a military retiree, is already sucking on the taxpayer teat for
his health care.
I read your reply four times, and I don't see an answer to my question.
Perhaps you don't have one. That's OK, because I don't have one, either.
If you have a url for the details of Sen. Obama's universal health care
proposal, especially the part where he tells how it is to be funded,
please post it here and I'd be happy to go read it.

Hey, TJ! I'm 'Herring', the military retiree Harry is referring to. Don't
know why, but I'm he.

Yes, I'm already sucking on the taxpayer teat. But that's 'cause I fed the
taxpayer's cow for a bunch of years. Harry dodged the draft, so he is
sucking off the union members' teats.

In any case, you shouldn't argue with Harry. Get him to take you on his
lobster boat instead.
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** Good Day! **

John H

I'm beginning to see that. He sounds like the type that gives his cause
a bad name, no matter what that cause is. He also sounds like he's
bitter about not being rich, and he blames others for that, the current
government in particular. In reality, this country gives him more
opportunities to become one of those rich people he despises so much
than most others, but it isn't just handed to you by the government -
you have to go after it yourself. But, like many other bitter,
frustrated people, he can't see that. If you look to the government to
solve your problems for you, you're looking in the wrong direction.

Asset-wise, I'm probably one of those rich Americans Harry hates so
much. But maintaining those assets and keeping them debt-free keeps my
bank account low, most likely much lower than his. The government isn't
to blame for that, I am. I made a few decisions that turned out to be
mistakes. My business is weather-dependent, and all the old rules about
what to do no longer work as they once did. I have to adapt, make new
rules, and I'd be most pleased if the government would leave me alone to
work it out myself.

Of course, as we all know, had Al Gore won the Electoral vote back in
2000, we'd be another Norwegian-style utopia by now, with global warming
solved. Yeah, right. Liberals, Conservatives, there's little difference
in results. The only difference is in the pet projects they pursue.

TJ

Sounds like you've got the situation well in hand. Now they'll be talking
about the 27 dwarfs.

What business are you in?
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** Good Day! **

John H

For TJ: Health Care Proposals

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:13:04 -0300, Don White wrote:

As I see it, our system works pretty good most of the time but could be
much better if the federal gov't paid their fair share. Small, poorer
provinces with aging populations , like Nova Scotia, struggle with the
financial burden.

It's cheaper too. US health care cost amount to over 15% GDP. Canada's
are less than 10% GDP.

For TJ: Health Care Proposals

Good Morning Harry Krause

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:30:10 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:57:55 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:31:32 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

Now, if I'd been
a Marine or a Sailor, then I'd be thinking 'payback' time

Pfft...just being a Marine is payment enough.

Now Squids - well, they should be paying us to serve. :)

You're just jealous because the IQ requirements for the Navy are so much
higher.

That *was* a good one!

...so much higher than what?

The Army. :)

Good Morning Harry Krause

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:30:10 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:57:55 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:31:32 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

Now, if I'd been
a Marine or a Sailor, then I'd be thinking 'payback' time
Pfft...just being a Marine is payment enough.

Now Squids - well, they should be paying us to serve. :)
You're just jealous because the IQ requirements for the Navy are so much
higher.
That *was* a good one!

...so much higher than what?

The Army. :)

What are the IQ requirements these days? Apparently the "standards" keep
getting lowered for military service.

For TJ: Health Care Proposals

Good Morning Harry Krause

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:52:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:30:10 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:57:55 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:31:32 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

Now, if I'd been
a Marine or a Sailor, then I'd be thinking 'payback' time

Pfft...just being a Marine is payment enough.

Now Squids - well, they should be paying us to serve. :)

You're just jealous because the IQ requirements for the Navy are so much
higher.

That *was* a good one!

...so much higher than what?

The Army. :)

That was a giveaway and you know it!
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** Good Day! **

John H