On Aug 2, 8:48*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:45:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

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Eisboch

Was listening to a Jazz station a couple of days ago and they were doing
an all time great guitar countdown. Carlos Santana was 15th and Eric
Clapton ranked 4th. Who else would be high on the list?

I'll betcha Jimi Henrix was number one ... or close.

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Really, I have everything he ever did, in three versions And I don't
think he is nearly the best assuming they are looking for technical
skills Now interpretation, could very well be, especially when Mitch
was talking back

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On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:48:23 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Was the rating limited to Jazz? I took it as all time great guitarists.



Jim did say jazz radio station - assumed jazz guiratists.

Perhaps I'm wrong.

Which, oddly, is something that has happened before. :)

Jim mumbles a lot. You have to interpret.

I am surprised that two of my favorite guitarists are seldom mentioned in
these ratings, Joe Walsh and Don Felder of the Eagles.
Walsh is certainly up there in my book as a rocker. Don Felder is
classically trained and it shows, particularly in the "Hell Freezes Over"
CD/DVD. I enjoy his playing a lot.

Eisboch

JimH wrote:
On Aug 2, 8:50 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:42:00 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."



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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:56:37 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
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On Aug 2, 7:44 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
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hk wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
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hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
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I suppose it is for photographers not interested in life as it is,
or for photographers whose composition and exposure skills are
minimal.
I like life as it is. I like to take photos that look as close to
what I saw as possible.
We recently came across an old, forgotten box of family photos.
One was my high school graduation "glamour" shot ..... you know,
the ones that were airbrushed back at the studio to remove a few
pimples, add a tinge of ruddy red to the cheeks and enhance the
color of the eyes.
In my case, I am kinda glad the photographer didn't simply
reproduce what he saw. It wasn't pretty.
Eisboch
Did you have a flattop?
Here's a photo of someone's 14-year-old granddaughter.
Do you think it has been photoshopped?
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...eous/diana.jpg
Actually it was photoshoped, using CS3. If you look at the exif data
you actually made 25 adjustments in photoshop.
I think she is a beautiful young woman, but the lighting is not
complementary to her or her skin tone. The photo looks flat like you
had the light directly behind you when you took the photo.
How come the picture disappeared?
Because the guy I wanted to see it saw it.
Harry, I noticed you did not disagree with the fact that you
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shhhhh, he's busy deflecting.. The guy is a fraud, every last post..
I had to download the photo to run the EXIF data, so I still have it.
The killer though is the photo would have been a really nice portrait if
he did not have her facing directly into the window.
Would you mind putting it back up?
http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...ts/diana-1.jpg
It would have been a really nice portrait if the photographer knew
what he was doing.

That's freakin horrible.

Pretty girl with fine bone structure like that deserves much better.

Much better? To make here look like she does not really look like?

LOL, do you really think a professional photographer just points and
shoots his camera?

Here are some simple rules that most photographers learn when they first
get their camera.

http://www.dumblittleman.com/2007/11...its-video.html

On Aug 2, 6:50*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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Eisboch wrote:
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So, was it?

Eisboch

Nope. No need to improve on nature.

Sometimes nature screws up. *Reflecting on the high school glamour shot,
here's what I really look like now, in my mind's eye.

http://www.eisboch.com/ec.jpg

Eisboch

Do you sound like that, too, in your mind's ear?

Of course. *Just ask me. *Or Sam. *He's the extent of my groupie following.

Eisboch

I would add JohnH and Reggie to that list. ;-)

On Aug 2, 9:06*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:5n0a94pcrb8fuekujf7389o3irarj4hkhs@4ax .com...

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:48:23 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Was the rating limited to Jazz? * I took it as all time great guitarists.

Jim did say jazz radio station - assumed jazz guiratists.

Perhaps I'm wrong.

Which, oddly, is something that has happened before. *:)

Jim mumbles a lot. *You have to interpret.

I am surprised that two of my favorite guitarists are seldom mentioned in
these ratings, *Joe Walsh and Don Felder of the Eagles.
Walsh is certainly up there in my book as a rocker. * *Don Felder is
classically trained and it shows, particularly in the "Hell Freezes Over"
CD/DVD. * I enjoy his playing a lot.

Eisboch

I have a neat CD you might want to check out sometime. I don't listen
much as it's not quite my cup of tea, but it is Chet Atkins and Mark
Knopfler with a couple of hollowbocy electric Gibsons..

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On Aug 2, 8:48 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:45:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Eisboch

Was listening to a Jazz station a couple of days ago and they were
doing
an all time great guitar countdown. Carlos Santana was 15th and Eric
Clapton ranked 4th. Who else would be high on the list?

I'll betcha Jimi Henrix was number one ... or close.

No way.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Really, I have everything he ever did, in three versions And I don't
think he is nearly the best assuming they are looking for technical
skills Now interpretation, could very well be, especially when Mitch
was talking back

I am not a big Jimi Henrix fan, but respect his position in the various
ratings and his heritage.
He was noted more for interpretation, as you say, I think.
I just was never into his type of music.

Eisboch

On Aug 2, 9:14*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Aug 2, 8:48 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:45:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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http://www.eisboch.com/ec.jpg

Eisboch

Was listening to a Jazz station a couple of days ago and they were
doing
an all time great guitar countdown. Carlos Santana was 15th and Eric
Clapton ranked 4th. Who else would be high on the list?

I'll betcha Jimi Henrix was number one ... or close.

No way.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Really, I have everything he ever did, in three versions And I don't
think he is nearly the best assuming they are looking for technical
skills Now interpretation, could very well be, especially when Mitch
was talking back

I am not a big Jimi Henrix fan, but respect his position in the various
ratings and his heritage.
He was noted more for interpretation, as you say, I think.
I just was never into his type of music.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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I know, I was playing your riff and noted that is was probably
something written when rock was still "happy" music.. Rock around the
Clock, Hand Jive, type stuff. Before it got mad and dark...

Have you ever seen the ads late at night for "The Midnight Special"
series? If not, look it up, and sign up. I guarantee you will love it,
if not you can stop anytime...

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On Aug 2, 6:50 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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So, was it?

Eisboch

Nope. No need to improve on nature.

Sometimes nature screws up. Reflecting on the high school glamour shot,
here's what I really look like now, in my mind's eye.

http://www.eisboch.com/ec.jpg

Eisboch

Do you sound like that, too, in your mind's ear?

Of course. Just ask me. Or Sam. He's the extent of my groupie following.

Eisboch

I would add JohnH and Reggie to that list. ;-)


May I ask why you had to make that comment?
We've all been enjoying reasonably pleasant exchanges this evening on a
subject of apparent common interest to many.
No politics. No serious bashing or flaming.

Until you came along.

Eisboch

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On Aug 2, 9:06 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:48:23 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Was the rating limited to Jazz? I took it as all time great guitarists.

Jim did say jazz radio station - assumed jazz guiratists.

Perhaps I'm wrong.

Which, oddly, is something that has happened before. :)

Jim mumbles a lot. You have to interpret.

I am surprised that two of my favorite guitarists are seldom mentioned in
these ratings, Joe Walsh and Don Felder of the Eagles.
Walsh is certainly up there in my book as a rocker. Don Felder is
classically trained and it shows, particularly in the "Hell Freezes Over"
CD/DVD. I enjoy his playing a lot.

Eisboch

I have a neat CD you might want to check out sometime. I don't listen
much as it's not quite my cup of tea, but it is Chet Atkins and Mark
Knopfler with a couple of hollowbocy electric Gibsons..

I like Chet Atkins, but can only take so much of it.
After a while it all sounds the same due to his unique picking style.

Eisboch

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:09:20 -0400, hk wrote:

I suppose I could have made the water blue, the skies bluer, the trees
greener, et cetera, but...my mind would have told me "that's not the way
it was."

In fact, what you saw and what the camera "saw" are two different
things. For instance when you frame an image, your minds "eye" is
translating what you are seeing while the camera is taking a replicant
image of what actually is.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...aneous/003.jpg

This is pretty good actually - it's flawed, but not as a composition -
the subject is clearly defined and while overly horizontal (it would
have looked better if instead of being shot straight on, at an angle
to the dock), it works.

The flaws are there is too much of nothing of interest. If you had
cropped about 25% off the bottom and to the edge of the kayaks on the
left, it would have been a much better composition overall even with
the straight on angle.

At that point, it wouldn't be difficult to blue up the sky enhancing
the white haze.

That's probably what your minds eye "saw", but the camera looks at the
scene in a much more harsh fashion.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...aneous/005.jpg

This one has potential, but needs a good working over with a histogram
to reduce the harsh white balance. The greens are way too washed out
against that hazy sky. Part of the problem is shooting into areas
where the greens transition into black and back again - probably
giving the meter fits in particular with the harsh white over all
tone. This image should be greenish more than whiteish if you get my
drift. Which can be problematic if only because greens are one of the
worst colors to adjust.

On the plus side, as an image, it's another straight on shot, but
accidentally, you received the benefit on depth with the walkway
projecting out towards the center of the image with a nice round
curve. If you took the haze out, blued up the image, reduce the
overall white washout (without sharpening - I might use the unmask
control to reduce the sharpening), that would be a nicer image than it
is.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...aneous/011.jpg

Believe it or not, this is a gem in the rough. Very crisp, the greens
are properly balanced and the composition is really interesting. If
you cloned out the walker/biker in the distance on the right, it would
help a lot.

Again, some problems with overall white washout that could use some
help - in particular with the sky - you must have had white balance on
auto because that is almost always an artifact when you find hazy
conditions. Unmask control is your friend on this one, adjust the
blue scale just a touch to take the white wash out, don't touch the
contract/brightness controls and it's a great image.


Thanks for your comments, and no offense, but...these are my snapshot
photos, that's all. There's no chance I'm going to "work them over"
beyond what they are now. Not interested.