"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Griss wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote

15 gallons of fresh and a gallon of 25:1. less oil than a can of

topoil.

Bill

"basskisser" wrote

sorry Bill, should have simpled it down for you. Two stroke motor oil
is not the same as a "can of topoil". Fuel injectors aren't made to
have oil pushed through them, leaving deposits, eventually gumming
them up beyond working condition. Contact a representative of a
reputable company that manufactures fuel injectors, say, Bosch, and
see what they say. There are other negative factors involved also. The
added exhaust particulates, when read by the O2 sensor, makes the
computer think there is a rich condition, then tries to lean it out.


This sounds like a reasonable caution to me and the first time I've
actually
had it explained to me. As I earlier posted, I've used old 50:1, at a
rate
of a few gallons to a tank full a couple of times in my cars, some carb.
some FI. It makes sense not to do it in the FI rigs (so far, no prob,
but
...) , but what do you think about carbureted vehicles, at a dilution
of,
say 5 gal 50:1 to 15 - 20 gal regular fuel?

Grissy



Oh please.

Dump it right in straight, fuel injected or carbed. Seriously... you
and the car will not even notice. Every FI car since my '85 Crown Vic
and every carbed car from 1973 up has injested whatever 50:1 I had left
in the spring with no adverse results at all except they get rusty with
12 years and 200,000 miles on them.

Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The #2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message hlink.net...
"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Griss wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote

15 gallons of fresh and a gallon of 25:1. less oil than a can of

topoil.

Bill

"basskisser" wrote

sorry Bill, should have simpled it down for you. Two stroke motor oil
is not the same as a "can of topoil". Fuel injectors aren't made to
have oil pushed through them, leaving deposits, eventually gumming
them up beyond working condition. Contact a representative of a
reputable company that manufactures fuel injectors, say, Bosch, and
see what they say. There are other negative factors involved also. The
added exhaust particulates, when read by the O2 sensor, makes the
computer think there is a rich condition, then tries to lean it out.


This sounds like a reasonable caution to me and the first time I've
actually
had it explained to me. As I earlier posted, I've used old 50:1, at a
rate
of a few gallons to a tank full a couple of times in my cars, some carb.
some FI. It makes sense not to do it in the FI rigs (so far, no prob,
but
...) , but what do you think about carbureted vehicles, at a dilution
of,
say 5 gal 50:1 to 15 - 20 gal regular fuel?

Grissy



Oh please.

Dump it right in straight, fuel injected or carbed. Seriously... you
and the car will not even notice. Every FI car since my '85 Crown Vic
and every carbed car from 1973 up has injested whatever 50:1 I had left
in the spring with no adverse results at all except they get rusty with
12 years and 200,000 miles on them.

Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The #2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Anybody can afford a new vehicle. I simply prefer to keep my old ones
running in great shape, and keep my money. I don't need to drive a
phallic symbol.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message hlink.net...
"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Griss wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote

15 gallons of fresh and a gallon of 25:1. less oil than a can of

topoil.

Bill

"basskisser" wrote

sorry Bill, should have simpled it down for you. Two stroke motor oil
is not the same as a "can of topoil". Fuel injectors aren't made to
have oil pushed through them, leaving deposits, eventually gumming
them up beyond working condition. Contact a representative of a
reputable company that manufactures fuel injectors, say, Bosch, and
see what they say. There are other negative factors involved also. The
added exhaust particulates, when read by the O2 sensor, makes the
computer think there is a rich condition, then tries to lean it out.


This sounds like a reasonable caution to me and the first time I've
actually
had it explained to me. As I earlier posted, I've used old 50:1, at a
rate
of a few gallons to a tank full a couple of times in my cars, some carb.
some FI. It makes sense not to do it in the FI rigs (so far, no prob,
but
...) , but what do you think about carbureted vehicles, at a dilution
of,
say 5 gal 50:1 to 15 - 20 gal regular fuel?

Grissy



Oh please.

Dump it right in straight, fuel injected or carbed. Seriously... you
and the car will not even notice. Every FI car since my '85 Crown Vic
and every carbed car from 1973 up has injested whatever 50:1 I had left
in the spring with no adverse results at all except they get rusty with
12 years and 200,000 miles on them.

Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The #2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

4


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Griss wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote

15 gallons of fresh and a gallon of 25:1. less oil than a can of

topoil.

Bill

"basskisser" wrote

sorry Bill, should have simpled it down for you. Two stroke motor
oil
is not the same as a "can of topoil". Fuel injectors aren't made to
have oil pushed through them, leaving deposits, eventually gumming
them up beyond working condition. Contact a representative of a
reputable company that manufactures fuel injectors, say, Bosch, and
see what they say. There are other negative factors involved also.
The
added exhaust particulates, when read by the O2 sensor, makes the
computer think there is a rich condition, then tries to lean it out.


This sounds like a reasonable caution to me and the first time I've
actually
had it explained to me. As I earlier posted, I've used old 50:1, at
a
rate
of a few gallons to a tank full a couple of times in my cars, some
carb.
some FI. It makes sense not to do it in the FI rigs (so far, no
prob,
but
...) , but what do you think about carbureted vehicles, at a
dilution
of,
say 5 gal 50:1 to 15 - 20 gal regular fuel?

Grissy



Oh please.

Dump it right in straight, fuel injected or carbed. Seriously... you
and the car will not even notice. Every FI car since my '85 Crown Vic
and every carbed car from 1973 up has injested whatever 50:1 I had
left
in the spring with no adverse results at all except they get rusty
with
12 years and 200,000 miles on them.

Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can
afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The
#2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

So far this argument seems to be between people who THINK running premix in
their car will have dire circumstances for a number of irrational reasons and
people who have actually done it with no problems. I tend to believe the people
with actual experience before I will believe fear mongers with none.
If you think it will hurt your car, then just throw the gas away in some
environmentally responsible way ... or give it to me ;-)

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Griss wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote

15 gallons of fresh and a gallon of 25:1. less oil than a can of

topoil.

Bill

"basskisser" wrote

sorry Bill, should have simpled it down for you. Two stroke motor
oil
is not the same as a "can of topoil". Fuel injectors aren't made to
have oil pushed through them, leaving deposits, eventually gumming
them up beyond working condition. Contact a representative of a
reputable company that manufactures fuel injectors, say, Bosch, and
see what they say. There are other negative factors involved also.
The
added exhaust particulates, when read by the O2 sensor, makes the
computer think there is a rich condition, then tries to lean it out.


This sounds like a reasonable caution to me and the first time I've
actually
had it explained to me. As I earlier posted, I've used old 50:1, at
a
rate
of a few gallons to a tank full a couple of times in my cars, some
carb.
some FI. It makes sense not to do it in the FI rigs (so far, no
prob,
but
...) , but what do you think about carbureted vehicles, at a
dilution
of,
say 5 gal 50:1 to 15 - 20 gal regular fuel?

Grissy



Oh please.

Dump it right in straight, fuel injected or carbed. Seriously... you
and the car will not even notice. Every FI car since my '85 Crown Vic
and every carbed car from 1973 up has injested whatever 50:1 I had
left
in the spring with no adverse results at all except they get rusty
with
12 years and 200,000 miles on them.

Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can
afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The
#2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on 100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:MMZac.10784
Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on 100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Oh, I see. Because you got away with it ONCE, and only for a short
duration, that qualifies it as a good idea to run pre-mix in a fuel
injected gasoline motor, huh?

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:MMZac.10784
Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on 100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Oh, I see. Because you got away with it ONCE, and only for a short
duration, that qualifies it as a good idea to run pre-mix in a fuel
injected gasoline motor, huh?

YUP!

"Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:MMZac.10784
Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on 100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Oh, I see. Because you got away with it ONCE, and only for a short
duration, that qualifies it as a good idea to run pre-mix in a fuel
injected gasoline motor, huh?

YUP!

That certainly tell a lot about your level of intelligence.
Would you also say that, because someone played Russian roulette once,
and didn't splatter his brains out, that Russian roulette is a good
idea?

I once bought a Mustang from a friend, it had a hole in the oil filter
from a rock. I didn't know it, and drove it home. When I got home,
almost all of the oil was gone, and I heard lifter noise. Put oil in
it, and everything was fine.
Using YOUR analogy, it should be perfectly o.k. to run that motor with
no more than one quart of oil, right?

LOL, you are the only person I know who would buy a car without noticing it
had an oil leak caused by a hole in the oil filter. You are too much.


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:MMZac.10784
Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel
engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now,
again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but
50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it
on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a
long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on
100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Oh, I see. Because you got away with it ONCE, and only for a short
duration, that qualifies it as a good idea to run pre-mix in a fuel
injected gasoline motor, huh?

YUP!

That certainly tell a lot about your level of intelligence.
Would you also say that, because someone played Russian roulette once,
and didn't splatter his brains out, that Russian roulette is a good
idea?

I once bought a Mustang from a friend, it had a hole in the oil filter
from a rock. I didn't know it, and drove it home. When I got home,
almost all of the oil was gone, and I heard lifter noise. Put oil in
it, and everything was fine.
Using YOUR analogy, it should be perfectly o.k. to run that motor with
no more than one quart of oil, right?