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"basskisser" wrote in message
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(Greg) wrote in message
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It's more viscous. Meaning, it isn't made to fit through the VERY tiny
openings in a typical fuel injector.

Who told you the orifice in a fuel injector was "tiny". It is actually
pretty
big and they manage fuel flow by pulsing it open and closed rapidly with
a
pulse width modulator. It is certainly as big as the idle screw passage
in any
outboard or even the main jet in a small outboard.
Guess again.

Guess again, my ass!!!! Go ask any manufacturer of fuel injectors if
they think it's prudent, and wise to run premix through there
injectors. Let me know what their technicians say.

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"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"trainfan1" wrote in message
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Griss wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote

15 gallons of fresh and a gallon of 25:1. less oil than a can of

topoil.

Bill

"basskisser" wrote

sorry Bill, should have simpled it down for you. Two stroke motor
oil
is not the same as a "can of topoil". Fuel injectors aren't made to
have oil pushed through them, leaving deposits, eventually gumming
them up beyond working condition. Contact a representative of a
reputable company that manufactures fuel injectors, say, Bosch, and
see what they say. There are other negative factors involved also.
The
added exhaust particulates, when read by the O2 sensor, makes the
computer think there is a rich condition, then tries to lean it out.


This sounds like a reasonable caution to me and the first time I've
actually
had it explained to me. As I earlier posted, I've used old 50:1, at
a
rate
of a few gallons to a tank full a couple of times in my cars, some
carb.
some FI. It makes sense not to do it in the FI rigs (so far, no
prob,
but
...) , but what do you think about carbureted vehicles, at a
dilution
of,
say 5 gal 50:1 to 15 - 20 gal regular fuel?

Grissy



Oh please.

Dump it right in straight, fuel injected or carbed. Seriously... you
and the car will not even notice. Every FI car since my '85 Crown Vic
and every carbed car from 1973 up has injested whatever 50:1 I had
left
in the spring with no adverse results at all except they get rusty
with
12 years and 200,000 miles on them.

Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can
afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The
#2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

So far this argument seems to be between people who THINK running premix in
their car will have dire circumstances for a number of irrational reasons and
people who have actually done it with no problems. I tend to believe the people
with actual experience before I will believe fear mongers with none.
If you think it will hurt your car, then just throw the gas away in some
environmentally responsible way ... or give it to me ;-)

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Griss wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote

15 gallons of fresh and a gallon of 25:1. less oil than a can of

topoil.

Bill

"basskisser" wrote

sorry Bill, should have simpled it down for you. Two stroke motor
oil
is not the same as a "can of topoil". Fuel injectors aren't made to
have oil pushed through them, leaving deposits, eventually gumming
them up beyond working condition. Contact a representative of a
reputable company that manufactures fuel injectors, say, Bosch, and
see what they say. There are other negative factors involved also.
The
added exhaust particulates, when read by the O2 sensor, makes the
computer think there is a rich condition, then tries to lean it out.


This sounds like a reasonable caution to me and the first time I've
actually
had it explained to me. As I earlier posted, I've used old 50:1, at
a
rate
of a few gallons to a tank full a couple of times in my cars, some
carb.
some FI. It makes sense not to do it in the FI rigs (so far, no
prob,
but
...) , but what do you think about carbureted vehicles, at a
dilution
of,
say 5 gal 50:1 to 15 - 20 gal regular fuel?

Grissy



Oh please.

Dump it right in straight, fuel injected or carbed. Seriously... you
and the car will not even notice. Every FI car since my '85 Crown Vic
and every carbed car from 1973 up has injested whatever 50:1 I had
left
in the spring with no adverse results at all except they get rusty
with
12 years and 200,000 miles on them.

Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can
afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The
#2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on 100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can
afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The
#2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.


Well Asskisser have you ever asked a Truck Driver if he ever put Gasoline in
his Diesel Fuel tank. I have and Also done this. I helps keep the injectors
clean and in the winter when the temperature gets real low it helps keep the
fuel from turning to gel. Yes turning to Gel. But I guess you all ready know
this....Because you think you know everything. Only in your own mind..
Running 50:1 gas and oil will not hurt anything in any Car or Truck with
Injectors, Throttle body or Carburetor) Oh how is Harry? Have you too been
doing any more backdoor stuff...

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Griss" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote

15 gallons of fresh and a gallon of 25:1. less oil than a can of
topoil.
Bill

"basskisser" wrote
sorry Bill, should have simpled it down for you. Two stroke motor oil
is not the same as a "can of topoil". Fuel injectors aren't made to
have oil pushed through them, leaving deposits, eventually gumming
them up beyond working condition. Contact a representative of a
reputable company that manufactures fuel injectors, say, Bosch, and
see what they say. There are other negative factors involved also. The
added exhaust particulates, when read by the O2 sensor, makes the
computer think there is a rich condition, then tries to lean it out.

This sounds like a reasonable caution to me and the first time I've
actually
had it explained to me. As I earlier posted, I've used old 50:1, at a
rate
of a few gallons to a tank full a couple of times in my cars, some carb.
some FI. It makes sense not to do it in the FI rigs (so far, no prob,
but
...) , but what do you think about carbureted vehicles, at a dilution
of,
say 5 gal 50:1 to 15 - 20 gal regular fuel?

Grissy

Shouldn't be a problem in a carb engine. Again, it PROBABLY wouldn't
hurt a FI engine, either, but it CAN.

Don't listen to asskisser just look at his Name ASSKISSER. Do I need to say
more?

Bill wrote:

Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can

afford

better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The

#2

diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.



Well Asskisser have you ever asked a Truck Driver if he ever put Gasoline in
his Diesel Fuel tank. I have and Also done this.=

At every fill-up, one presumes, and you get what, one engine to the
tankful?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill wrote:

Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can

afford

better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The

#2

diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.



Well Asskisser have you ever asked a Truck Driver if he ever put
Gasoline in
his Diesel Fuel tank. I have and Also done this.=

At every fill-up, one presumes, and you get what, one engine to the
tankful?

Actually the engine will blow up with 100% gasoline, but in very cold areas,
the truckers do add gas to the diesel.
Bill

"Bill" wrote in message ...
Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can
afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil. The
#2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.


Well Asskisser have you ever asked a Truck Driver if he ever put Gasoline in
his Diesel Fuel tank. I have and Also done this. I helps keep the injectors
clean and in the winter when the temperature gets real low it helps keep the
fuel from turning to gel. Yes turning to Gel. But I guess you all ready know
this....Because you think you know everything. Only in your own mind..
Running 50:1 gas and oil will not hurt anything in any Car or Truck with
Injectors, Throttle body or Carburetor) Oh how is Harry? Have you too been
doing any more backdoor stuff...

What to hell does that have to do with running pre-mix through
injectors that were made for gasoline???? Now, I've been around trucks
all of my life. All four of my cousins, who lived across the street
were truck drivers. In western NY. It gets very cold there, so, yes, I
already know this! Now, how to hell does putting a little gasoline in
diesel fuel compare to running pre-mix through fuel injectors that
were made for gasoline ONLY???

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:MMZac.10784
Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on 100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Oh, I see. Because you got away with it ONCE, and only for a short
duration, that qualifies it as a good idea to run pre-mix in a fuel
injected gasoline motor, huh?