thanks gary
I just got back from looking under and around the boat. It is in
quincy. it has 2 depth finders and one has a transom mount and I am
not sure but think that the other is thru hull. there is two things
off of the transom, one black box thing (garmin transducer)and another
clear or white plastic finger (maybe that is for the built in
speedometer) hee hee- the days before GPS. how funny
I think that we would have no problem working on the boat but I can
ask just to be sure. no one is around this week as they are moving
boats for the boats show

talk to you soon

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:02:21 +0000, WRH wrote:

IMOHO - Based on my experience with both, I would find out why the Garmin
isn't working properly. I would rather have a cheap Garmin than an expensive
Huminbird. Check your cable for frays/breaks but most importantly, check
your transducer installation. If you don't have a manual , you can probably
get it at http://www.garmin.com

While I don't agree about the brand issue (I have two Humminbirds and they
both work great), I WOULD agree that you should find out why your existing
setup isn't working. Most "mid to high speed" problems are associated with
the transducer, and all the sounders have basically the same ones. I'd
hate to put out $400 and end up with the same problem...

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:00:35 +0000, FishFan wrote:


I have a Garmin that worked fine at speed for awhile but then began cutting out
at planing speed. Turns out the cheap plastic release mechanism (and that's
making it sound more complex then it is)that allows the transducer to swing up
if you hit something was relasing with very little load - like the load applied
at planing speeds.

That's EXACTLY what happened to the transom-mount Humminbird on my Campion!
Sounds like a common problem...

Lloyd Sumpter
(previously) "Valkyrie" Campion 18

Most transducers are made by the same company. Mine has an adjustment to
alter the force needed to break it loose. Have you checked if there's an
adjustment?


"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:00:35 +0000, FishFan wrote:


I have a Garmin that worked fine at speed for awhile but then began
cutting out
at planing speed. Turns out the cheap plastic release mechanism (and
that's
making it sound more complex then it is)that allows the transducer to
swing up
if you hit something was relasing with very little load - like the load
applied
at planing speeds.

That's EXACTLY what happened to the transom-mount Humminbird on my
Campion!
Sounds like a common problem...

Lloyd Sumpter
(previously) "Valkyrie" Campion 18

"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message I
have a Garmin GPS/Sounder and a small round in-dash depth finder.


The built in round one hardly works and the Garmen works poorly at mid
to high speeds.

First off, I would check the built in one carefully. Many of these in dash
units have a sensitivity adjustment, which is often a small screw type knob
in the back. It may just be that yours needs a little tweak. If you tell
us the make and model we might be able to help you out.

If you can get to the back of the dash, look at the depth sounder and see if
there is a small screw driver slot, possibly marked "sensitivity". Note
where it is adjusted now, in case you want to put it back.

If the sensitivity is too low it will have trouble getting any reading at
all in deeper water. If the sensitivity is too high, it will get false
readings, especially in shallow water. Be careful that the unit is not
indicating twice or three times the actual depth. when you are in very
shallow water.

As for operating poorly at speed, this is usually either due to
sound/vibration from the engine interferring with the sounder or water
turbulence creating air bubbles under the transducer. The transducer should
be mounted off to one side of the keel and NOT behind any thru hull
fittings.


My mechanic says that they all do that, but he suggest
replacing the in-dash one with a new one and new transducer, perhaps a
hummingbird. "Total cost for parts and labor around $400."

What do you poeple think?

I think that your could do this yourself and save $250.

Why do you need two depth sounders anyway?


Rod

" Thanks everyone, you guys are great
I will have to wait a little longer to find out who makes the depth
finder that is built into the dash. The boat is still shrinkwrapped
and as much as I hate to admit it, winter is far from over in Boston.
When I can get back into the boat, I will check the sensitivity of the
in-dash. Also I suspect that the Garmin needs the transducer to be
adjusted, Maybe there are even barnicles on it. I will check that out.
The reason that I have 2 depth finders is that the boat had one (
which did not work well) and I brought the Garmin GPS/Depth finder
over from a previous boat. ( needed a GPS)
I also read on the Garmin site that 2 depth finders could interfere
with each other dependeing on the frequency of the 2. (As a guy who
makes a living working with wireless microphones for musicals, I am
all too aware of conflicting frequency issues)
Again, I will have to wait a little while before I remove the shrink
wrap to find out what the in dash one is, and then figure out what
it's frequency is.
thanks again
please send more if you think of anything

PS Boy it is great to be thinking of boat problems again!