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Wilko January 18th 05 09:35 PM



riverman wrote:

"Wilko" wrote in message
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This is a 6'7" kayak, which I've been paddling for the past year and a
half:

http://wilko.webzone.ru/ftw-1.jpg



I think you could lose a little mass off your paddle shaft, there, buddy!


But that's my heavy duty bent shaft, it's supposed to be heavier! Notice
the specially made for size forked end?


--
Wilko van den Bergh wilko(a t)dse(d o t)nl
Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.---
http://wilko.webzone.ru/


Wilko January 18th 05 09:43 PM

Courtney wrote:

I'm not Wilko but I can help with some insight in this area since I have
been in the paddling industry for some time. Part of that time I repped for
a company that sold wet suits along with many other things. The differences
between one wet suit from another if very big. You can get a wide variety
of thickness so one can use a suit on the summer and another can use one
diving is Alaskan waters. The same goes for hoods, booties, socks and
gloves. Some suite can get so thick that they are not good to use for
paddling since paddlers need good range of motion. This is the simple
explanation. I hope it helped.


You're not me? So much for me being on two continents at the same time! ;-)

Seriously though, you said it much better than I could have. Thank you
for the explanation!

--
Wilko van den Bergh wilko(a t)dse(d o t)nl
Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.---
http://wilko.webzone.ru/


Rick January 19th 05 02:03 AM

Bryan wrote:

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If I had a buck for every idiot I've seen out paddling on water
in the 40's in nothing
more than jeans or shorts and a T-shirt, I could retire tomorrow. All
too often, their attitude is just like that of a couple we spoke with
that was out in a tandem so dressed, with no PFD's or spray skirts. When
we explained the dangers to them, their response was "Well, we weren't
planning on going in the water." Duh!


Whenever I go out with an inexperienced paddler, I wrap them in their
immersion gear and we go swimming. I tell this, this is "the worst thing
that will happen to you all day." Most act chilled for a few moments and
then, as the water stops circulating in the wetsuit, are quite happy.
Generally, this keeps them from adopting that particular attitude (which
is probably just as common amongst those who don't paddle with me).


Rick

Rick January 19th 05 02:09 AM

Steve Cramer wrote:

....stuff deleted

Maybe Cousteau invented wetsuits? Not according to this, although it
does credit him with inventing the SCUBA tank.
http://www.divinghistory.com/historyofthewetsuit.htm


I read his book. His claim was that he invented the regulator. The tank
was available (since there were already needs for compressed air and
tanks were quite available after WWII). I think there is some doubt
whether he, or his buddy (Dumas?), who actually invented the regulator,
even.

Still, interesting character, to say the least. Watching him evolve from
a callous intruder into the depths into one of its greatest caretakers
was interesting, to say the least.

Rick

Tinkerntom January 19th 05 07:25 AM


Rick wrote:
Bryan wrote:

...stuff deleted

If I had a buck for every idiot I've seen out paddling on water
in the 40's in nothing
more than jeans or shorts and a T-shirt, I could retire tomorrow.

All
too often, their attitude is just like that of a couple we spoke

with
that was out in a tandem so dressed, with no PFD's or spray skirts.

When
we explained the dangers to them, their response was "Well, we

weren't
planning on going in the water." Duh!


Whenever I go out with an inexperienced paddler, I wrap them in their


immersion gear and we go swimming. I tell this, this is "the worst

thing
that will happen to you all day." Most act chilled for a few moments

and
then, as the water stops circulating in the wetsuit, are quite happy.


Generally, this keeps them from adopting that particular attitude

(which
is probably just as common amongst those who don't paddle with me).


Rick


It's a rude wakeup call, but it is alot easier to answer the phone when
we're at the start of a paddle, than when were way out, and half way
there! Once we do this our inexperience resume is considerably reduced,
and our experience resume is seriously increased. That is the part of
paddling that separates the men and boys. Alot of folks may think that
going out to whale watch, etc. is the purpose, but I suspect that we
have to be willing to develope a more itimate relationship with the
water itself. Most folks are not willing to pay their dues, and decide
that paddling is not for them. Enjoying the total experience! TnT


Tinkerntom January 19th 05 10:45 AM

Keenan Wellar wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...
Keenan Wellar wrote:
in article ,

Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 1/17/05 4:07 PM:

.... snip

As for me, I continue to move on, to enjoy posting here and else
where, and to generally enjoy the whole paddling and usenet

experience.
Have a good life Keenan.
Thankyou and Good bye, Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it!


Goodbye! Live life Tinkerntom! As less of an asshole if possible!


Just for you Keenan, I will definitely work on the last! Shalom
Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Live, Live it!


Tinkerntom January 19th 05 10:49 AM

Keenan Wellar wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
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Keenan Wellar wrote:
in article ,

Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 1/17/05 4:07 PM:

.... snip

As for me, I continue to move on, to enjoy posting here and else
where, and to generally enjoy the whole paddling and usenet

experience.
Have a good life Keenan.
Thankyou and Good bye, Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it!


Goodbye! Live life Tinkerntom! As less of an asshole if possible!


Just for you Keenan, I will definitely work on the last! Shalom
Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it!


Keenan Wellar January 19th 05 03:08 PM


"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...
Keenan Wellar wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...
Keenan Wellar wrote:
in article ,
Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 1/17/05 4:07 PM:

... snip

As for me, I continue to move on, to enjoy posting here and else
where, and to generally enjoy the whole paddling and usenet

experience.
Have a good life Keenan.
Thankyou and Good bye, Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it!


Goodbye! Live life Tinkerntom! As less of an asshole if possible!


Just for you Keenan, I will definitely work on the last! Shalom
Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Live, Live it!


Good luck! You will need it!



Keenan Wellar January 19th 05 03:08 PM


"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...
Keenan Wellar wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...
Keenan Wellar wrote:
in article ,
Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 1/17/05 4:07 PM:

... snip

As for me, I continue to move on, to enjoy posting here and else
where, and to generally enjoy the whole paddling and usenet

experience.
Have a good life Keenan.
Thankyou and Good bye, Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it!


Goodbye! Live life Tinkerntom! As less of an asshole if possible!


Just for you Keenan, I will definitely work on the last! Shalom
Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it!


Actually, you should also work on not posting things twice!



Tinkerntom January 19th 05 04:02 PM

Well, not just for you, I am working on that. There seems to be some
problem with Google and my server. sometimes I post and it kicks thing
back out to me, and others it just post fine. So I apologize for
another annoyance to you. If there is anything else please feel free to
let me know! TnT



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