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Galen Hekhuis wrote:
On 14 Jan 2005 18:04:32 -0800, "Tinkerntom" wrote: Brian and Wilko, you both represent alot of diverse paddling experience. I found this article which was originally released as a white page news brief by Bare, significant for the kayaking community. http://tinyurl.com/6wozp ... Am I alone in thinking that the drysuits worn for diving are just a tad different than those worn paddling? There is a huge difference, which I've detailed in my reply to Tinkertom's post. |
I suppose for those of you who struggle with this dilemna, It becomes
a function of whether you are wearing street clothes or paddle skirt, which side is the front and which the back. If you went in the street side door with paddle skirt on the neighbors may talk. If you go in shore side door with street clothes on us paddlers will definitely talk. But then all that depends on whether you are going in or coming out. How do you manage such a demanding and confusing social agenda? TnT |
Melissa wrote:
When it's not so cold, I also wear my D2 equipment wetsuit with added knee protection pads: http://wilko.webzone.ru/soc-a12.jpg Wow! That boat looks so small I wonder how you fold your legs into it! And what do you do with your feet?! :-) If I'm not mistaken, that's a tandem. I guess for people who paddle 18 foot boats, anything under 14 feet looks small, eh? Oh, and I think the answer to what you do with your feet is to wrap them around the bum of the guy in front, to keep both of you a little warmer. -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA |
Melissa wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Steve Cramer, On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:40:47 -0500, you wrote: If I'm not mistaken, that's a tandem. I guess for people who paddle 18 foot boats, anything under 14 feet looks small, eh? Oops! I quoted the wrong picture link. I was referring to this one: http://wilko.webzone.ru/soc-04.jpg Now that is a short boat, although by modern standards, it's not really so short. But the fact that half of Wilko is in there is amazing. -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA |
Brian Nystrom wrote:
Tinkerntom wrote: Brian and Wilko, you both represent alot of diverse paddling experience. I found this article which was originally released as a white page news brief by Bare, significant for the kayaking community. http://tinyurl.com/6wozp There's one word for the dry suit portion of this article. That word is "bull****". Ladner claims Jacques Cousteau invented neoprene "after the second world war." That would probably come as a surprise to Arnold Collins and Wallace Carothers, whom Dupont says invented the stuff in 1930. And Dupont considers in synthetic rubber, not plastic. Maybe Cousteau invented wetsuits? Not according to this, although it does credit him with inventing the SCUBA tank. http://www.divinghistory.com/historyofthewetsuit.htm -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA |
I suppose for those of you who struggle with this dilemna, It becomes a
function of whether you are wearing street clothes or paddle skirt, which side is the front and which the back. If you went in the street side door with paddle skirt on the neighbors may talk. If you go in shore side door with street clothes on us paddlers will definitely talk. But then all that depends on whether you are going in or coming out. How do you manage such a demanding and confusing social agenda? However upon further consideration, I realize that kayakers may be able to handle this dilemna better than most, since ususally we don't know whether we are coming or going, and which side is up or down changes rapidly as well at times. So I propose that only kayakers, and maybe a few canoers, be allowed to have homes along the waterfront. We would sure not want all those others walking around confused about where the front door is! TnT |
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wrote on 1/17/05 4:47 PM: Keenan Wellar wrote in : in article , Tinkerntom at wrote on 1/16/05 7:06 PM: Granted, and hopefully they listen to the advise, as Sparks apparent has. I am not saying avoid cold, but avoid stupid! To quote Forrest Gump, " Stupid is, as stupid does!" I love being a newbie, because as a newbie, I can't make any mistakes except not asking questions. The problem is that once I ask the questions, and then go out and get some experience, I am no longer just a newbie. At best I can be a wiser newbie, maybe a stupid newbie, and hopefully not a dead newbie! The worst scenario, is a bunch of newbies going off and doing the newbie thing, and getting a dose of reality altogether when they were altogether unprepared for that reality. TnT Questions: How many people die each year while sea kayaking? Define sea kayaking? Can we go with any kayaking that is not whitewater kayaking? What percentage of those are actually beginners? It seems that every year around March-April there are several stories posted here about beginners that have gone out when the air temperatures warm up but the water is still cold. Typically it's the same story...no PFD and/or appropriate clothing for immersion. Last year a couple of guys went out on our local lake in a canoe and capsized about 400' from shore. The water temperature on the lake at the time was in the low 40's. They didn't have PFDs and were wearing jeans and t-shirts. They, were, however fortunate that a cottage owner saw them go over, jumped in a power boat and went out to rescue them. I have no doubt whatsoever that they would have died if the cottage owner had not seen them capsize. Stories are stories...I'd curious to know the answer to the question. I've heard those same stories myself. |
Keenan Wellar wrote:
in article , Tinkerntom at wrote on 1/17/05 4:07 PM: Last time things got a little intense and at your expense. LOL! Instense? Compared to what? At my expense? Heehee. I do appreciate your sense of humour. Or ability to self-delude. Anyway, whichever! As I recall, our previous interactions concluded shortly after you engaged in a healthy round of cyberstalking, and then posted some links that you thought gave you some sort of justification for behaving like an arse. Remember when you were rambling on about how you had searched the internet for information about me and then you posted these links in a misguided attempt to prove something that perhaps only you can ever understand? http://www.geocities.com/flamingpoul...kmanonlost.jpg http://www.geocities.com/flamingpoul...manonlost2.jpg If that was all at MY expense, well, I guess you have a different understanding of revenues and expenses! TnT wrote: Whatever you say Keenan, at least you acknowledge that it was "a healthy round." As a newbie poster I learned a lot of what not to do, and since can hardly be accused of further grievances to you or anyone else. I spent a good bit of time reading some recommended usenet rules by Wilko and Riverman, and familiarizing myself with the group dynamic, and feel that I have mended my ways. I apologize that I had to learn at your expense. You are a seasoned traveller on the net, and if I offended you, and this was the first time - I apologize, but it won't be the last that you will be offended by someone. I expected, that you should be able to handle the discomfort, and I hope that given time you will recover. If your above creative license makes you feel better, Good! I've heard that screaming into a pillow helps also, or two aspirin. I guess I moved on, and I doubt that anyone else really cared to hear anymore about it, since noone else involved seems to feel it necessary to bring it up. You obviously still get some juice out of it, and all I can say then is whose problem is that now. I detect that thou dosth protest to much! I have been keeping my distance from you and apparently that may still be the best policy. As for me, I continue to move on, to enjoy posting here and else where, and to generally enjoy the whole paddling and usenet experience. Have a good life Keenan. Thankyou and Good bye, Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it! |
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