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The Idiot Speaketh II
On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: - show quoted text - Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp saying **** the working man, I have mine. ......... Maher was really lame in this one.* He sounds really desperate to me... The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him. Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions, and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to admire. Trump is focusing on the future, not the past. The immediate media reactions to the summit meeting is extremely interesting to me. I am far from being an expert in these matters but one thing really struck me based on my limited experience in business meetings and/or negotiations with representatives with some Asian companies. Watching MSNBC this morning, all the discussion is about how "loose" and undefined the agreement Trump and Kim Jong Un signed. They are focusing on the lack of specifics and timing of North Korea's actions, dissecting the agreement. Americans tend to want to get right down to the nuts and bolts of a contract and hammer out all the terms and conditions so they can be documented in a legal document in the form of a contract, and the faster it can be done, the better. The culture in Asian countries ... and my experience is limited to Japan and China ... is very different. Much more time is spent initially in getting to know each other down to some of the personal and family aspects of the people involved in the project. I remember back in the early 80's the company I worked for at the time was entering into a major contract with a company in Japan. The Japanese company (Ricoh) sent a delegation of engineering types, project managers and contract specialists to spend a week at the company I worked at to work out the contract. The owner of my company hired a consultant to come in and brief all of us who would be involved in the discussions regarding how the Japanese business culture worked and what to expect. The meetings went exactly as he described with pretty much the whole first day being spent on who we all were, our families, our hobbies and personal interests, etc. Not a peep about the project until after a day or more of personal interaction, dinners and social meetings in the evenings. Only after all that did we get down to discussing the project. It was a very similar experience when I went to China in 1986. Met with several companies representing different industries over the course of a week and a half. Very little was discussed about specific applications for the technology my company represented. It was more of a personal "interview" and, in the case of China, was very ceremonial. Local political leaders often attended the meetings and much time was spent with them honoring their "guests" (me and another guy who went with me) at nightly banquets given in our honor. It was only after all this personal and ceremonial meetings that we actually got down to discussing the technical and contractual issues. The purpose, I've been told, is to develop mutual respect and trust so that in the execution of the contract, details that were not documented or overlooked could be worked out in a trusting and mutually respectful manner. I don't know if the North Korean culture is similar (or even if it still exists in Japan and China anymore) but if so, I can understand how Trump is approaching this. It's too complicated to document every single nut and bolt of the intention of an agreement. Plus, the "contract" hasn't even been developed yet. The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every nut and bolt. |
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The Idiot Speaketh II
On 6/12/18 7:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: - show quoted text - Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp saying **** the working man, I have mine. ......... Maher was really lame in this one.* He sounds really desperate to me... The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him. Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions, and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to admire. Trump is focusing on the future, not the past. The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every nut and bolt. The quotes I heard from the joint statement indicated they worked out nothing at all. I suppose it is both ironic and telling that Trump can't get along with our long-time allies but admires Kim Jung Un. Here's something for Trump to consider...he'll get nowhere with the North Koreans without the help of our allies. But, isn't it great Trump is ****ting on Canada? USA USA USA. |
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The Idiot Speaketh II
On 6/12/2018 7:31 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/12/18 7:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: - show quoted text - Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp saying **** the working man, I have mine. ......... Maher was really lame in this one.* He sounds really desperate to me... The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him. Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions, and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to admire. Trump is focusing on the future, not the past. The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every nut and bolt. The quotes I heard from the joint statement indicated they worked out nothing at all. I suppose it is both ironic and telling that Trump can't get along with our long-time allies but admires Kim Jung Un. Here's something for Trump to consider...he'll get nowhere with the North Koreans without the help of our allies. But, isn't it great Trump is ****ting on Canada? USA USA USA. You're hopeless Harry. But that's ok. Everything will work out just fine. |
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#4
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The Idiot Speaketh II
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 6/12/2018 7:31 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/12/18 7:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: - show quoted text - Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp saying **** the working man, I have mine. ......... Maher was really lame in this one. He sounds really desperate to me... The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him. Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions, and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to admire. Trump is focusing on the future, not the past. The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every nut and bolt. The quotes I heard from the joint statement indicated they worked out nothing at all. I suppose it is both ironic and telling that Trump can't get along with our long-time allies but admires Kim Jung Un. Here's something for Trump to consider...he'll get nowhere with the North Koreans without the help of our allies. But, isn't it great Trump is ****ting on Canada? USA USA USA. You're hopeless Harry. But that's ok. Everything will work out just fine. That's what Fat Harry and ilk are afraid of. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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#5
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The Idiot Speaketh II
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 6/12/18 7:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: - show quoted text - Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp saying **** the working man, I have mine. ......... Maher was really lame in this one. He sounds really desperate to me... The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him. Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions, and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to admire. Trump is focusing on the future, not the past. The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every nut and bolt. The quotes I heard from the joint statement indicated they worked out nothing at all. I suppose it is both ironic and telling that Trump can't get along with our long-time allies but admires Kim Jung Un. Here's something for Trump to consider...he'll get nowhere with the North Koreans without the help of our allies. But, isn't it great Trump is ****ting on Canada? USA USA USA. Why bother responding to Luddite if you didn't understand what he alluded to. Morons like you are extremely difficult to communicate with. I don't know why he continues to try. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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The Idiot Speaketh II
On 6/12/18 7:59 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 6/12/18 7:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: - show quoted text - Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp saying **** the working man, I have mine. ......... Maher was really lame in this one. He sounds really desperate to me... The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him. Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions, and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to admire. Trump is focusing on the future, not the past. The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every nut and bolt. The quotes I heard from the joint statement indicated they worked out nothing at all. I suppose it is both ironic and telling that Trump can't get along with our long-time allies but admires Kim Jung Un. Here's something for Trump to consider...he'll get nowhere with the North Koreans without the help of our allies. But, isn't it great Trump is ****ting on Canada? USA USA USA. Why bother responding to Luddite if you didn't understand what he alluded to. Morons like you are extremely difficult to communicate with. I don't know why he continues to try. I love it when the title of a thread so aptly describes you and your responses here. |
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The Idiot Speaketh II
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/12/18 7:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: - show quoted text - Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp saying **** the working man, I have mine. ......... Maher was really lame in this one.* He sounds really desperate to me... The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him. Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions, and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to admire. Trump is focusing on the future, not the past. The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every nut and bolt. The quotes I heard from the joint statement indicated they worked out nothing at all. I suppose it is both ironic and telling that Trump can't get along with our long-time allies but admires Kim Jung Un. Here's something for Trump to consider...he'll get nowhere with the North Koreans without the help of our allies. But, isn't it great Trump is ****ting on Canada? USA USA USA. Where have the administrations of the last 65 years gotten? |
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The Idiot Speaketh II
On 6/12/18 11:18 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/12/18 7:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: - show quoted text - Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp saying **** the working man, I have mine. ......... Maher was really lame in this one.* He sounds really desperate to me... The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him. Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions, and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to admire. Trump is focusing on the future, not the past. The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every nut and bolt. The quotes I heard from the joint statement indicated they worked out nothing at all. I suppose it is both ironic and telling that Trump can't get along with our long-time allies but admires Kim Jung Un. Here's something for Trump to consider...he'll get nowhere with the North Koreans without the help of our allies. But, isn't it great Trump is ****ting on Canada? USA USA USA. Where have the administrations of the last 65 years gotten? I wonder if Trump is aware that Kim had his uncle Jang Song-thaek killed and his half-bro Kim Jong-nam assassinated, or that Kim and his regime are considered among the worst, if not the worst, violators of human rights in the world. And if he is aware of this, I wonder if Trump admires Kim for that. |
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The Idiot Speaketh II
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/12/18 11:18 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/12/18 7:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: - show quoted text - Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp saying **** the working man, I have mine. ......... Maher was really lame in this one.* He sounds really desperate to me... The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him. Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions, and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to admire. Trump is focusing on the future, not the past. The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every nut and bolt. The quotes I heard from the joint statement indicated they worked out nothing at all. I suppose it is both ironic and telling that Trump can't get along with our long-time allies but admires Kim Jung Un. Here's something for Trump to consider...he'll get nowhere with the North Koreans without the help of our allies. But, isn't it great Trump is ****ting on Canada? USA USA USA. Where have the administrations of the last 65 years gotten? I wonder if Trump is aware that Kim had his uncle Jang Song-thaek killed and his half-bro Kim Jong-nam assassinated, or that Kim and his regime are considered among the worst, if not the worst, violators of human rights in the world. And if he is aware of this, I wonder if Trump admires Kim for that. Another brain fart by Harry. |
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