On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:55:30 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:47:08 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 11:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 11:35 AM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 14:45:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:



Why didn’t President ******** simply sign an Exec Order mandating
broadcast
of the game?*

He could have just stroked a check to pay those AFN people necessary
to get that out on the air. I doubt it would take more than a few
dozen people for a day or two (who are not already called essential
and working anyway). He paid more than that to cut the grass at Mar a
Lago this week


I knew two pro football players pretty well. One was a year ahead of me
at my high school and the other I met as an adult. The latter was a
neighbor of a close friend. One was a halfback and the other was a
linebacker, and both were stars. In any case, both were glad to get out
of the game with their brains intact and their bodies in reasonably
decent shape. The funny thing is the high school fella was a terrific
basketball player, too, and he might have had a longer and safer career
in the NBA.

Another great player I did get to see play in college was Gale Sayers.
He had a great but short career in the NFL, got out, had several
successful careers in sports and business but I read recently he is
suffering from dementia, probably as a result of the head injuries he
suffered playing pro football.

I wonder how much longer the NFL will be allowed, what with the
seriousness and extent of the brain injuries.


The NFL has come a long way with both protective gear, severe penalties
for unnecessary hits or roughness and mandatory concussion protocols.

The days of "Mean Joe Greene" and players like him are over.


I think they should remove all the protective gear - rugby style. You don't hear much about
concussion problems with rugby players.

Then it would be soccer and nobody would watch. They used to admit the
NFL was all about the "big hits".

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

A co-worker's son was set to get a full-ride scholarship playing rugby. He was a star, and played on the "all star" team that played across the pond several times. He ended up hurting his knee and when it all shook out, it turned out he had been playing with a concussion for a year or so.

His "career" is now over, and after concussion rehab he's getting his academic and social capabilities back together, and going to college.

Sorry to hear about that. Injuries like that happen in soccer also, but not nearly as frequently as
with our style football. From what I've seen and read, the incidence of concussions among rugby
players is less than that of football players. Spinal injuries from the scrums is a big concern. Our
football doesn't have the scrums.

On 1/21/2018 4:23 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:55:30 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:47:08 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 11:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 11:35 AM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 14:45:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:



Why didn’t President ******** simply sign an Exec Order mandating
broadcast
of the game?Â*

He could have just stroked a check to pay those AFN people necessary
to get that out on the air. I doubt it would take more than a few
dozen people for a day or two (who are not already called essential
and working anyway). He paid more than that to cut the grass at Mar a
Lago this week


I knew two pro football players pretty well. One was a year ahead of me
at my high school and the other I met as an adult. The latter was a
neighbor of a close friend. One was a halfback and the other was a
linebacker, and both were stars. In any case, both were glad to get out
of the game with their brains intact and their bodies in reasonably
decent shape. The funny thing is the high school fella was a terrific
basketball player, too, and he might have had a longer and safer career
in the NBA.

Another great player I did get to see play in college was Gale Sayers.
He had a great but short career in the NFL, got out, had several
successful careers in sports and business but I read recently he is
suffering from dementia, probably as a result of the head injuries he
suffered playing pro football.

I wonder how much longer the NFL will be allowed, what with the
seriousness and extent of the brain injuries.


The NFL has come a long way with both protective gear, severe penalties
for unnecessary hits or roughness and mandatory concussion protocols.

The days of "Mean Joe Greene" and players like him are over.


I think they should remove all the protective gear - rugby style. You don't hear much about
concussion problems with rugby players.

Then it would be soccer and nobody would watch. They used to admit the
NFL was all about the "big hits".

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

A co-worker's son was set to get a full-ride scholarship playing rugby. He was a star, and played on the "all star" team that played across the pond several times. He ended up hurting his knee and when it all shook out, it turned out he had been playing with a concussion for a year or so.

His "career" is now over, and after concussion rehab he's getting his academic and social capabilities back together, and going to college.

Sorry to hear about that. Injuries like that happen in soccer also, but not nearly as frequently as
with our style football. From what I've seen and read, the incidence of concussions among rugby
players is less than that of football players. Spinal injuries from the scrums is a big concern. Our
football doesn't have the scrums.



Rugby will never be popular here. Not enough time outs for commercials.

On Sunday, 21 January 2018 16:21:10 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:35:13 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/21/18 1:58 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 1:11 PM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 16:32:18 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 09:39:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


And what could be more important than football? ?


It's ok if you'd rather read Moby Dick for the 18th time instead. Most
of us got it the first time around.

Another of your weird personality quirks. If you don't like something,
nobody should, huh?

Moby Dick? Jesus what a boring ****ing book. Melville could have
trimmed off about 400 pages and had a gripping novel.
I got it right away. Life on a whaling ship was miserable. We didn't
need to share that misery for almost 800 pages to read the story.
Beside that, if you are already bored at sea, the last thing I want to
read is a book about being bored at sea. I thought the GM 3&2 book was
more interesting. ;-)


Ahhh...you thought the book was about life aboard a whaling ship, but that
is only the back page story, as it were. I’m not surprised you actually
didn’t get it.

No it was the "back 400 pages", unless you were just speed reading
over that like you skim the notes you respond to here.
Like I said at 250-300 pages it would have been a gripping story. The
man needed an editor.


My copy of Anna Karenina runs about 700 pages. You probably shouldn't
read Tolstoy.


As a statement I read onetime about Russian y would never read another one.
What is it about Russian novels that when you get to liking a character
they kill them off. Okay to kill a few but all of them? To depressing.



Russia and environs was and is a pretty dark, lousy place, where awful
things happened to people, and I don't mean because of the weather,
although that is pretty grim in much of the country, too. Russian
literature reflects Russian history, culture, class warfare, et cetera.
Life was pretty damned awful for ethnics living in Lithuania, Moldova,
Ukraine, Belarus, et cetera. My parents, some of my grandparents, and
various aunts and uncles and great aunts and uncles spoke Russian,
Polish, and German and so I learned Russian as a second language when I
was growing up. I forced myself to read Dr. Zhivago in Russian when I
was a young teenager, and it wasn't easy. I wouldn't attempt to read
Tolstoy in Russian. I remember with Zhivago I had to create a character
cheat sheet so I could try to recall who was who. Years later, I read
the novel in English and I enjoyed it. The movie romanticized the novel
and the times, but I liked it. The literary movie Russia House with Sean
Connery presents Russia in a more modern but still very dark light.

Decades ago, I helped promote a gallery show of contemporary Russian art
for Woodward & Lothrop, a DC department store chain now gone. The art
was so-so, but the story of many of the Soviet-era artists was grim,
something the Russian cultural attaches tried to conceal. It was a weird
time in the 1970s.



In case no one else says it, "Wow, Harry!"

'ell Johnny, is instigating and agitating your only purpose here?

True North wrote:
On Sunday, 21 January 2018 16:21:10 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:35:13 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/21/18 1:58 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 1:11 PM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 16:32:18 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 09:39:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


And what could be more important than football? ?


It's ok if you'd rather read Moby Dick for the 18th time instead. Most
of us got it the first time around.

Another of your weird personality quirks. If you don't like something,
nobody should, huh?

Moby Dick? Jesus what a boring ****ing book. Melville could have
trimmed off about 400 pages and had a gripping novel.
I got it right away. Life on a whaling ship was miserable. We didn't
need to share that misery for almost 800 pages to read the story.
Beside that, if you are already bored at sea, the last thing I want to
read is a book about being bored at sea. I thought the GM 3&2 book was
more interesting. ;-)


Ahhh...you thought the book was about life aboard a whaling ship, but that
is only the back page story, as it were. I’m not surprised you actually
didn’t get it.

No it was the "back 400 pages", unless you were just speed reading
over that like you skim the notes you respond to here.
Like I said at 250-300 pages it would have been a gripping story. The
man needed an editor.


My copy of Anna Karenina runs about 700 pages. You probably shouldn't
read Tolstoy.


As a statement I read onetime about Russian y would never read another one.
What is it about Russian novels that when you get to liking a character
they kill them off. Okay to kill a few but all of them? To depressing.



Russia and environs was and is a pretty dark, lousy place, where awful
things happened to people, and I don't mean because of the weather,
although that is pretty grim in much of the country, too. Russian
literature reflects Russian history, culture, class warfare, et cetera.
Life was pretty damned awful for ethnics living in Lithuania, Moldova,
Ukraine, Belarus, et cetera. My parents, some of my grandparents, and
various aunts and uncles and great aunts and uncles spoke Russian,
Polish, and German and so I learned Russian as a second language when I
was growing up. I forced myself to read Dr. Zhivago in Russian when I
was a young teenager, and it wasn't easy. I wouldn't attempt to read
Tolstoy in Russian. I remember with Zhivago I had to create a character
cheat sheet so I could try to recall who was who. Years later, I read
the novel in English and I enjoyed it. The movie romanticized the novel
and the times, but I liked it. The literary movie Russia House with Sean
Connery presents Russia in a more modern but still very dark light.

Decades ago, I helped promote a gallery show of contemporary Russian art
for Woodward & Lothrop, a DC department store chain now gone. The art
was so-so, but the story of many of the Soviet-era artists was grim,
something the Russian cultural attaches tried to conceal. It was a weird
time in the 1970s.



In case no one else says it, "Wow, Harry!"

'ell Johnny, is instigating and agitating your only purpose here?


Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner.

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:28:51 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 4:23 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:55:30 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:47:08 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 11:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 11:35 AM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 14:45:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:



Why didn’t President ******** simply sign an Exec Order mandating
broadcast
of the game?*

He could have just stroked a check to pay those AFN people necessary
to get that out on the air. I doubt it would take more than a few
dozen people for a day or two (who are not already called essential
and working anyway). He paid more than that to cut the grass at Mar a
Lago this week


I knew two pro football players pretty well. One was a year ahead of me
at my high school and the other I met as an adult. The latter was a
neighbor of a close friend. One was a halfback and the other was a
linebacker, and both were stars. In any case, both were glad to get out
of the game with their brains intact and their bodies in reasonably
decent shape. The funny thing is the high school fella was a terrific
basketball player, too, and he might have had a longer and safer career
in the NBA.

Another great player I did get to see play in college was Gale Sayers.
He had a great but short career in the NFL, got out, had several
successful careers in sports and business but I read recently he is
suffering from dementia, probably as a result of the head injuries he
suffered playing pro football.

I wonder how much longer the NFL will be allowed, what with the
seriousness and extent of the brain injuries.


The NFL has come a long way with both protective gear, severe penalties
for unnecessary hits or roughness and mandatory concussion protocols.

The days of "Mean Joe Greene" and players like him are over.


I think they should remove all the protective gear - rugby style. You don't hear much about
concussion problems with rugby players.

Then it would be soccer and nobody would watch. They used to admit the
NFL was all about the "big hits".

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

A co-worker's son was set to get a full-ride scholarship playing rugby. He was a star, and played on the "all star" team that played across the pond several times. He ended up hurting his knee and when it all shook out, it turned out he had been playing with a concussion for a year or so.

His "career" is now over, and after concussion rehab he's getting his academic and social capabilities back together, and going to college.

Sorry to hear about that. Injuries like that happen in soccer also, but not nearly as frequently as
with our style football. From what I've seen and read, the incidence of concussions among rugby
players is less than that of football players. Spinal injuries from the scrums is a big concern. Our
football doesn't have the scrums.



Rugby will never be popular here. Not enough time outs for commercials.


That's what they said about soccer. Now a lot of soccer is shown on TV, but without a commercial
every couple minutes.

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:09:24 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Sunday, 21 January 2018 16:21:10 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:35:13 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/21/18 1:58 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 1:11 PM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 16:32:18 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 09:39:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


And what could be more important than football? ?


It's ok if you'd rather read Moby Dick for the 18th time instead. Most
of us got it the first time around.

Another of your weird personality quirks. If you don't like something,
nobody should, huh?

Moby Dick? Jesus what a boring ****ing book. Melville could have
trimmed off about 400 pages and had a gripping novel.
I got it right away. Life on a whaling ship was miserable. We didn't
need to share that misery for almost 800 pages to read the story.
Beside that, if you are already bored at sea, the last thing I want to
read is a book about being bored at sea. I thought the GM 3&2 book was
more interesting. ;-)


Ahhh...you thought the book was about life aboard a whaling ship, but that
is only the back page story, as it were. I’m not surprised you actually
didn’t get it.

No it was the "back 400 pages", unless you were just speed reading
over that like you skim the notes you respond to here.
Like I said at 250-300 pages it would have been a gripping story. The
man needed an editor.


My copy of Anna Karenina runs about 700 pages. You probably shouldn't
read Tolstoy.


As a statement I read onetime about Russian y would never read another one.
What is it about Russian novels that when you get to liking a character
they kill them off. Okay to kill a few but all of them? To depressing.



Russia and environs was and is a pretty dark, lousy place, where awful
things happened to people, and I don't mean because of the weather,
although that is pretty grim in much of the country, too. Russian
literature reflects Russian history, culture, class warfare, et cetera.
Life was pretty damned awful for ethnics living in Lithuania, Moldova,
Ukraine, Belarus, et cetera. My parents, some of my grandparents, and
various aunts and uncles and great aunts and uncles spoke Russian,
Polish, and German and so I learned Russian as a second language when I
was growing up. I forced myself to read Dr. Zhivago in Russian when I
was a young teenager, and it wasn't easy. I wouldn't attempt to read
Tolstoy in Russian. I remember with Zhivago I had to create a character
cheat sheet so I could try to recall who was who. Years later, I read
the novel in English and I enjoyed it. The movie romanticized the novel
and the times, but I liked it. The literary movie Russia House with Sean
Connery presents Russia in a more modern but still very dark light.

Decades ago, I helped promote a gallery show of contemporary Russian art
for Woodward & Lothrop, a DC department store chain now gone. The art
was so-so, but the story of many of the Soviet-era artists was grim,
something the Russian cultural attaches tried to conceal. It was a weird
time in the 1970s.



In case no one else says it, "Wow, Harry!"

'ell Johnny, is instigating and agitating your only purpose here?

Not at all, just extremely impressed. Aren't you?

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:22:15 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:59:19 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:47:08 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2018 11:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/21/18 11:35 AM, wrote:
On 21 Jan 2018 14:45:06 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:



Why didn’t President ******** simply sign an Exec Order mandating
broadcast
of the game?Â*

He could have just stroked a check to pay those AFN people necessary
to get that out on the air. I doubt it would take more than a few
dozen people for a day or two (who are not already called essential
and working anyway). He paid more than that to cut the grass at Mar a
Lago this week


I knew two pro football players pretty well. One was a year ahead of me
at my high school and the other I met as an adult. The latter was a
neighbor of a close friend. One was a halfback and the other was a
linebacker, and both were stars. In any case, both were glad to get out
of the game with their brains intact and their bodies in reasonably
decent shape. The funny thing is the high school fella was a terrific
basketball player, too, and he might have had a longer and safer career
in the NBA.

Another great player I did get to see play in college was Gale Sayers.
He had a great but short career in the NFL, got out, had several
successful careers in sports and business but I read recently he is
suffering from dementia, probably as a result of the head injuries he
suffered playing pro football.

I wonder how much longer the NFL will be allowed, what with the
seriousness and extent of the brain injuries.


The NFL has come a long way with both protective gear, severe penalties
for unnecessary hits or roughness and mandatory concussion protocols.

The days of "Mean Joe Greene" and players like him are over.


I think they should remove all the protective gear - rugby style. You don't hear much about
concussion problems with rugby players.

Then it would be soccer and nobody would watch. They used to admit the
NFL was all about the "big hits".

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

We watched some rugby in New Zealand "Go All Blacks" and I agree it is
not exactly like soccer but more like it than NFL football. The
biggest single difference is no line of scrimmage.

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:26:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:23:06 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 18:58:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



As a statement I read onetime about Russian y would never read another one.
What is it about Russian novels that when you get to liking a character
they kill them off. Okay to kill a few but all of them? To depressing.

Don't read the winds of war ;-)

I very much enjoyed that series, wish it'd been longer.

But you have to admit spoiler alert the Nazis get a lot of people
you were just starting to like. I read "winds" and "Remembrance"
during a freezing trip to Chicago where taking a coat just tricks you
into thinking you can go outside. If there were others I missed them.

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 16:23:43 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:55:30 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-5, John H wrote:

Not quite. Apparently you've not watched a lot of rugby. Much different than soccer and much more
action than our football.

A co-worker's son was set to get a full-ride scholarship playing rugby. He was a star, and played on the "all star" team that played across the pond several times. He ended up hurting his knee and when it all shook out, it turned out he had been playing with a concussion for a year or so.

His "career" is now over, and after concussion rehab he's getting his academic and social capabilities back together, and going to college.

Sorry to hear about that. Injuries like that happen in soccer also, but not nearly as frequently as
with our style football. From what I've seen and read, the incidence of concussions among rugby
players is less than that of football players. Spinal injuries from the scrums is a big concern. Our
football doesn't have the scrums.

I heard once there are more injuries in girl's soccer than there are
in amateur football.

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:18:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of us didn’t have to grow up on a dirt farm in Missouri and have to
shoot squirrels for dinner.

===

Too bad for you - might have been better for it.

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