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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:32:34 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out

wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?





Not so. Just being "fair and balanced".
Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up?
If there *was* a cover up, by whom?




It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the
police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide.

And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause?


Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The
"higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders.

You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A
higher up could be a sergeant.


A sargent is not going to make a murder beef go away or even delay it
longer than he can sit on a document. If the DA is pushing, that will
not be very long.
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On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out

wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?





Not so. Just being "fair and balanced".
Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up?
If there *was* a cover up, by whom?




It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the
police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide.

And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause?


Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The
"higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders.

You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A
higher up could be a sergeant.



Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair
a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor?


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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out

wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?





Not so. Just being "fair and balanced".
Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up?
If there *was* a cover up, by whom?




It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the
police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide.

And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause?

Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The
"higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders.

You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A
higher up could be a sergeant.



Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair
a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor?




Your shots in the dark are as usual humorous.

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On 11/27/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out

wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?





Not so. Just being "fair and balanced".
Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up?
If there *was* a cover up, by whom?




It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the
police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide.

And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause?

Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The
"higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders.

You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A
higher up could be a sergeant.



Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair
a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor?




Your shots in the dark are as usual humorous.



Harry, if this event occurred in a city with a Republican mayor, and a
Republican DA and it took 13-14 months to charge the cop, you would be
screaming for their heads.
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On 11/27/15 4:49 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out

wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a
first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations
and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances
were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from
that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser
included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder
2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant
difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for
murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so
old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only
came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be
released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you
have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and
part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security
cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute.
Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on
the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come
within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm
Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?





Not so. Just being "fair and balanced".
Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up?
If there *was* a cover up, by whom?




It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher
ups in the
police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide.

And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause?

Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The
"higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders.

You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A
higher up could be a sergeant.



Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair
a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor?



You boys are hysterical. BTW, proper usage, not GOP usage:

Democratic mayor, Democratic DA. Or the mayor is a Democrat. Not
Democrat Mayor.


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On 11/27/2015 7:49 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/27/15 4:49 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out

wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a
first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is
this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations
and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances
were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from
that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser
included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder
2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant
difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for
murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so
old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only
came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be
released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you
have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and
part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security
cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute.
Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on
the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come
within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm
Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?





Not so. Just being "fair and balanced".
Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up?
If there *was* a cover up, by whom?




It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher
ups in the
police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide.

And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause?

Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The
"higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders.

You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A
higher up could be a sergeant.



Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair
a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor?



You boys are hysterical. BTW, proper usage, not GOP usage:

Democratic mayor, Democratic DA. Or the mayor is a Democrat. Not
Democrat Mayor.


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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/27/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out

wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?





Not so. Just being "fair and balanced".
Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up?
If there *was* a cover up, by whom?




It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the
police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide.

And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause?

Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The
"higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders.

You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A
higher up could be a sergeant.



Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair
a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor?




Your shots in the dark are as usual humorous.



Harry, if this event occurred in a city with a Republican mayor, and a
Republican DA and it took 13-14 months to charge the cop, you would be
screaming for their heads.

I doubt if political party has anything to do with the delays.



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On 11/27/2015 8:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/27/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out

wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?





Not so. Just being "fair and balanced".
Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up?
If there *was* a cover up, by whom?




It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the
police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide.

And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause?

Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The
"higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders.

You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A
higher up could be a sergeant.



Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair
a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor?




Your shots in the dark are as usual humorous.



Harry, if this event occurred in a city with a Republican mayor, and a
Republican DA and it took 13-14 months to charge the cop, you would be
screaming for their heads.

I doubt if political party has anything to do with the delays.



Except that all the corrupt officials involved are democrats. But that's
just coincidental. As John would say,"You are a joke Krause"
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Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers..

"People should be paid based on their performance, not as a group. Unions
remove any incentive for an individual to work harder since their salary
is not connected to their personal dedication or hard work."



Bull**** Ditzy. I worked in a union environment and the negotiated rates were considered a minimum.
There was nothing to stop management from giving a bonus to people who stood out over and above the norm. They could also be promoted as the seniority clause only affected the very lowest groups.
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On 11/27/15 8:54 AM, True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers..

"People should be paid based on their performance, not as a group. Unions
remove any incentive for an individual to work harder since their salary
is not connected to their personal dedication or hard work."



Bull**** Ditzy. I worked in a union environment and the negotiated rates were considered a minimum.
There was nothing to stop management from giving a bonus to people who stood out over and above the norm. They could also be promoted as the seniority clause only affected the very lowest groups.


No reason to take these over-the-top right-wing haters seriously. If
they had their way, there would be no wage scales at all, no minimum
wage, and employers would hold all the cards.

**** that ****.
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