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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 11:49:20 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 11/27/15 11:19 AM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 07:49:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: You boys are hysterical. BTW, proper usage, not GOP usage: Democratic mayor, Democratic DA. Or the mayor is a Democrat. Not Democrat Mayor. When he is down to criticizing your grammar, you won. "Democrat" the way he used it is used as a pejorative by Republicans. It's not grammar, per se; it's a slur. Only to people who are looking for a reason to be offended. Perhaps it is just because some people have trouble calling some of the policies advocated by democrats, "democratic". I do find it ironic that the people most offended by "democrat" being used as an adjective are the ones most opposed to democracy. Ask yourself, should we put gay marriage up for a vote? I didn't think so. |
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#93
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/27/2015 7:49 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/27/15 4:49 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 9:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ? Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause? Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The "higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders. You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A higher up could be a sergeant. Do you suppose this hypothetical sergeant kept the whole affair a big secret from the Democrat DA and the Democrat Mayor? You boys are hysterical. BTW, proper usage, not GOP usage: Democratic mayor, Democratic DA. Or the mayor is a Democrat. Not Democrat Mayor. Sorry. I posted it exactly as I meant it. You can do the same. |
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#94
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/27/2015 11:49 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/27/15 11:19 AM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 07:49:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: You boys are hysterical. BTW, proper usage, not GOP usage: Democratic mayor, Democratic DA. Or the mayor is a Democrat. Not Democrat Mayor. When he is down to criticizing your grammar, you won. "Democrat" the way he used it is used as a pejorative by Republicans. It's not grammar, per se; it's a slur. A "slur"? Funny, especially from you. I used "Democrat Mayor" and "Democrat DA" purposely. You know why. You just don't like it ... ergo ... "slur". Ha ha ha. |
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#95
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/27/2015 12:30 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 11:49:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/27/15 11:19 AM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 07:49:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: You boys are hysterical. BTW, proper usage, not GOP usage: Democratic mayor, Democratic DA. Or the mayor is a Democrat. Not Democrat Mayor. When he is down to criticizing your grammar, you won. "Democrat" the way he used it is used as a pejorative by Republicans. It's not grammar, per se; it's a slur. Only to people who are looking for a reason to be offended. Perhaps it is just because some people have trouble calling some of the policies advocated by democrats, "democratic". I do find it ironic that the people most offended by "democrat" being used as an adjective are the ones most opposed to democracy. Ask yourself, should we put gay marriage up for a vote? I didn't think so. Bottom line is: Democrats are not necessarily democratic. |
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#96
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/27/15 12:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:02:23 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:38:18 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:23:43 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:12:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: The teachers were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen. === Unions willing to break the law are guilty of extortion. Teachers work hard for their money but salaries, and paticularly benefits, have gotten out of line with private industry. This will cause a major crisis at some point and force many local school districts into bankruptcy. I am not even upset at teacher salaries and benefits. What ****es me off is they can't get rid of bad teachers, pay is not tied to performance and the administration siphons 60% of the money away before it ever trickles down to the actual classroom. Sounds like you've been there and done that. You are correct. A few years ago I did go through the school board budget, pretty much line for line and developed a summary of where the money was going. Then I compared that to a few other places. The striking thing was how much of the money is going to things that are not really education related. In defense of the teachers themselves, I would say, they will not make any real money in the classroom compared to what they can make if they move downtown to the administration office. Now you end up with a teacher who we may have been better off keeping in the classroom, being a mediocre administrator but that is how the career path is structured. You can't get a serious administrative job without being a teacher. It is an entirely different skill set. Charter schools are starting to demonstrate the flaws in the way we run school systems, even though they are running with ankle weights. Good grief. You went through a local school board budget and proclaimed yourself an expert. Hehehe. |
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#97
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/27/15 12:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:38:18 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:23:43 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:12:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: The teachers were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen. === Unions willing to break the law are guilty of extortion. Teachers work hard for their money but salaries, and paticularly benefits, have gotten out of line with private industry. This will cause a major crisis at some point and force many local school districts into bankruptcy. I am not even upset at teacher salaries and benefits. What ****es me off is they can't get rid of bad teachers, pay is not tied to performance and the administration siphons 60% of the money away before it ever trickles down to the actual classroom. Sounds like you've been there and done that. You are correct. -- Well, hell, they got rid of you as a teacher. |
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#98
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:56:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 11/27/15 12:42 PM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:02:23 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:38:18 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:23:43 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:12:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: The teachers were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen. === Unions willing to break the law are guilty of extortion. Teachers work hard for their money but salaries, and paticularly benefits, have gotten out of line with private industry. This will cause a major crisis at some point and force many local school districts into bankruptcy. I am not even upset at teacher salaries and benefits. What ****es me off is they can't get rid of bad teachers, pay is not tied to performance and the administration siphons 60% of the money away before it ever trickles down to the actual classroom. Sounds like you've been there and done that. You are correct. A few years ago I did go through the school board budget, pretty much line for line and developed a summary of where the money was going. Then I compared that to a few other places. The striking thing was how much of the money is going to things that are not really education related. In defense of the teachers themselves, I would say, they will not make any real money in the classroom compared to what they can make if they move downtown to the administration office. Now you end up with a teacher who we may have been better off keeping in the classroom, being a mediocre administrator but that is how the career path is structured. You can't get a serious administrative job without being a teacher. It is an entirely different skill set. Charter schools are starting to demonstrate the flaws in the way we run school systems, even though they are running with ankle weights. Good grief. You went through a local school board budget and proclaimed yourself an expert. Hehehe. It is simple math and math is a pure science. ....but you know that. It is a simple fact that you can put a kid in the best secular private school in Lee County for what the school board is spending on them. |
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#99
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:56:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/27/15 12:42 PM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:02:23 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:38:18 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:23:43 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:12:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: The teachers were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen. === Unions willing to break the law are guilty of extortion. Teachers work hard for their money but salaries, and paticularly benefits, have gotten out of line with private industry. This will cause a major crisis at some point and force many local school districts into bankruptcy. I am not even upset at teacher salaries and benefits. What ****es me off is they can't get rid of bad teachers, pay is not tied to performance and the administration siphons 60% of the money away before it ever trickles down to the actual classroom. Sounds like you've been there and done that. You are correct. A few years ago I did go through the school board budget, pretty much line for line and developed a summary of where the money was going. Then I compared that to a few other places. The striking thing was how much of the money is going to things that are not really education related. In defense of the teachers themselves, I would say, they will not make any real money in the classroom compared to what they can make if they move downtown to the administration office. Now you end up with a teacher who we may have been better off keeping in the classroom, being a mediocre administrator but that is how the career path is structured. You can't get a serious administrative job without being a teacher. It is an entirely different skill set. Charter schools are starting to demonstrate the flaws in the way we run school systems, even though they are running with ankle weights. Good grief. You went through a local school board budget and proclaimed yourself an expert. Hehehe. It is simple math and math is a pure science. ...but you know that. It is a simple fact that you can put a kid in the best secular private school in Lee County for what the school board is spending on them. That you can do simple math doesn't mean you understand a school budget, but of course you are the world's greatest living expert. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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#100
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 13:33:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:56:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/27/15 12:42 PM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:02:23 -0500, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:38:18 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:23:43 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:12:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: The teachers were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen. === Unions willing to break the law are guilty of extortion. Teachers work hard for their money but salaries, and paticularly benefits, have gotten out of line with private industry. This will cause a major crisis at some point and force many local school districts into bankruptcy. I am not even upset at teacher salaries and benefits. What ****es me off is they can't get rid of bad teachers, pay is not tied to performance and the administration siphons 60% of the money away before it ever trickles down to the actual classroom. Sounds like you've been there and done that. You are correct. A few years ago I did go through the school board budget, pretty much line for line and developed a summary of where the money was going. Then I compared that to a few other places. The striking thing was how much of the money is going to things that are not really education related. In defense of the teachers themselves, I would say, they will not make any real money in the classroom compared to what they can make if they move downtown to the administration office. Now you end up with a teacher who we may have been better off keeping in the classroom, being a mediocre administrator but that is how the career path is structured. You can't get a serious administrative job without being a teacher. It is an entirely different skill set. Charter schools are starting to demonstrate the flaws in the way we run school systems, even though they are running with ankle weights. Good grief. You went through a local school board budget and proclaimed yourself an expert. Hehehe. It is simple math and math is a pure science. ...but you know that. It is a simple fact that you can put a kid in the best secular private school in Lee County for what the school board is spending on them. That you can do simple math doesn't mean you understand a school budget, but of course you are the world's greatest living expert. === Harry the schmuck blasts out yet another brain fart. It's too bad that more people don't make an attempt to understand their school budgets. They'd be appalled at how much gets spent to support obscure special programs that benefit very few people - some of which are federally mandated but funded locally. Public schools have turned into a massive care system for children of all abilities with actual education a second priority. |
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