On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 9:10:47 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. 😀





Not so. Just being "fair and balanced".
Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up?
If there *was* a cover up, by whom?

Facts that go against his agenda really makes his head explode.

On 11/26/15 9:30 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 8:11:54 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 7:42:05 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. 😀



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Harry, Cook Co/ Chicago really is an anti-republican paradise. You should
be proud of the place...


I doubt the mayor delayed the indictment for a year.

Never said he did.

Hard to blame anyone
with a brain for being anti republican, considering that party's
presidential wannabes.

What's that got to do with Rahm, or the others Richaard listed, besides nothing?


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You're the one who said Chicago was an "anti-Republican paradise." I'm
merely giving the reason why.

On 11/26/2015 10:00 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:33:11 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/25/2015 10:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/25/15 10:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/25/2015 10:13 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/25/15 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/25/2015 10:03 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
--

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.



Point to ponder:

In the 400 days since this cop committed this obvious murder, 396
blacks
were shot and killed by another black in the Chicago area.

Do they not understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of
the 1960s or that Black Lives Matter either?


You don't "get it," either, eh?


Yes Harry, I "get it". Probably better than you do.



I don't think so. The 1960's demonstrations/marches were mostly against
institutional racism and violence. The Chicago demonstration, such as it
was, was also against institutional racism and violence. Police murder
of blacks seems to be endemic these days. Institutional violence.

We have, what, 30,000+ "deaths by gun" and mostly involving non-police
individuals in this country each year. Peculiarly 'Merican, eh?


How many by suicide?
How many black on black?
How many while a crime was being committed?
How many with drug involvement?
How many accidental?
How many by illegal immigrants?

If you have a point to make, make it.
Otherwise admit that you are just parroting a statistic without having a
clue as to what it implies.
Am I right, O' clueless one?

That one's probably way too hard for Krause to answer.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


He's afraid of what I might say in response to his answer. The questions
asked are easily answered with a little digging.

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:27:45 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.

If they are really going for a murder 1 charge, they needed to get
their ducks in a row and a big part of that was dealing with the
union. This is Chicago, where they are scared of the janitor's union,
the police union scares the hell out of them.
Life in prison is a long time, this guy wasn't going anywhere.
There is plenty of punishment left for him ... if he doesn't eat his
gun. Maybe that is what they were waiting for.

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:42:03 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?

His point is, what is everyone protesting?
There is going to be a trial (or a plea), the top count is draconian
and the government is democratic so they can't be racist. (You limit
that term to republicans.)

Looking at the tape, the guy may actually have an insanity defense in
the offing. Just the fact that he kept shooting long after the guy was
down and was stopped by the other cops when he tried to reload makes
it sound like he had gone to that other place.
Expect to see some kind of "Chicago cop syndrome" if this actually
makes it to trial. I expect a plea and that may be what took so long,
trying to get that.

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:



It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the
police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide.

Indictments come from the DA, not the police. That is a political
office. The police commissioner serves at the pleasure of the Mayor.
The only real power in the police department comes from the union and
you are silent about that.

On 11/26/15 10:30 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:27:45 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:
-
On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
---

You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
-

It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.

If they are really going for a murder 1 charge, they needed to get
their ducks in a row and a big part of that was dealing with the
union. This is Chicago, where they are scared of the janitor's union,
the police union scares the hell out of them.
Life in prison is a long time, this guy wasn't going anywhere.
There is plenty of punishment left for him ... if he doesn't eat his
gun. Maybe that is what they were waiting for.


Do you have anything other than your hatred of unions to support your
claim of "dealing with the union"? I mean something real.

On 11/26/15 10:42 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:42:03 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?

His point is, what is everyone protesting?


You mean, other than yet another cop killing someone who shouldn't have
been killed?

On 11/26/2015 11:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/26/15 10:42 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:42:03 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?

His point is, what is everyone protesting?


You mean, other than yet another cop killing someone who shouldn't have
been killed?


Bad cop. No doubt. Bound to be a few considering there are over a
million in the USA.

Who knows the reasons why? I can think of a few.

But why 14 months?

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 11:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/26/15 10:42 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:42:03 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?

His point is, what is everyone protesting?


You mean, other than yet another cop killing someone who shouldn't have
been killed?


Bad cop. No doubt. Bound to be a few considering there are over a
million in the USA.

Who knows the reasons why? I can think of a few.

But why 14 months?




You can guess but that doesn't mean you know.

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