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Is Paris/Isis Over?
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. 😀 Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
#33
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 8:11:54 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote: On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 7:42:05 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. 😀 -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ Harry, Cook Co/ Chicago really is an anti-republican paradise. You should be proud of the place... I doubt the mayor delayed the indictment for a year. Never said he did. Hard to blame anyone with a brain for being anti republican, considering that party's presidential wannabes. What's that got to do with Rahm, or the others Richaard listed, besides nothing? -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
#34
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/26/2015 8:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat No surprise there. Democrats are all for a police state and big government. And when they screw up they just try to sewwp it under the rug. "What difference does it make" says a prominent democratic presidential wannabe. The country slit one wrist and now there's a possibility it'll slit the other. If ever we needed God's help to keep us from making the fatal mistake, now's the time. Hilly dear, It really does make a difference. |
#35
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 8:26:57 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. 😀 Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ IMO It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department, or the entire Cook Co. political system... |
#36
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/26/2015 8:56 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 7:42:05 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. 😀 -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ Harry, Cook Co/ Chicago really is an anti-republican paradise. You should be proud of the place... Why then, are they so complacent about their main constituency killing off each other? What's in it for them?, is the million dollar question. |
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Is Paris/Isis Over?
On 11/26/2015 9:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote: On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 7:42:05 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. 😀 -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ Harry, Cook Co/ Chicago really is an anti-republican paradise. You should be proud of the place... I doubt the mayor delayed the indictment for a year. Hard to blame anyone with a brain for being anti republican, considering that party's presidential wannabes. You are proud of Chicago politics, I knew it. |
#38
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:10:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/25/2015 10:03 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? -- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either. Point to ponder: In the 400 days since this cop committed this obvious murder, 396 blacks were shot and killed by another black in the Chicago area. Do they not understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s or that Black Lives Matter either? Amen. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
#39
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:33:11 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/25/2015 10:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:13 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/25/2015 10:03 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? -- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either. Point to ponder: In the 400 days since this cop committed this obvious murder, 396 blacks were shot and killed by another black in the Chicago area. Do they not understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s or that Black Lives Matter either? You don't "get it," either, eh? Yes Harry, I "get it". Probably better than you do. I don't think so. The 1960's demonstrations/marches were mostly against institutional racism and violence. The Chicago demonstration, such as it was, was also against institutional racism and violence. Police murder of blacks seems to be endemic these days. Institutional violence. We have, what, 30,000+ "deaths by gun" and mostly involving non-police individuals in this country each year. Peculiarly 'Merican, eh? How many by suicide? How many black on black? How many while a crime was being committed? How many with drug involvement? How many accidental? How many by illegal immigrants? If you have a point to make, make it. Otherwise admit that you are just parroting a statistic without having a clue as to what it implies. Am I right, O' clueless one? That one's probably way too hard for Krause to answer. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 11/26/2015 9:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote: On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:- On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: - On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:- On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be another 24/7 story? Can they manage two 24/7 stories? We'll see. The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first degree murder charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an excuse to begin looting and burning in Chicago? --- You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and marches of the 1960s, either.- Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that. It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment. It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is possible and manslaughter is reasonable. Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway. - It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released. Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes in hand. Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras. The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh? I wonder if the cop will cop a plea. Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within 60 days if even that long. Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. 😀 Not so. Just being "fair and balanced". Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up? If there *was* a cover up, by whom? It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide. Even if that were true, what does it have to do with a cop murdering a civilian in cold blood. I'm convinced that you ate totally insane. |
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