On 6/10/2013 11:49 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
use he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

Harry's statistics stand on their own. No justification, rationality,
methodology, or explanations of those stats are allowed.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:56:39 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

Why are real, true statistics "straw man"?
Yes, look at table 2 on that link I posted

So, in your brain, that makes all other statistics "straw man"?????

On 6/10/2013 12:24 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/10/2013 11:49 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
use he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

Harry's statistics stand on their own. No justification, rationality,
methodology, or explanations of those stats are allowed.

The stats didn't address the context of the post he answered, that's all
I meant.

In article ,
says...

On 6/10/2013 12:24 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/10/2013 11:49 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
use he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

Harry's statistics stand on their own. No justification, rationality,
methodology, or explanations of those stats are allowed.

The stats didn't address the context of the post he answered, that's all
I meant.

It sure as hell DID!

John H wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 20:45:00 -0400, Earl wrote:

True North wrote:
Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects
it can get a bit tricky.
Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable.
Got a neighbor friend who can stand in for your wife?
I've got one across the street that I use. She's about 26, great body, beautiful face, etc.

Is that what you mean? :)

John H.
That would certainly work if you can keep your eyes on the trailer!

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:09:59 -0400, Earl wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 20:45:00 -0400, Earl wrote:

True North wrote:
Actually, I do back it in but if the street is busy and I don't have the wife watching for pedestrians or stationery objects
it can get a bit tricky.
Just looking for a way to make it easier and more enjoyable.
Got a neighbor friend who can stand in for your wife?
I've got one across the street that I use. She's about 26, great body, beautiful face, etc.

Is that what you mean? :)

John H.
That would certainly work if you can keep your eyes on the trailer!

What trailer?

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

That looks like a great idea.

That looks like a great idea.

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:28:17 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.


I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are
responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times
higher in the United States than it is in Canada.

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics
about which to brag, eh?

The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males
and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by
a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun
would make me safer.

According to the NRA, you're always safer with a gun.

You could shoot a boat out of the water that was threatening you,
after all.

Or sink it before it got to you, if you have a fully automatic machine
gun. Bullet holes in a hull dampen lift dramatically.

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:11:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:42:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote:

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics
about which to brag, eh?

The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males
and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by
a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun
would make me safer.


My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like
saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem,
because the majority of recipients are...white.

The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any
modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is
higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my
posit.

Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out
of wedlock births, eh?

Silliness in the extremis.

It is not silly to look at the source of more than half of the murders
and a group that exceeds the others by a factor of 11.
It is not as much race as the culture and economics in our inner
cities but the point is this is not really a problem in most of the
US,
It is certainly not an issue where most of us boat and that is what we
should be looking at on this BB.
If I felt it was necessary to carry a gun, I would move ... Oh wait, I
did.

Meanwhile back to parking BOAT trailers
I did like the looks of that dolly Don posted and it was only $400


Early in my career in high tech, an IBM exec I was visiting in Atlanta
(who was raised in Jacksonville, FL) asked me what our technology and
product would do to address the problem of the disenfranchised black
male in our society.

He had vision and was a corporate executive. I wish more people
thought like that.

When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of
opportunity and you'll have your answer.

It sure as **** isn't guns or drugs, but that's what we've supplied
them.