Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.

On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.


I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are
responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times
higher in the United States than it is in Canada.

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics
about which to brag, eh?

On Monday, 10 June 2013 09:10:02 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:

Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.





I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are

responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times

higher in the United States than it is in Canada.



Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in

murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics

about which to brag, eh?

John was speculating on me needing ideas on what gun was best to protect my boat. He was recommending the one he has for sale.
I just responded that none was needed.

On 6/10/13 8:53 AM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 June 2013 09:10:02 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:

Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.





I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are

responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times

higher in the United States than it is in Canada.



Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in

murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics

about which to brag, eh?

John was speculating on me needing ideas on what gun was best to protect my boat. He was recommending the one he has for sale.
I just responded that none was needed.


It's easy to be in the gun selling business in Virginia. I'll bet he is
selling or trying to sell that SIG, and probably for the reasons I
stated several months ago.

On Monday, 10 June 2013 12:02:03 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 8:53 AM, True North wrote:

On Monday, 10 June 2013 09:10:02 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:



Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.











I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are



responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times



higher in the United States than it is in Canada.







Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in



murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics



about which to brag, eh?



John was speculating on me needing ideas on what gun was best to protect my boat. He was recommending the one he has for sale.

I just responded that none was needed.





It's easy to be in the gun selling business in Virginia. I'll bet he is

selling or trying to sell that SIG, and probably for the reasons I

stated several months ago.

I do recall you talking about 'trigger pull'.

On 6/10/13 11:24 AM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 10 June 2013 12:02:03 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 8:53 AM, True North wrote:

On Monday, 10 June 2013 09:10:02 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:



Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.











I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are



responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times



higher in the United States than it is in Canada.







Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in



murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics



about which to brag, eh?



John was speculating on me needing ideas on what gun was best to protect my boat. He was recommending the one he has for sale.

I just responded that none was needed.





It's easy to be in the gun selling business in Virginia. I'll bet he is

selling or trying to sell that SIG, and probably for the reasons I

stated several months ago.

I do recall you talking about 'trigger pull'.



Was that it? Trigger pull? Yeah, I'm not a fan of the triggers on double
action semi-autos. I don't know anyone who shoots competitively with a
trigger like that who hasn't spent a few hundred bucks to a grand on
trigger work.

On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and helpful if you need it.


I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are
responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times
higher in the United States than it is in Canada.

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics
about which to brag, eh?

The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males
and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by
a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun
would make me safer.


My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like
saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem,
because the majority of recipients are...white.

The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any
modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is
higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my
posit.

Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out
of wedlock births, eh?

Silliness in the extremis.

On 6/10/2013 11:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and
helpful if you need it.


I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are
responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times
higher in the United States than it is in Canada.

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics
about which to brag, eh?

The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males
and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by
a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun
would make me safer.


My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like
saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem,
because the majority of recipients are...white.

The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any
modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is
higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my
posit.

Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out
of wedlock births, eh?

Silliness in the extremis.

Nice rant, but it's a straw man.. not at all what John was getting to...

On 6/10/13 11:49 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/10/2013 11:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and
helpful if you need it.


I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are
responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times
higher in the United States than it is in Canada.

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not
statistics
about which to brag, eh?

The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males
and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by
a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun
would make me safer.


My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like
saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem,
because the majority of recipients are...white.

The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any
modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is
higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my
posit.

Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out
of wedlock births, eh?

Silliness in the extremis.

Nice rant, but it's a straw man.. not at all what John was getting to...


If you are referring to Herring, I apparently have not seen his post
second hand. I don't see them first hand because he is down in the Bozo
Bin with his buddies Hank, Earl, and a few others.

In article ,
says...

On 6/10/2013 11:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:10:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/10/13 7:42 AM, True North wrote:
Don't need a gun up here...the local boaters are all friendly and
helpful if you need it.


I don't know the context here, since I don't know what you are
responding to, but the murder rate per 100,000 people is 2.8 to 3 times
higher in the United States than it is in Canada.

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not statistics
about which to brag, eh?

The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males
and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by
a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun
would make me safer.


My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like
saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem,
because the majority of recipients are...white.

The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any
modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is
higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my
posit.

Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out
of wedlock births, eh?

Silliness in the extremis.

Nice rant, but it's a straw man.. not at all what John was getting to...

Why are real, true statistics "straw man"?