On 6/14/13 2:19 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 6/14/13 2:06 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.




In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky
shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang
out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom
rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the
underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the
sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out
with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the
stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back.
Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we
got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh
water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with
sal****er.

Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun.

But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests.


No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse
outboard and fishes for stripers.

True, I do however have a 12 foot jon with a trolling motor that I fish
out of from time to time.


A. I was unaware you had such a boat and,
B. therefore, I haven't made fun of it.

I've fished for smallmouth bass from a canoe with no motor. Why would I
"make fun" of someone who fishes from a jon boat?

Stop looking for arguments, eh?

You made fun of Scotty's boat many many times. And his boat looked like
a good boat to fish out of. I'm thinking of actually getting one of
those inner tube looking jobs for river trout! Kind of like this, but
I'm a lot more handsome!

http://tinyurl.com/n4llso7


I made fun of Scotty's crappy paint job on that boat, if I recall, and
the way he let it deteriorate. I did admire the boarding ladder he built
for it. But that's all water under the seats.

On 6/14/2013 2:01 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/14/13 1:37 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.




In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky
shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang
out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom
rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the
underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the
sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out
with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the
stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back.
Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we
got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh
water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with
sal****er.

Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun.

But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests.


No one here I am aware of boats in a 14 foot rowboat with a 3 horse
outboard and fishes for stripers.

Um, I do.... Try a 12 foot boat with a 3 horse.... and I love stripers.

On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:59:14 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:22:49 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/14/13 10:13 AM, Wayne B wrote:

If you think that's baloney then you are not fully conversant with
alll of the facts or you are in denial.



Lack of marketable skills certainly is a chiller in terms of getting a
job. Your pinning the lack of those skills on "lack of a strong family
role model and support" due to "cultural issues," "unwed mother issue,
"Uncle Tom" issue and "ebonics" are overly general and put the cart
before the horse. The root causes are hundreds of years of racism and
poverty.

Latinos have the same issues with education, racism and poverty along
with a language issue but they seem to succeed at a far higher rate.
The difference is a better family structure. When that family
structure fails, they end up in similar circumstances.

Unfortunately the government welfare programs encourage mothers not
having a man in the house since that cuts the amount of assistance
they can receive.

Try suffering under the yolk of racism for many generations. Include
the math that your soul was worth a fraction of a white person's.

Latinos surely suffer from similar circumstances but not nearly the
depth of hatred or disenfranchisement. Race is an easy way for humans
to distinguish between people.

With three days of training, a good practitioner can have you
believing that people with green eyes are the spawn of the devil.

How many years do you think a couple of hundred years of training
takes to undo?

When you strip a person of their dignity, what do they have to work
towards?

That old man from Jacksonville who ran a division of IBM sure had a
lot better education and common sense than ya'll.

On 6/14/2013 11:19 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

You made fun of Scotty's boat many many times. And his boat looked like
a good boat to fish out of. I'm thinking of actually getting one of
those inner tube looking jobs for river trout! Kind of like this, but
I'm a lot more handsome!

http://tinyurl.com/n4llso7

I've got one of those I use for fishing steelhead in the lower
Deschutes. I've carried it upstream a couple of miles and floated down
through some mild class 1-2 rapids. It's a lot of fun and provides
access to good spots that can't be reached from the bank.

Several tips if you plan on using it in any significant current or rapids.

Don't even bother with the foot flippers. Hand paddles of significant
size are the way to go. I cut a kayak paddle in two and tethered each
to a ring on the float tube with a short cord.

If you have to carry it any distance I find that balancing the backrest
on my head and letting the tube hang over my back is easier then
carrying it by hand. I did get a bad stiff neck doing that several days
in a row however.

Floating downstream after sunset on a warm summer evening after a good
day fishing just can't be beat in my book.

In article , lid says...

On 6/14/2013 11:19 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

You made fun of Scotty's boat many many times. And his boat looked like
a good boat to fish out of. I'm thinking of actually getting one of
those inner tube looking jobs for river trout! Kind of like this, but
I'm a lot more handsome!

http://tinyurl.com/n4llso7

I've got one of those I use for fishing steelhead in the lower
Deschutes. I've carried it upstream a couple of miles and floated down
through some mild class 1-2 rapids. It's a lot of fun and provides
access to good spots that can't be reached from the bank.

Several tips if you plan on using it in any significant current or rapids.

Don't even bother with the foot flippers. Hand paddles of significant
size are the way to go. I cut a kayak paddle in two and tethered each
to a ring on the float tube with a short cord.

If you have to carry it any distance I find that balancing the backrest
on my head and letting the tube hang over my back is easier then
carrying it by hand. I did get a bad stiff neck doing that several days
in a row however.

Floating downstream after sunset on a warm summer evening after a good
day fishing just can't be beat in my book.

Thanks for the advice! There are a lot of places here that hold
beautiful big trout that get spooked too easily to even think about
using my jon boat to get to, and up on the lake I could take it on my
bass boat and launch into the small quiet coves for some bass fun!

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On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:02:14 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:23:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
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Seriously Don... Get to craigs list and get a 6 hp rototiller... Remove
the blade and have sombody bolt or weld a ball on the thing... Just find
one for a couple hundred bucks that is self propelled and look up
anybody locally with a set of end wrenches and a welder, another 35
dollars and maybe even a case of beer and you are golden...

I was really thinking you could make something.
Use something like a garage door opener motor for power. They are
usually gear head with a pretty good reduction and they end up with a
sprocket chain drive. These show up at garage sales and on Craigs List
for $20 or less.
Put a big sprocket gear on the wheel drive to get a little more
mechanical advantage.
Then is just a question of fabricating the dolly.

Garage door opener won't work, they won't pull that hard before the
safety mechanism cuts it out. I've got a 16' wooden door that is heavy
as hell, with two torsion springs to make it seem light enough to easily
pick up. One of the springs broke and the opener was useless. You can
hit your garage door opener, and when it's going up, grab the door and
it doesn't take very much effort at all to stop the opener. Springs are
adjusted properly when you can raise the door with the opener disengaged
and where ever you stop the door, it should stay.

I would just jumper out those switches


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Dang, Harbor freight.
http://www.harborfreight.com/automot...e/winches.html
Less than 1/2 the price of an old mechanical winch.

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:11:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:42:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 6/10/13 11:28 AM, wrote:

Among modern Western democracies, the United States is the leader in
murder rate and in percentage of population incarcerated. Not
statistics
about which to brag, eh?

The murder rate of black males is over 10 times that of white males
and the only reason Travonn got any attention at all is because he was
killed by a white man. The vast majority are killed by other black
men. (usually involved in drug gangs) Everyone seems to ignore those
statistics and those victims

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...01a14.htm#tab1

I feel very safe on my boat. I have a better chance of being killed by
a "go fast" boat than any other threat. I certainly do not think a gun
would make me safer.


My comment had nothing to do with race. Your interjection of it is like
saying that welfare in the United States is not really a problem,
because the majority of recipients are...white.

The point is that the United States has the highest murder rate of any
modern Western democracy. That the murder rate of blacks on blacks is
higher than the murder rate of whites on whites is not relevant to my
posit.

Gosh, if it weren't for the presence of women, we wouldn't have any out
of wedlock births, eh?

Silliness in the extremis.

It is not silly to look at the source of more than half of the murders
and a group that exceeds the others by a factor of 11.
It is not as much race as the culture and economics in our inner
cities but the point is this is not really a problem in most of the
US,
It is certainly not an issue where most of us boat and that is what we
should be looking at on this BB.
If I felt it was necessary to carry a gun, I would move ... Oh wait, I
did.

Meanwhile back to parking BOAT trailers
I did like the looks of that dolly Don posted and it was only $400


Early in my career in high tech, an IBM exec I was visiting in Atlanta
(who was raised in Jacksonville, FL) asked me what our technology and
product would do to address the problem of the disenfranchised black
male in our society.

He had vision and was a corporate executive. I wish more people
thought like that.

When you consider black on black crime, consider the lack of
opportunity and you'll have your answer.

It sure as **** isn't guns or drugs, but that's what we've supplied
them.


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They have opportunity! The blacks in the innercity seem to think education
is bad. Chicago, has what a 70% black male school dropout rate? Without an
education, they are not even qualified to ask " Want fries with that?".
What is sad is when we were in Soweto earlier this year, the uprising was
started because the black children were being prevented from having an
education! Was not because of living conditions, lack of meaningful jobs,
but because they were going to be required to be taught in Afrikan's (15th
century Dutch).

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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

.... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.

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I ran mine so little over the winter the gas went bad. The Yamaha T-8
kicker had gummed up carb and the Fuel Injected 350 chevy based engine
backfires at higher RPMS. Going to take it out later in the week to see if
the additives and extra fresh gas has allowed it to run good enough to empty
out the tank. At least it is not full with 70 gallons, but only about 20
gallons in the tank.

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

On 6/14/13 12:48 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.




In the summers when I was a kid, there was a two mile stretch of rocky
shoreline near where we stayed and where stripers were known to hang
out. There was enough water to safely float the typical 14' flatbottom
rowboat, but you had to row because your lower unit would strike the
underwater rocks. So we tipped up the motor, and used corks to keep the
sandworms we were dragging up near the surface. Typically, you went out
with one other guy, and each of you rowed one half the distance of the
stretch. A 3 hp Evinrude was the motor of choice to get there and back.
Usually the boat was a mess of worm blood and fish guts by the time we
got back, so we'd detach the motor and run it in a barrel of fresh
water, empty out the boat and then tip it over and flush it out with
sal****er.

Simpler days and, I think, a lot more fun.

But then you make fun of people here with similar boats and interests.


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T do not ever remember Gretwell mocking a small boat. Heck, I ocean fish
at times out of Hobie Outback. More comfortable trolling for salmon out of
the Jetcraft.

On 6/16/2013 6:03 PM, Califbill wrote:
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:07:09 -0400, wrote:


Proof the whole lot of goofballs will talk about anything.

You have to read it this way:

"If I had a boat, I would buy a __________."

... bunch of gas and run the boat several times a week?.

---------------------

I ran mine so little over the winter the gas went bad. The Yamaha T-8
kicker had gummed up carb and the Fuel Injected 350 chevy based engine
backfires at higher RPMS. Going to take it out later in the week to see
if the additives and extra fresh gas has allowed it to run good enough
to empty out the tank. At least it is not full with 70 gallons, but
only about 20 gallons in the tank.


You need to use it more... ;-)

If you just filled it with fresh or added another 20 gallons or so it
should be OK. I've never run my T-8 dry and it's been fine since new
although the longest it's sat was maybe 8-10 weeks and I add Stabil
before idle periods.

Today a neighbor asked if I had a chain-saw so I pulled it out and found
a note I'd left in the case that said "last used 11/19/07". I never
thought it would run on the little bit of old gas in the tank but it
fired up after ~6 pulls...!