On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:54:57 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/28/2012 4:45 PM, Eisboch wrote:

I don't know. I am sure Ford has fixed the problem, but it was a major
failure mode from the late 90's to about 2006.

They fixed it all right. That engine doesn't seem to be available
anymore. They list a 6.2L V8 flex-fuel gasser and a 6.7L V8 diesel.

There are a lot of new RV's on a Ford chassis with the Triton V-10 engine. I believe all the 2013
Georgetown by Forest River, for example, come with the V-10 engine. Here's an example:

http://www.dylansrv.com/inventory_item.asp?id=537137#

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:03:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, December 28, 2012 7:02:36 PM UTC-5, BAR wrote:
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wrote in message

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On Friday, December 28, 2012 8:23:51 AM UTC-5, BAR wrote:



Ford's V10 is a gas sucking pig.



Yeah, but it's a very good hauling machine. With 360 HP and 460 ft/lb

of torque, it'll move stuff. You just don't get that for free if you

have to go gas instead of diesel.



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Ford's V10 is one of the few gasoline engines that has the torque

ratings of some similar sized diesels. It's too bad it developed a

reputation for spitting out spark plugs.



I didn't know that.



The question then becomes does the increased gasoline cost and spark

plug remediation cost more or less than the cost of the vehicle with a

diesel engine?

Good question since diesel engines have their own, unique sets of issues.

Yeah, the cost of diesel fuel!!

Other than that, I've been very pleased with mine.

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:05:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/28/12 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:06:53 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/28/2012 10:39 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:05:05 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

Glad you enjoy shopping so much. I can shop right here in my home town.
When I visit some interesting place, the last thing I want to do is
spend my time indoors shopping.

===

The LL Bean store in Freeport is well worth a visit. It is as much a
cultural icon as it is a store. The only thing I've seen that even
comes close is one of the really big Bass Pro stores like we have here
in south Florida.


Seriously, not trying to troll, but I have never been to anything like
you describe. Can you be more specific? And of course the most important
question, is "is there food there"? LOL!

BPS here in Ft Myers has a pretty good restaurant, a couple of big
aquariums and occasionally they have little product shows.
The parking lot is full of BOATS

There I actually used the "B" word!

They are a Tracker/Mercury dealer.

It is a 2 story megamart for sportsmen with all sorts of outdoorsy
things. (fishing, hunting, camping, hiking, boating, pull toys/skis
and outdoor yard games)


There's a nice BPS just south of BWI Airport in Hanover, MD, that's very
similar, in a huge mall. No restaurant in the BPS store, though. Haven't
been up there in a while, heard there's a casino near the mall now, so
probably won't go back.

Wait until they build the new casino at National Harbor, just south of
the Woodrow Wilson bridge on the Maryland side.

I predict that the casinos in the rest of Maryland will migrate to
National Harbor within 3 to 5 years.

PG County needs something to entice it's government into more graft and corruption. Hell, it's
almost as bad as DC, which some total fools want to see granted statehood.

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says...

In article ,
says...

On 12/28/12 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:06:53 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/28/2012 10:39 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:05:05 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

Glad you enjoy shopping so much. I can shop right here in my home town.
When I visit some interesting place, the last thing I want to do is
spend my time indoors shopping.

===

The LL Bean store in Freeport is well worth a visit. It is as much a
cultural icon as it is a store. The only thing I've seen that even
comes close is one of the really big Bass Pro stores like we have here
in south Florida.


Seriously, not trying to troll, but I have never been to anything like
you describe. Can you be more specific? And of course the most important
question, is "is there food there"? LOL!

BPS here in Ft Myers has a pretty good restaurant, a couple of big
aquariums and occasionally they have little product shows.
The parking lot is full of BOATS

There I actually used the "B" word!

They are a Tracker/Mercury dealer.

It is a 2 story megamart for sportsmen with all sorts of outdoorsy
things. (fishing, hunting, camping, hiking, boating, pull toys/skis
and outdoor yard games)


There's a nice BPS just south of BWI Airport in Hanover, MD, that's very
similar, in a huge mall. No restaurant in the BPS store, though. Haven't
been up there in a while, heard there's a casino near the mall now, so
probably won't go back.

Wait until they build the new casino at National Harbor, just south of
the Woodrow Wilson bridge on the Maryland side.

I predict that the casinos in the rest of Maryland will migrate to
National Harbor within 3 to 5 years.

Maybe that low life deadbeat Harry can win enough to pay his taxes and
the other folks he's cheated out of money.

On 12/29/12 9:11 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:05:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/28/12 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:06:53 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/28/2012 10:39 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:05:05 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

Glad you enjoy shopping so much. I can shop right here in my home town.
When I visit some interesting place, the last thing I want to do is
spend my time indoors shopping.

===

The LL Bean store in Freeport is well worth a visit. It is as much a
cultural icon as it is a store. The only thing I've seen that even
comes close is one of the really big Bass Pro stores like we have here
in south Florida.


Seriously, not trying to troll, but I have never been to anything like
you describe. Can you be more specific? And of course the most important
question, is "is there food there"? LOL!

BPS here in Ft Myers has a pretty good restaurant, a couple of big
aquariums and occasionally they have little product shows.
The parking lot is full of BOATS

There I actually used the "B" word!

They are a Tracker/Mercury dealer.

It is a 2 story megamart for sportsmen with all sorts of outdoorsy
things. (fishing, hunting, camping, hiking, boating, pull toys/skis
and outdoor yard games)


There's a nice BPS just south of BWI Airport in Hanover, MD, that's very
similar, in a huge mall. No restaurant in the BPS store, though. Haven't
been up there in a while, heard there's a casino near the mall now, so
probably won't go back.

Wait until they build the new casino at National Harbor, just south of
the Woodrow Wilson bridge on the Maryland side.

I predict that the casinos in the rest of Maryland will migrate to
National Harbor within 3 to 5 years.

PG County needs something to entice it's government into more graft and corruption. Hell, it's
almost as bad as DC, which some total fools want to see granted statehood.



Are the morons who run your state still planning to force women into
having vaginal probes, or is that now on hold?

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says...

On Friday, December 28, 2012 11:45:37 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 12/28/2012 10:23 PM, Earl wrote:

wrote:

On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote:

wrote:



On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:

In article ,

snip

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen

Because I could.

At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still

leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there.

We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000

miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or

twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever.

Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the

Aspen/Volarie.

I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by

Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old.

I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out

of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too

bad, I did like that old slant six engine.

According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in



history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie.







http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html

You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer Reports

praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All the

problems revealed themselves after I bought mine.

They did and that's a good thing?



What cracks me up is bonnie, always making excuses for stupid **** like

pink cars and now junk cars...

Who's making excuses, MiniMan??
I simply state the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Got a job yet...paying down those numerous judgements, overdue taxes, hospital bills..etc, etc.?

Gee, you could ask Deadbeat Harry the same thing.....

In article , says...

JustWait wrote:
On 12/28/2012 10:23 PM, Earl wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote:
wrote:

On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
In article ,
snip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen
Because I could.
At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still
leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there.
We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000
miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or
twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever.
Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the
Aspen/Volarie.
I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by
Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old.
I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out
of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too
bad, I did like that old slant six engine.
According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in

history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie.



http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html
You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer Reports
praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All the
problems revealed themselves after I bought mine.
They did and that's a good thing?

What cracks me up is bonnie, always making excuses for stupid **** like
pink cars and now junk cars...

Pink car, pink hair...pink is pink.

True, glad you finally agree about Don's chick car.

In article , earl8477
@hotmail.com says...

ESAD wrote:
On 12/28/12 9:47 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 12/27/2012 10:50 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote:
wrote:

On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:

In article ,



snip

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen

Because I could.

At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still
leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there.





We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over
300,000



miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up
once or



twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever.

Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the
Aspen/Volarie.

I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed
by Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two
years old.

I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles
out of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car.
Too bad, I did like that old slant six engine.

According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in

history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie.



http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html

You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer
Reports praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All
the problems revealed themselves after I bought mine.


Hope you learned something from that.

I'm betting not.


The funniest running gag on rec.boats is how you and several others
make negative comments about the possessions of others but never or
hardly ever discuss your own possessions or, of course, post photos of
them.
Did that come up in therapy, deadbeat? You got it wrong and defined
yourself.

Most of us are smart enough not to take pictures of the boxes that our
possessions came in proving that we really do shop at Walmart and Home
Depot.

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:54:57 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/28/2012 4:45 PM, Eisboch wrote:

I don't know. I am sure Ford has fixed the problem, but it was a major
failure mode from the late 90's to about 2006.

They fixed it all right. That engine doesn't seem to be available
anymore. They list a 6.2L V8 flex-fuel gasser and a 6.7L V8 diesel.

There are a lot of new RV's on a Ford chassis with the Triton V-10 engine. I believe all the 2013
Georgetown by Forest River, for example, come with the V-10 engine. Here's an example:

http://www.dylansrv.com/inventory_item.asp?id=537137#

Maybe the Forest River RV is a 2013, but is the chassis a 2013?

In article ,
says...

On 12/29/12 9:11 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:05:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/28/12 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:06:53 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/28/2012 10:39 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:05:05 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

Glad you enjoy shopping so much. I can shop right here in my home town.
When I visit some interesting place, the last thing I want to do is
spend my time indoors shopping.

===

The LL Bean store in Freeport is well worth a visit. It is as much a
cultural icon as it is a store. The only thing I've seen that even
comes close is one of the really big Bass Pro stores like we have here
in south Florida.


Seriously, not trying to troll, but I have never been to anything like
you describe. Can you be more specific? And of course the most important
question, is "is there food there"? LOL!

BPS here in Ft Myers has a pretty good restaurant, a couple of big
aquariums and occasionally they have little product shows.
The parking lot is full of BOATS

There I actually used the "B" word!

They are a Tracker/Mercury dealer.

It is a 2 story megamart for sportsmen with all sorts of outdoorsy
things. (fishing, hunting, camping, hiking, boating, pull toys/skis
and outdoor yard games)


There's a nice BPS just south of BWI Airport in Hanover, MD, that's very
similar, in a huge mall. No restaurant in the BPS store, though. Haven't
been up there in a while, heard there's a casino near the mall now, so
probably won't go back.

Wait until they build the new casino at National Harbor, just south of
the Woodrow Wilson bridge on the Maryland side.

I predict that the casinos in the rest of Maryland will migrate to
National Harbor within 3 to 5 years.

PG County needs something to entice it's government into more graft and corruption. Hell, it's
almost as bad as DC, which some total fools want to see granted statehood.



Are the morons who run your state still planning to force women into
having vaginal probes, or is that now on hold?

I don't know about that, but they ARE asking people to pay their taxes
and other debts.