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On Friday, December 28, 2012 11:45:37 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 12/28/2012 10:23 PM, Earl wrote:

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On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote:


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On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen

Because I could.


At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still


leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there.


We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000


miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or


twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever.


Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the


Aspen/Volarie.


I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by


Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old.


I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out


of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too


bad, I did like that old slant six engine.


According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in




history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie.








http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html


You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer Reports


praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All the


problems revealed themselves after I bought mine.


They did and that's a good thing?




What cracks me up is bonnie, always making excuses for stupid **** like

pink cars and now junk cars...


Who's making excuses, MiniMan??
I simply state the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Got a job yet...paying down those numerous judgements, overdue taxes, hospital bills..etc, etc.?
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JustWait wrote:
On 12/28/2012 10:23 PM, Earl wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:03:03 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote:
wrote:

On Monday, December 24, 2012 2:13:42 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
In article ,
snip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Aspen
Because I could.
At the time I also looked at the new Honda Accord but was still
leery of Japanese cars. Guess I made a mistake there.
We had a Datsun 1200 Sedan. It lasted for about 13 years, over 300,000
miles and it had its oil change once or twice. It was tuned up once or
twice just keep filling it with gas and it would go forever.
Forgot that at the time, Consumer Reports was recommending the
Aspen/Volarie.
I did get the new fenders for no charge and I had it rustproofed by
Bondco but there was a hole in my tailgate before it was two years old.
I kept it for five years and becaused I lived about 18 -20 miles out
of town back then, the road salt really did a job on the car. Too
bad, I did like that old slant six engine.
According to this, they were Consumer Reports most recalled car in

history. Better do more research to back up your BS, Donnie.



http://www.allpar.com/model/fstories.html
You stupid jackass...I purchased a 1977 model...after Consumer Reports
praised the 1st year new Aspen/Volarie models of 1976. All the
problems revealed themselves after I bought mine.

They did and that's a good thing?


What cracks me up is bonnie, always making excuses for stupid **** like
pink cars and now junk cars...


Pink car, pink hair...pink is pink.
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:49:52 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:55:52 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/27/12 11:01 AM,
wrote:
On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote:
On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote:





"GuzzisRule" wrote in message

...





Here ya go!



http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf



Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is

what's called a 'Toy Hauler'

fifth wheel.



---------------------------------------------------



Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it

and had the most miserable week of my life.



My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and

were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my

older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping.

I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy

Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch

installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would

come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford

250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the

dealership.



My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground

in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it

is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other.

The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor

with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool.



Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the

hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every

afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC

units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured

outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood.



One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to

have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young

daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I

looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the

master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of

water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in

the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink

and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into

the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet

vac while the rest started sopping up the water.



Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and

his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her

husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the

road.



By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's

spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had

just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle

snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a

broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids.



So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck

to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the

trailer.

Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop.



The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV

classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada.



BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I

first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to

make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class

A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three,

I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we

eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We

ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it

home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in

it.



Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much

rather live on a boat.









We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV

and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few

days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was

infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much

bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time.



The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he



http://mainestayinn.com/



No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great

breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping

and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at

Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W.

Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were

about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach

and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I

love the Maine coastline.



On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see

relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine

Stay. No bugs.

That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future.
The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born.


Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when
we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad.
There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away,
and it is worth a day's visit.

Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere,
shop and go to a mall.

If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well
worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows
tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery

If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a
great treat.

I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't
spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping.

And you didn't visit the LLBean store?

No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to
do than shop.

The LLBean store has much more than just shopping.

But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing.


Care to enlighten me?

They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop.


How would you know that? They have a tremendous selection of camping gear, but I suppose you buy all
your stuff over the internet.


No, we have these things called stores right in my town! I DO however
buy a lot online.


You skipped the question.
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:11:33 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 12/28/2012 3:01 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/28/12 2:47 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/28/2012 2:13 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 12/28/2012 10:28 AM, wrote:
On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:15:06 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote:
On 12/28/12 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...



On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



In article ,

says...



On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer
wrote:



In article ,

says...



On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer
wrote:



In article ,

says...



On 12/27/12 11:01 AM,
wrote:

On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD
wrote:

On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote:











"GuzzisRule" wrote in message



...











Here ya go!







http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf










Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down
arrow. This is



what's called a 'Toy Hauler'



fifth wheel.







---------------------------------------------------







Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went
"camping" once with it



and had the most miserable week of my life.







My daughter started it all. She and her husband were
into camping and



were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced
Mrs.E and I and my



older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for
"family" camping.



I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought
the Raptor Toy



Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth
wheel hitch



installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the
toy hauler would



come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth
wheel and a Ford



250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the
same day at the



dealership.







My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at
a campground



in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what
the name of it



is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites
beside each other.



The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford
pulled the Raptor



with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty
cool.







Well, that particular week in the mountains of New
Hampshire was the



hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big
thunderstorms every



afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's
with the AC



units running at full blast. When it stopped raining
and we ventured



outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood.







One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's
site trying to



have a beer while swishing away the bugs and
mosquitoes. His young



daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat
talking, I



looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area
door under the



master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and
gallons of



water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the
vanity sink in



the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had
filled the sink



and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and
draining into



the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store
to get a wet



vac while the rest started sopping up the water.







Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure
arrived. My son and



his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My
daughter and her



husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said
goodbye and hit the



road.







By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the
fifth-wheel into it's



spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my
daughter. They had



just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and
their vehicle



snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a
busy road with a



broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying
kids.







So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire
mountains in his truck



to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am,
towing the



trailer.



Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair
shop.







The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple
of the RV



classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in
Canada.







BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping
scene. When I



first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it
would be fun to



make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37'
Pace Arrow class



A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV.
Of the three,



I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the
longest, but we



eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the
Sprinter. We



ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and
drove it



home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of
their travels in



it.







Camping is great for some people. It's just not for
me. I'd much



rather live on a boat.



















We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we
rented an RV



and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island
campground for a few



days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the
island was



infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they
were much



bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the
time.







The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he







http://mainestayinn.com/







No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms,
great



breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights
and shopping



and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too
many meals at



Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and
Mrs. George H.W.



Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the
dock were



about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a
local beach



and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold
chased me out. I



love the Maine coastline.







On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge,
Massachusetts, to see



relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match
for the Maine



Stay. No bugs.



That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to
the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in
the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found
out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was
judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in
the immediate future.

The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from
about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born.





Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like
us), but when

we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it
wasn't that bad.

There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't
that far away,

and it is worth a day's visit.



Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore
somewhere,

shop and go to a mall.



If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're
missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well

worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at
least one, that we were in, allows

tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery



If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean
store, then you're missing out on a

great treat.



I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell
didn't

spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping.



And you didn't visit the LLBean store?



No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better
things to

do than shop.



The LLBean store has much more than just shopping.



But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing.





Care to enlighten me?



They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop.







First, the L.L. Bean flagship store ain't in Kennebunkport. The
flagship

store is huge, and there are other L.L. Bean stores in the same town,

including hunting, fishing, boating stores. If you like what the
stores

sell, the flagship store in Freeport is a great place to visit.



Second, it is a very large, very interesting store with lots of

displays and merchandise that isn't necessarily in the catalog.



Third, if you are interested in what L.L. Bean sells, and you still
have

questions, you can see the actual merchandise at the big store and ask

questions. Sure, you can also do this at any of the L.L. Bean retail

stores, but none of the retail stores has the variety of selection and

sizes on hand as the "home" store.



Fourth, visiting the flagship store of L.L. Bean is an interesting

experience.



I like the L.L. Bean stores. In fact, on our infrequent visits to

Northern Virginia, it is one of three stores there I'll waste time
in at

the big Tysons shopping mall while my wife shops. The other two are
the

Apple store and Restoration Hardware.

I have to get back to get my LL Bean Hunting boots re-soled.
I could mail them from here and get them back but at $45.00 for new
lower rubber portion and shipping both ways etc, it'd probably be
cheaper to just buy a new pair.
I've had the boots since 1993 and they still look great...although the
'chain' type traction patern on the soles has gotten mighty smooth.


I wonder what Krause finds so fascinating about Restoration Hardware.
Neither my wife or my wife were impressed with the one we were in two
weeks ago

Union shop??



Taste.


You got all caught up in the window dressing. I didn't know you were
into towels and bedding and foo foo stuff.


And here I thought there was some cool hardware store at Tyson's Mall that I'd not seen. You're
right, it's a bed bath and beyond place for tax cheats.
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:51:34 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:24:40 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:11:12 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:28:34 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:20:09 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:42:52 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

True, but once you get up to those $300-$500 a night rooms, RV's start looking pretty good!

Not unless you spend more than 3 weeks on the road a year.
Just the amortization of the cost of the RV was more than we spent on
rooms, rentacars and air fare when we ran the numbers with my RV owner
neighbor (based on losing 50% of the purchase price in 5 years).

That was a conservative guess

Well, a big part of that depends on the purchase price of the RV. Ours wasn't near six figures -
unless you include the truck, which I don't 'cause I needed it anyway.

Unless you really need a big truck for something else, you have to
include the truck. Those guys with 5th wheelers look pretty funny at
home depot with a dually.


Those guys with a dually have a *big* dick, or so I've heard. The extra capacity afforded by the
dually is about 1100lbs for the Silverado 2500 diesel. There are a bunch of cons.

I needed that truck to haul stuff with. Actually, the one I had prior to this one hauled stuff, but
I gave it to a nephew.


If I am not picking up something like sheets of plywood I just take my
Prelude. I can get a dozen 2x4 8s or 15 bags of concrete in there.

These are cypress saw mill slats I got from a local mill for trim on
my new book case
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Packing%20honda.jpg


do they stick out the front windows?

I like being able to take a load of trash to the dump and get a truck load of free mulch.


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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:51:00 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/28/2012 12:47 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:44:04 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/27/2012 8:11 PM, wrote:
wrote:

Well, a big part of that depends on the purchase price of the RV. Ours wasn't near six figures -
unless you include the truck, which I don't 'cause I needed it anyway.

Unless you really need a big truck for something else, you have to
include the truck. Those guys with 5th wheelers look pretty funny at
home depot with a dually.

I have a neighbor who bought a big 5th wheel trailer and a Ford F350 V10
a while back. The trailer sits in the driveway and he commutes to work
in the F350. (?)


He probably can't afford the gas to pull the trailer!


They just don't use it. He's an interesting guy. He also has a nice
economical car he could commute in but doesn't. He also has ****ed away
much of his retirement savings with dubious sucker investments. He also
weighs about 350 lbs and literally devours Krispy Kremes by the dozen.
He also is an extreme right wing Rush & Fox News fan. Our wives are
good friends but we don't seem to relate very well.


We have a Krispy Kreme place a couple miles away where they make 'em while you watch. I could easily
eat a dozen with a cup of coffee, which is why I stay away from the damn place. When our Dutch
friends come over, that's one of the first places they want to head for. The other is Dairy Queen.
Luckily, they only come over once every couple years.
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On 12/28/12 2:47 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/28/2012 2:13 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 12/28/2012 10:28 AM,
wrote:
On Friday, December 28, 2012 10:15:06 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote:
On 12/28/12 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...



On 12/27/2012 5:21 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:35 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



In article ,

says...



On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:36:57 -0500, iBoaterer
wrote:



In article ,

says...



On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:18:23 -0500, iBoaterer
wrote:



In article ,

says...



On 12/27/12 11:01 AM,
wrote:

On Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, ESAD wrote:

On 12/27/12 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote:











"GuzzisRule" wrote in message



...











Here ya go!







http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf









Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down
arrow. This is



what's called a 'Toy Hauler'



fifth wheel.







---------------------------------------------------







Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went
"camping" once with it



and had the most miserable week of my life.







My daughter started it all. She and her husband were
into camping and



were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced
Mrs.E and I and my



older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for
"family" camping.



I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought
the Raptor Toy



Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth
wheel hitch



installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the
toy hauler would



come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth
wheel and a Ford



250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the
same day at the



dealership.







My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at
a campground



in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what
the name of it



is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites
beside each other.



The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford
pulled the Raptor



with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty
cool.







Well, that particular week in the mountains of New
Hampshire was the



hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big
thunderstorms every



afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's
with the AC



units running at full blast. When it stopped raining
and we ventured



outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood.







One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's
site trying to



have a beer while swishing away the bugs and
mosquitoes. His young



daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat
talking, I



looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area
door under the



master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and
gallons of



water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the
vanity sink in



the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had
filled the sink



and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and
draining into



the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store
to get a wet



vac while the rest started sopping up the water.







Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure
arrived. My son and



his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My
daughter and her



husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said
goodbye and hit the



road.







By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the
fifth-wheel into it's



spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my
daughter. They had



just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and
their vehicle



snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a
busy road with a



broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying
kids.







So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire
mountains in his truck



to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am,
towing the



trailer.



Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair
shop.







The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple
of the RV



classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in
Canada.







BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping
scene. When I



first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it
would be fun to



make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37'
Pace Arrow class



A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV.
Of the three,



I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the
longest, but we



eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the
Sprinter. We



ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and
drove it



home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of
their travels in



it.







Camping is great for some people. It's just not for
me. I'd much



rather live on a boat.



















We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we
rented an RV



and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island
campground for a few



days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the
island was



infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they
were much



bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the
time.







The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he







http://mainestayinn.com/







No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms,
great



breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights
and shopping



and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too
many meals at



Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and
Mrs. George H.W.



Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the
dock were



about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a
local beach



and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold
chased me out. I



love the Maine coastline.







On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge,
Massachusetts, to see



relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match
for the Maine



Stay. No bugs.



That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to
the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in
the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found
out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was
judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in
the immediate future.

The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from
about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born.





Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like
us), but when

we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it
wasn't that bad.

There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't
that far away,

and it is worth a day's visit.



Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore
somewhere,

shop and go to a mall.



If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're
missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well

worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at
least one, that we were in, allows

tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery



If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean
store, then you're missing out on a

great treat.



I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell
didn't

spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping.



And you didn't visit the LLBean store?



No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better
things to

do than shop.



The LLBean store has much more than just shopping.



But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing.





Care to enlighten me?



They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop.







First, the L.L. Bean flagship store ain't in Kennebunkport. The
flagship

store is huge, and there are other L.L. Bean stores in the same town,

including hunting, fishing, boating stores. If you like what the stores

sell, the flagship store in Freeport is a great place to visit.



Second, it is a very large, very interesting store with lots of

displays and merchandise that isn't necessarily in the catalog.



Third, if you are interested in what L.L. Bean sells, and you still
have

questions, you can see the actual merchandise at the big store and ask

questions. Sure, you can also do this at any of the L.L. Bean retail

stores, but none of the retail stores has the variety of selection and

sizes on hand as the "home" store.



Fourth, visiting the flagship store of L.L. Bean is an interesting

experience.



I like the L.L. Bean stores. In fact, on our infrequent visits to

Northern Virginia, it is one of three stores there I'll waste time
in at

the big Tysons shopping mall while my wife shops. The other two are the

Apple store and Restoration Hardware.

I have to get back to get my LL Bean Hunting boots re-soled.
I could mail them from here and get them back but at $45.00 for new
lower rubber portion and shipping both ways etc, it'd probably be
cheaper to just buy a new pair.
I've had the boots since 1993 and they still look great...although the
'chain' type traction patern on the soles has gotten mighty smooth.


I wonder what Krause finds so fascinating about Restoration Hardware.
Neither my wife or my wife were impressed with the one we were in two
weeks ago


Union shop??



Taste.


Taste? From a low life who can't even pay his friggin' taxes???
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Here ya go!



http://www.rvwholesalers.com/resourc...aptor_2012.pdf



Everything you want in one place. Keep clicking the down arrow. This is

what's called a 'Toy Hauler'

fifth wheel.



---------------------------------------------------



Looks familiar. We had the 377-SE version. Went "camping" once with it

and had the most miserable week of my life.



My daughter started it all. She and her husband were into camping and

were purchasing a new travel trailer. She convinced Mrs.E and I and my

older son and his wife to get a trailer as well for "family" camping.

I saw it as a good excuse to get a new truck, so I bought the Raptor Toy

Hauler along with a Ford 350 Diesel and had the fifth wheel hitch

installed. I had a Harley at the time and figured the toy hauler would

come in handy. My son bought a slightly smaller fifth wheel and a Ford

250 with the V-10. We all picked up our new RV's the same day at the

dealership.



My daughter made reservations for all of us for a week at a campground

in New Hampshire that they visited often. I forget what the name of it

is. I call it "Marty Moose Land". We all had sites beside each other.

The trip to the campground was uneventful. The Ford pulled the Raptor

with no problem and I thought this was going to be pretty cool.



Well, that particular week in the mountains of New Hampshire was the

hottest, most humid week I've spent anywhere. Big thunderstorms every

afternoon kept us all huddled inside our respective RV's with the AC

units running at full blast. When it stopped raining and we ventured

outside, the mosquitoes were waiting to draw blood.



One humid, sultry afternoon, we were sitting at my son's site trying to

have a beer while swishing away the bugs and mosquitoes. His young

daughter was playing inside his fifth wheel. As we sat talking, I

looked up and saw water seeping out of the storage area door under the

master bedroom of the RV. Got up, opened the door, and gallons of

water started pouring out. His daughter had plugged the vanity sink in

the bedroom and had the faucets turned on full. It had filled the sink

and was overflowing everywhere, soaking the carpets and draining into

the storage area. I took off to find a hardware store to get a wet

vac while the rest started sopping up the water.



Gracefully, the last day of our camping adventure arrived. My son and

his family left, and then us by early afternoon. My daughter and her

husband wanted to stay a little longer, so we said goodbye and hit the

road.



By 8pm, I had just arrived home and backed the fifth-wheel into it's

spot at our house when the phone rang. It was my daughter. They had

just left the campsite, got a mile down the road and their vehicle

snapped a tie rod. They were sitting on the side of a busy road with a

broken SUV, their new, 28' travel trailer and two crying kids.



So, dear old Dad heads back to the New Hampshire mountains in his truck

to rescue them. Finally got back to their house by 2am, towing the

trailer.

Their truck was put on a flatbed and taken to a repair shop.



The next day I listed the Raptor "For Sale" in a couple of the RV

classifieds. Sold it a few weeks later to a buyer in Canada.



BTW, that wasn't our first attempt at trying the camping scene. When I

first retired and we wintered in Florida, we thought it would be fun to

make the trips back and forth in a RV. We tried a 37' Pace Arrow class

A motorhome, a Chinook Glacier and a Dodge Sprinter RV. Of the three,

I liked the Sprinter the most and we owned it the longest, but we

eventually sold the Florida house and rarely used the Sprinter. We

ended up selling it to a guy in Missouri who flew out and drove it

home. He and his wife still send us email pictures of their travels in

it.



Camping is great for some people. It's just not for me. I'd much

rather live on a boat.









We've been to Maine a few times. On one of those trips, we rented an RV

and loaded it onto a ferry to take us to an island campground for a few

days. The RV, the island, and so forth were fine, but the island was

infested with biting bugs. They weren't mosquitoes, they were much

bigger, and it was hot and humid, too. Misery most of the time.



The next time we went to Maine, we stayed he



http://mainestayinn.com/



No annoying insects indoors or outdoors, beautiful rooms, great

breakfasts, and within walking distance of lots of sights and shopping

and the waterfront. My wife was *much* happier! We ate too many meals at

Mabel's Lobster House, purportedly where President and Mrs. George H.W.

Bush had many meals when he was healthier. Lobsters at the dock were

about $2.50 a pound. I braved walking into the water at a local beach

and got in about halfway up to my knees before the cold chased me out. I

love the Maine coastline.



On the way back, we stayed at a B&B in Cambridge, Massachusetts, to see

relatives and old friends. Nice enough place, but no match for the Maine

Stay. No bugs.

That spot looks nice. I've always wanted to get down to the Seashore Trolly Museum in that area. I was serious in the summer of 2011 but after contacting the museum found out that the main attraction for me (Birney Safety Car) was judged too run down to put on display or even to fix up in the immediate future.
The birney car was the only streetcar used in Halifax from about 1921 until 1949..the year I was born.


Kennebunkport can get a little crowded with tourists (like us), but when
we were there, in the height of the tourist season, it wasn't that bad.
There's lots to see in that part of Maine. LL Bean isn't that far away,
and it is worth a day's visit.

Yeah, that's what I want to see and do when I go to explore somewhere,
shop and go to a mall.

If you've not traveled to Maine and seen the sights, you're missing a lot. Kennebunkport is well
worth a stop, with campgrounds right outside of town (and at least one, that we were in, allows
tents!). http://hemlockgrovecampground.com/photo-gallery

If you visit Kennebunkport and you *don't* visit the LLBean store, then you're missing out on a
great treat.

I've been to Maine on two different occasions. I sure as hell didn't
spend my time holed up in a hotel and shopping.

And you didn't visit the LLBean store?

No, I can buy LL Bean stuff from their catalog. I had better things to
do than shop.

The LLBean store has much more than just shopping.

But, I understand your reluctance to engage in such a thing.


Care to enlighten me?

They have a lot of touristy things to get you there to shop.

How would you know that? They have a tremendous selection of camping gear, but I suppose you buy all
your stuff over the internet.


No, we have these things called stores right in my town! I DO however
buy a lot online.


You skipped the question.


How would I know that? Well, dummy, there are online videos, pictures,
reviews, blogs, stories, and I know people who've been there.
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