On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:09:29 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:37:48 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?

Last time I sailed, I was given a choice, and I put mine on. I was
told it would inflate by water pressure, so I didn't have to worry
about getting sprayed. It seemed pretty comfortable, but after a while
got annoying, so I took it off.



And therein lies the problem - discomfiture.

The last thing I need when I'm sailing is some hot and uncomfortable life
jacket of any kind chafing on me. I'd rather sit in the cockpit under the
shade of the bimini with shorts and bare-chested and enjoy the sun, wind and
water unencumbered with a bunch of crap hanging off of my body.



Wilbur Hubbard


When I sailed it was pretty cold, so there wasn't much to do but stay
behind the black canvas (dodger). Even over the clothes (several
layers) it still started to bother me, and it there was no real
possibility of falling off.

Seems like maybe government officials should worry more about drug
runners than people minding their own business on a sailboat?

"Jessica B" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:09:29 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:37:48 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?

Last time I sailed, I was given a choice, and I put mine on. I was
told it would inflate by water pressure, so I didn't have to worry
about getting sprayed. It seemed pretty comfortable, but after a while
got annoying, so I took it off.



And therein lies the problem - discomfiture.

The last thing I need when I'm sailing is some hot and uncomfortable life
jacket of any kind chafing on me. I'd rather sit in the cockpit under the
shade of the bimini with shorts and bare-chested and enjoy the sun, wind
and
water unencumbered with a bunch of crap hanging off of my body.



Wilbur Hubbard


When I sailed it was pretty cold, so there wasn't much to do but stay
behind the black canvas (dodger). Even over the clothes (several
layers) it still started to bother me, and it there was no real
possibility of falling off.


You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.


Seems like maybe government officials should worry more about drug
runners than people minding their own business on a sailboat?


Exactly. But, those coward government officials won't mess with people who
shoot at them like big illegal drugs cartels. They'd rather harass
defenseless, law-abiding citizens who are minding their own business trying
to enjoy life.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:20:03 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:09:29 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:37:48 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I just recently bought a couple of inflatable PFDs.

One of the standing orders on my boat is that if you
are on deck and out of the cockpit you must wear your
float.

But I'm curious about what the rest of you think.
Do you wear them or not?

Last time I sailed, I was given a choice, and I put mine on. I was
told it would inflate by water pressure, so I didn't have to worry
about getting sprayed. It seemed pretty comfortable, but after a while
got annoying, so I took it off.



And therein lies the problem - discomfiture.

The last thing I need when I'm sailing is some hot and uncomfortable life
jacket of any kind chafing on me. I'd rather sit in the cockpit under the
shade of the bimini with shorts and bare-chested and enjoy the sun, wind
and
water unencumbered with a bunch of crap hanging off of my body.



Wilbur Hubbard


When I sailed it was pretty cold, so there wasn't much to do but stay
behind the black canvas (dodger). Even over the clothes (several
layers) it still started to bother me, and it there was no real
possibility of falling off.


You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.

I think I heard a report of snow in Carmel! That's amazing. So much
for this global warming nonsense. Brrr is right.

No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.


Seems like maybe government officials should worry more about drug
runners than people minding their own business on a sailboat?


Exactly. But, those coward government officials won't mess with people who
shoot at them like big illegal drugs cartels. They'd rather harass
defenseless, law-abiding citizens who are minding their own business trying
to enjoy life.

Wilbur Hubbard



I'm not much for people doing drugs, but if they don't hurt anyone
perhaps it's not so bad. I have to participate in regular drug testing
(work req.), so I'm not going to risk my job. I smoked a joint in
college. It just wasn't that interesting.

"Jessica B" wrote in message
news snip


You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees
outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.

I think I heard a report of snow in Carmel! That's amazing. So much
for this global warming nonsense. Brrr is right.


But the brainwashed liberal drones who believe the human-caused global
warming lie will tell you that one of the things global warming does is to
cause cold and snowy winters. They will also tell you that global warming
can cause warm, dry winters. They will tell you anything that strikes their
moronic fancy and they will wholeheartedly believe every contradictory bit
of it. Liberals are simply unable to think analytically. Actually, they
don't really think at all; they just parrot the party-line propaganda.


No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.

Nothing but a modern day Sodom and Gommorah. I wouldn't mind seeing a giant
earthquake that sinks the self-satisfied sodomite population to the bottom
of the ocean. Well, perhaps that's being a bit too harsh. How about 95% of
the self-satisfied sodomites?

Seems like maybe government officials should worry more about drug
runners than people minding their own business on a sailboat?


Exactly. But, those coward government officials won't mess with people who
shoot at them like big illegal drugs cartels. They'd rather harass
defenseless, law-abiding citizens who are minding their own business
trying
to enjoy life.

I'm not much for people doing drugs, but if they don't hurt anyone
perhaps it's not so bad. I have to participate in regular drug testing
(work req.), so I'm not going to risk my job. I smoked a joint in
college. It just wasn't that interesting.

I hope you weren't a dumb as Bill Clinton who didn't inhale. LOL! Yah,
right!

We had to do random drug test where I worked, too. And it was a
zero-tolerance workplace. One positive result and you were history. Yet,
some people got tested and got fired - marijuana mostly, one idiot for
cocaine. So stupid to have warped priorities that put smoking dope above a
well-paying job with excellent benefits. Even if you were driving along in a
company car minding your own business and some fool ran into you you were
tested for drugs. Any accident actually, if you hurt yourself like spraining
an ankle, cutting yourself badly or anything like that which needed medical
attention you were required to **** in a bottle for them. If it was positive
you were fired and you got no workers comp either.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
news snip


You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees
outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.

I think I heard a report of snow in Carmel! That's amazing. So much
for this global warming nonsense. Brrr is right.


But the brainwashed liberal drones who believe the human-caused global
warming lie will tell you that one of the things global warming does is to
cause cold and snowy winters. They will also tell you that global warming
can cause warm, dry winters. They will tell you anything that strikes their
moronic fancy and they will wholeheartedly believe every contradictory bit
of it. Liberals are simply unable to think analytically. Actually, they
don't really think at all; they just parrot the party-line propaganda.

If there's one thing I appreciate is a consistent explanation, but as
you point out, it doesn't seem to happen from that side of the debate.
I think there is climate change happening, but that's always been the
case. I read somewhere sun spots are on the rise (more than usual in
the cycles). What about that???


No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.

Nothing but a modern day Sodom and Gommorah. I wouldn't mind seeing a giant
earthquake that sinks the self-satisfied sodomite population to the bottom
of the ocean. Well, perhaps that's being a bit too harsh. How about 95% of
the self-satisfied sodomites?

I don't wish anyone dead. It's a pretty wild place, and it just gets
old after a while. I really don't want to have that sort of behavior
in my face over and over. I'm sure there are normal people who live
there... how they can stand it though is beyond me.

Seems like maybe government officials should worry more about drug
runners than people minding their own business on a sailboat?


Exactly. But, those coward government officials won't mess with people who
shoot at them like big illegal drugs cartels. They'd rather harass
defenseless, law-abiding citizens who are minding their own business
trying
to enjoy life.

I'm not much for people doing drugs, but if they don't hurt anyone
perhaps it's not so bad. I have to participate in regular drug testing
(work req.), so I'm not going to risk my job. I smoked a joint in
college. It just wasn't that interesting.

I hope you weren't a dumb as Bill Clinton who didn't inhale. LOL! Yah,
right!

It just didn't do anything for me. Ok. I don't like Clinton.. never
did, but he was really handsome when he was younger... lol


We had to do random drug test where I worked, too. And it was a
zero-tolerance workplace. One positive result and you were history. Yet,
some people got tested and got fired - marijuana mostly, one idiot for
cocaine. So stupid to have warped priorities that put smoking dope above a
well-paying job with excellent benefits. Even if you were driving along in a
company car minding your own business and some fool ran into you you were
tested for drugs. Any accident actually, if you hurt yourself like spraining
an ankle, cutting yourself badly or anything like that which needed medical
attention you were required to **** in a bottle for them. If it was positive
you were fired and you got no workers comp either.

Wilbur Hubbard



I think if you're job is on the line (certainly these days!), why
would you risk it?

We have basically the same policy... all injuries have to be reported,
you have to see someone, and you have to take a drug test. I got
something in my eye a couple of years ago... it was sort of stupid to
have to take a drug test, but those were the rules.

I don't think you should get any workers comp if you're stoned and you
get hurt.

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
news snip


You need to sail where it's warm or hot. It's ever so much more fun. The
water is also warm and swimming and snorkeling is just great. I heard
they
might be getting SNOW in San Francisco today. Brrrr. It's 83 degrees
outside
today with a nice 10-12mph south wind.

I think I heard a report of snow in Carmel! That's amazing. So much
for this global warming nonsense. Brrr is right.


But the brainwashed liberal drones who believe the human-caused global
warming lie will tell you that one of the things global warming does is to
cause cold and snowy winters. They will also tell you that global warming
can cause warm, dry winters. They will tell you anything that strikes
their
moronic fancy and they will wholeheartedly believe every contradictory bit
of it. Liberals are simply unable to think analytically. Actually, they
don't really think at all; they just parrot the party-line propaganda.

If there's one thing I appreciate is a consistent explanation, but as
you point out, it doesn't seem to happen from that side of the debate.
I think there is climate change happening, but that's always been the
case. I read somewhere sun spots are on the rise (more than usual in
the cycles). What about that???

Yours is the reasonable view. Saying "climate change" is redundant as that's
what climate does - it changes. It goes through natural and normal cycles.
There have been numerous warm periods and numerous ice ages throughout
history and well before mankind arrived on the planet. We happen to be in an
interglacial period right now and it's likely to be relatively short-lived
if past history is any kind of predictor of future performance.

It would be lucicrous to ignore Sol's energy output as the primary factor
affecting the various planets' temperatures. Even Venus with it's runaway
greenhouse effect will be slightly hotter during a cycle of greater solar
energy output. Not only are the polar ice caps melting somewhat on Earth but
the Martian polar ice and dry ice caps are also melting somewhat. Is there
man-made global warming on Mars. Yah right!




No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.

Nothing but a modern day Sodom and Gommorah. I wouldn't mind seeing a
giant
earthquake that sinks the self-satisfied sodomite population to the bottom
of the ocean. Well, perhaps that's being a bit too harsh. How about 95% of
the self-satisfied sodomites?

I don't wish anyone dead. It's a pretty wild place, and it just gets
old after a while. I really don't want to have that sort of behavior
in my face over and over. I'm sure there are normal people who live
there... how they can stand it though is beyond me.


God apparently wants them dead as He did destroy Soddom and Gomorrah for
much the same thing that's going on in San Francisco and Key West and New
Orleans today. But, you're right, it's up to God to decide who lives and who
dies and we humans shouldn't wish death on anybody - even disgusting creeps,
so I take it back.



snip

I hope you weren't a dumb as Bill Clinton who didn't inhale. LOL! Yah,
right!

It just didn't do anything for me. Ok. I don't like Clinton.. never
did, but he was really handsome when he was younger... lol

Freaking hillbilly, IMHO.


We had to do random drug test where I worked, too. And it was a
zero-tolerance workplace. One positive result and you were history. Yet,
some people got tested and got fired - marijuana mostly, one idiot for
cocaine. So stupid to have warped priorities that put smoking dope above a
well-paying job with excellent benefits. Even if you were driving along in
a
company car minding your own business and some fool ran into you you were
tested for drugs. Any accident actually, if you hurt yourself like
spraining
an ankle, cutting yourself badly or anything like that which needed
medical
attention you were required to **** in a bottle for them. If it was
positive
you were fired and you got no workers comp either.

I think if your job is on the line (certainly these days!), why
would you risk it?

Because one is dumb as a box of rocks? LOL!

We have basically the same policy... all injuries have to be reported,
you have to see someone, and you have to take a drug test. I got
something in my eye a couple of years ago... it was sort of stupid to
have to take a drug test, but those were the rules.

We must be twins. I also got something poked in my eye - a sharp thorn from
a tree branch when I was working pinpointing a small water main leak in the
brush alongside of the roadway. It bloodied the white part of my eye so I
had to go see an eye doc. Automatic drug test. But, I didn't do drugs so, of
course it came back negative. I always worried about a blotched test where
some Rube in the lab did something wrong or mixed up the specimens or
something so it came back positive. But, they claimed to do double-blind
testing to rule out that sort of mistake.


I don't think you should get any workers comp if you're stoned and you
get hurt.


Agreed but with the caveat of responsibility. If you get accidently hurt
because of somebody else's negligence it's not really fair to punish you
even if you were stoned. Seems to me it would only be fair if your being
stoned contributed to or caused the accident.

Wilbur Hubbard

In article s.com,
llid says...

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

SNIP



No interest in San Fran... sorry. It's fun to visit for a few days,
after that it's just to weird.

Nothing but a modern day Sodom and Gommorah. I wouldn't mind seeing a
giant
earthquake that sinks the self-satisfied sodomite population to the bottom
of the ocean. Well, perhaps that's being a bit too harsh. How about 95% of
the self-satisfied sodomites?


If they're "self-satisfied", aren't they Onanists, and not sodomites?
;-)


Mark Borgerson