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On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 18:35:25 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Jessica is young, enthusiastic, beautiful, intelligent, conservative,
fit,
productive and just plain captivating. Jeezz, what else could a man want
in
a woman? Just to meet her one time in person and do a little sailing
would
be heaven.

I think she's in New Zealand. You should fly out to meet her.


New Zealand?? Where did you get that? Pacific Time Wayne (Southern
Cali).





He might be referring to some young woman who is attempting a
circumnavigation.

Can't recall her last name.


I think I'll pass on that. Maybe in a plane. :-)
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He might be referring to some young woman who is attempting a
circumnavigation.

Can't recall her last name.


I think I'll pass on that. Maybe in a plane. :-)



Or a luxurious cruise ship where you had all the comforts of home and then
some . . .


Nope, I think world voyaging on a small sailboat is for masochists. Coastal
cruising, on the other hand, is really a nice challenge and physically
enjoyable. You'd love some of the deserted beaches in the Bahamas - miles of
sand with nary a soul to be seen. There was this one long stretch of beach I
really liked on the north end of Great Guana. I'd anchor on the bay side and
dinghy to shore. Then I'd walk across the island (about a quarter mile wide)
to the beach on the ocean side. Then I'd run barefoot around the north end
of the island and then on to the bayside where the beach petered out. Then I
would swim along the shore back to the boat. All told about a three mile
round trip. Sometimes I didn't see anyone the whole time. Nice!


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On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:27:15 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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He might be referring to some young woman who is attempting a
circumnavigation.

Can't recall her last name.


I think I'll pass on that. Maybe in a plane. :-)



Or a luxurious cruise ship where you had all the comforts of home and then
some . . .


I would do that, but I think most of the people who go on those things
are overweight and all they do is eat the entire time. At least there
are some limitations on planes about actually fitting into a seat! I
had a cross-country flight last year (LA to NY) and asked to move. The
guy was grossly fat and hanging into my seat.



Nope, I think world voyaging on a small sailboat is for masochists. Coastal
cruising, on the other hand, is really a nice challenge and physically
enjoyable. You'd love some of the deserted beaches in the Bahamas - miles of
sand with nary a soul to be seen. There was this one long stretch of beach I
really liked on the north end of Great Guana. I'd anchor on the bay side and
dinghy to shore. Then I'd walk across the island (about a quarter mile wide)
to the beach on the ocean side. Then I'd run barefoot around the north end
of the island and then on to the bayside where the beach petered out. Then I
would swim along the shore back to the boat. All told about a three mile
round trip. Sometimes I didn't see anyone the whole time. Nice!


Seems like all the interesting things happen close to the shoreline,
so why spend weeks in the middle of the ocean? Well, I guess for some
it's fun.

I guess I'd be a bit worried about leaving the boat and then coming
back and it wasn't there any more. I'm sure you're really good at
anchoring, but... Also, what if someone takes the boat? It might be a
long walk (or swim) home.
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Or a luxurious cruise ship where you had all the comforts of home and then
some . . .


I would do that, but I think most of the people who go on those things
are overweight and all they do is eat the entire time. At least there
are some limitations on planes about actually fitting into a seat! I
had a cross-country flight last year (LA to NY) and asked to move. The
guy was grossly fat and hanging into my seat.


Probably there are a lot of obese folks as I hear tell the food is available
almost 24/7.

Ewwww, I used to hate that when I flew a lot. End up with a middle seat
sandwiched between two fatties who sort of ooze over into my space. Of
course, their love handles take up both armrests so you sit there all
scrunched into a small space. And, I've noticed that many fat people must
worry about if they stink because both men and women seem to go extra heavy
on the cheap perfume or cologne. I hate that. Gives me a headache. I'd
rather smell BO than cheap perfumes and colognes.


Nope, I think world voyaging on a small sailboat is for masochists.
Coastal
cruising, on the other hand, is really a nice challenge and physically
enjoyable. You'd love some of the deserted beaches in the Bahamas - miles
of
sand with nary a soul to be seen. There was this one long stretch of beach
I
really liked on the north end of Great Guana. I'd anchor on the bay side
and
dinghy to shore. Then I'd walk across the island (about a quarter mile
wide)
to the beach on the ocean side. Then I'd run barefoot around the north end
of the island and then on to the bayside where the beach petered out. Then
I
would swim along the shore back to the boat. All told about a three mile
round trip. Sometimes I didn't see anyone the whole time. Nice!


Seems like all the interesting things happen close to the shoreline,
so why spend weeks in the middle of the ocean? Well, I guess for some
it's fun.


Coastal cruising is where the adventure is. There is always a challenge -
more like driving on the back roads instead of the interstate highways. Just
so much more to see and do and more to have to pay attention to. It's never
boring or at least I've never gotten bored with it. The open ocean voyaging
people go for long periods of routine and that's what they seem to like.

I guess I'd be a bit worried about leaving the boat and then coming
back and it wasn't there any more. I'm sure you're really good at
anchoring, but... Also, what if someone takes the boat? It might be a
long walk (or swim) home.



People stealing a sailboat is pretty rare as they are so slow and easy to
catch up with. I don't worry about that at all. I do worry about somebody
coming aboard and stealing things when I'm ashore out of sight of the boat.
One time in the Bahamas there was questionable surroundings so as I dinghied
ashore I waved at the boat as if I was waving to somebody on board. Later
on, on shore some native asked if I had crew aboard as he saw me waving.
LOL. Simple insurance!


If anchored and going ashore in dubious weather conditions (like the
possibility of thunderstorms and strong gusty winds) I make sure to put down
two anchors and dive them in if the holding is questionable. Usually, I just
wait for decent weather. Even if MY anchors hold there is always the less
skilled sailors whose boats can and do drag all over the place and I don't
want them dragging down on my boat and damaging it.






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On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:40:04 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Or a luxurious cruise ship where you had all the comforts of home and then
some . . .


I would do that, but I think most of the people who go on those things
are overweight and all they do is eat the entire time. At least there
are some limitations on planes about actually fitting into a seat! I
had a cross-country flight last year (LA to NY) and asked to move. The
guy was grossly fat and hanging into my seat.


Probably there are a lot of obese folks as I hear tell the food is available
almost 24/7.


I think it's getting worse. Honestly, some people should not go to the
beach!

Ewwww, I used to hate that when I flew a lot. End up with a middle seat
sandwiched between two fatties who sort of ooze over into my space. Of
course, their love handles take up both armrests so you sit there all
scrunched into a small space. And, I've noticed that many fat people must
worry about if they stink because both men and women seem to go extra heavy
on the cheap perfume or cologne. I hate that. Gives me a headache. I'd
rather smell BO than cheap perfumes and colognes.


I might have to take a flight in the next couple of months, so thanks
for reminding me!


Nope, I think world voyaging on a small sailboat is for masochists.
Coastal
cruising, on the other hand, is really a nice challenge and physically
enjoyable. You'd love some of the deserted beaches in the Bahamas - miles
of
sand with nary a soul to be seen. There was this one long stretch of beach
I
really liked on the north end of Great Guana. I'd anchor on the bay side
and
dinghy to shore. Then I'd walk across the island (about a quarter mile
wide)
to the beach on the ocean side. Then I'd run barefoot around the north end
of the island and then on to the bayside where the beach petered out. Then
I
would swim along the shore back to the boat. All told about a three mile
round trip. Sometimes I didn't see anyone the whole time. Nice!


Seems like all the interesting things happen close to the shoreline,
so why spend weeks in the middle of the ocean? Well, I guess for some
it's fun.


Coastal cruising is where the adventure is. There is always a challenge -
more like driving on the back roads instead of the interstate highways. Just
so much more to see and do and more to have to pay attention to. It's never
boring or at least I've never gotten bored with it. The open ocean voyaging
people go for long periods of routine and that's what they seem to like.


To each his own, but I'd rather be near land. :-)

I guess I'd be a bit worried about leaving the boat and then coming
back and it wasn't there any more. I'm sure you're really good at
anchoring, but... Also, what if someone takes the boat? It might be a
long walk (or swim) home.



People stealing a sailboat is pretty rare as they are so slow and easy to
catch up with. I don't worry about that at all. I do worry about somebody
coming aboard and stealing things when I'm ashore out of sight of the boat.
One time in the Bahamas there was questionable surroundings so as I dinghied
ashore I waved at the boat as if I was waving to somebody on board. Later
on, on shore some native asked if I had crew aboard as he saw me waving.
LOL. Simple insurance!


Oh yeah... duhh.. not like a power boat.

If anchored and going ashore in dubious weather conditions (like the
possibility of thunderstorms and strong gusty winds) I make sure to put down
two anchors and dive them in if the holding is questionable. Usually, I just
wait for decent weather. Even if MY anchors hold there is always the less
skilled sailors whose boats can and do drag all over the place and I don't
want them dragging down on my boat and damaging it.


Two of the front? I guess you could put them away from each other
somehow. Otherwise they'd get all tangled. How deep do you anchor
typically? I guess in the Keys it must be pretty shallow... like 10 to
20 feet? If less than that don't you worry about waves picking up the
boat and letting it land on the bottom.. or is that impossible?


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I think it's getting worse. Honestly, some people should not go to the
beach!


It can get really really bad on the beaches around here. It's the Canadian
snowbird problem. Not only are most of them obese but they are totally white
and pasty-skinned while the women are fond of thong bikinis and the men
Speedos. Sometimes it's difficult not to wretch at the sight of them.


I might have to take a flight in the next couple of months, so thanks
for reminding me!


You're welcome. ;-) Perhaps you'll think of me when you're all crammed in
there . . .

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Two (anchors) of(f) the front? I guess you could put them away from each
other somehow. Otherwise they'd get all tangled. How deep do you anchor
typically? I guess in the Keys it must be pretty shallow... like 10 to
20 feet? If less than that don't you worry about waves picking up the
boat and letting it land on the bottom.. or is that impossible?



You've sure got a good head on your shoulders, girl. Yes, two anchors off
the bow as in "Bahamian Style" which is anchors placed about 60 degrees
apart as described by the angle of the anchor rodes. In a tidal current they
are places slightly up current and slight down current so when the tide and
current changes the boat still lies between both with relatively equal
pulls. In a wind only situation one places the anchors more like 90-120
degrees apart and this holds the bow directly into the wind and it doesn't
sheer around.

I generally prefer to anchor in relatively shallow water - around six feet
at mean low water. Yes, the Keys have very shallow water in many places. As
for waves picking up the boat and slamming it on the bottom that's not
likely to happen in wind-generated wave action, at least. See, it's the
depth of the water that determines the height of the wave and the depth of
the wave trough in shallow water. In six-foot deep water the largest
wind-generated wave possible would be about three feet. So, that would still
give a three-foot cushion for a 3-foot draught boot in one fathom of depth -
one fathom being six feet.

Forgive me for getting a bit technical, Jennifer, sweetheart. I know you can
handle it as you are as intelligent as you are beautiful (and that's
intelligent almost beyond belief). But, I imagine being technical might be
quite the mental challenge for the likes of Bruce et al. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


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I think it's getting worse. Honestly, some people should not go to the
beach!


It can get really really bad on the beaches around here. It's the Canadian
snowbird problem. Not only are most of them obese but they are totally white
and pasty-skinned while the women are fond of thong bikinis and the men
Speedos. Sometimes it's difficult not to wretch at the sight of them.


Ok, well, I can get pasty. :}

I might have to take a flight in the next couple of months, so thanks
for reminding me!


You're welcome. ;-) Perhaps you'll think of me when you're all crammed in
there . . .


Next to obese people? Nah... I'll be thinking of someone in better
shape than that!

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Two (anchors) of(f) the front? I guess you could put them away from each
other somehow. Otherwise they'd get all tangled. How deep do you anchor
typically? I guess in the Keys it must be pretty shallow... like 10 to
20 feet? If less than that don't you worry about waves picking up the
boat and letting it land on the bottom.. or is that impossible?



You've sure got a good head on your shoulders, girl. Yes, two anchors off
the bow as in "Bahamian Style" which is anchors placed about 60 degrees
apart as described by the angle of the anchor rodes. In a tidal current they
are places slightly up current and slight down current so when the tide and
current changes the boat still lies between both with relatively equal
pulls. In a wind only situation one places the anchors more like 90-120
degrees apart and this holds the bow directly into the wind and it doesn't
sheer around.


So, that's what they do in the Bahamas? I've never been, but it's
pretty close to you? How do you get the second anchor in the right
place? You can't put them in at the same time, so you must have to get
the boat to the second spot. It must be tough to judge where it is in
relation to the first one, since it's on the bottom.

I generally prefer to anchor in relatively shallow water - around six feet
at mean low water. Yes, the Keys have very shallow water in many places. As
for waves picking up the boat and slamming it on the bottom that's not
likely to happen in wind-generated wave action, at least. See, it's the
depth of the water that determines the height of the wave and the depth of
the wave trough in shallow water. In six-foot deep water the largest
wind-generated wave possible would be about three feet. So, that would still
give a three-foot cushion for a 3-foot draught boot in one fathom of depth -
one fathom being six feet.


Ok... I get it I think, and if it's really, really bad weather, you
could put the boat somewhere where it's more protected...

Forgive me for getting a bit technical, Jennifer, sweetheart. I know you can
handle it as you are as intelligent as you are beautiful (and that's
intelligent almost beyond belief). But, I imagine being technical might be
quite the mental challenge for the likes of Bruce et al. LOL!


Tech away! I get jargon thrown at me all the time from contractors...
I was riding with a gf of mine and she tells me she hears a noise from
under the car, so I said I know what that is.. Really??? Well, yeah,
it's the band clatter of either the drive shaft or the transmission...
now if it's the drive shaft then it's not too serious, but if it's the
transmission, well you might be able to get someone to adjust it but
it probably needs to get replaced. She was amazed and then angry when
I told her I made it all up.


Wilbur Hubbard

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