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Capt. JG wrote:
"Justin C" wrote in message ... In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: Rule 25: (e) A vessel proceeding under sail when also being propelled by machinery shall exhibit forward where it can best be seen a conical shape, apex downwards. A vessel of less than 12 meters in length is not required to exhibit this shape, but may do so. Those damn rules should be read, read, and re-read. Something new is uncovered every time. I shan't worry about not displaying my cone in future! Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. Yep... I read an abbreviated version of (e) at one point, and I almost bought a day shape. The ColRegs do require the inverted cone for all boats, but the Inland Rules exempt smaller boats. Here in New England, its very common to to go outside the ColRegs line. In fact, there are lots of moorings within a few hundred yards of the line. However, I have almost never seen the cone, with the exception larger commercial sailboats. I would guess that the majority of 12+ meter boaters have never heard of it. On the other hand, I've heard that some countries are sticklers for it - My memory is that Britain is lax but France absolutely requires it. I can imagine that this is a bit of a non-issue in SF, since many boats never go outside the line. The same is true for LIS, Chesapeake, etc. |
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:58:25 +0200, "Edgar"
wrote: No it is not. A black sphere signifies that you are at anchor. You should have said 'cone apex downward' Then there are two black spheres. Some call them Panamanian running lights. Casady |
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:09:00 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: If water is being discharged in the spot where most boats would assume is where an engine discharges water, then the logical conclusion would be that my engine is engaged. The logical conclusion is that a pump is running. Casady |
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"Jeff" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "Justin C" wrote in message ... In article lutions, Capt. JG wrote: Rule 25: (e) A vessel proceeding under sail when also being propelled by machinery shall exhibit forward where it can best be seen a conical shape, apex downwards. A vessel of less than 12 meters in length is not required to exhibit this shape, but may do so. Those damn rules should be read, read, and re-read. Something new is uncovered every time. I shan't worry about not displaying my cone in future! Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea. Yep... I read an abbreviated version of (e) at one point, and I almost bought a day shape. The ColRegs do require the inverted cone for all boats, but the Inland Rules exempt smaller boats. Here in New England, its very common to to go outside the ColRegs line. In fact, there are lots of moorings within a few hundred yards of the line. However, I have almost never seen the cone, with the exception larger commercial sailboats. I would guess that the majority of 12+ meter boaters have never heard of it. On the other hand, I've heard that some countries are sticklers for it - My memory is that Britain is lax but France absolutely requires it. I can imagine that this is a bit of a non-issue in SF, since many boats never go outside the line. The same is true for LIS, Chesapeake, etc. I rarely go past the demarcation, although we do cross under the Gate fairly regularly.. Haven't had the occasion to go into international this summer. I might get one for next season, but most of the lessons can be done inside. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Richard Casady" wrote in message
... On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:09:00 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: If water is being discharged in the spot where most boats would assume is where an engine discharges water, then the logical conclusion would be that my engine is engaged. The logical conclusion is that a pump is running. Casady Right.. but most people would associate that with the engine, especially if it's pretty constant and puffing steam from time to time. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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H the K wrote:
On 10/20/09 7:46 AM, Jeff wrote: Bill McKee wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message But what if it wasn't the engine but the genset? What if the engine was running but the transmission was broken. Or not warmed up enough to put in gear? If the sail is drawing you have to treat it as a sailboat. (And yes, I've seen a sailboat powering into the wind with the sail luffing, insisting the he has right of way over other sailboats!) Motor running power boat. Not warm enough engine? Same could be said for any motor driven boat. Oh really??? Is it that common for "motor driven boats" to deliberately leave a slip or mooring before the engine is warmed up? Actually, yes. I see it all the time. Please post this a fourth time. How can you berate others for their newsreader issues, WAFA? |
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:14:01 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote: I think that you will find that whether a sailboat, a powerboat or a row boat, the court will always find against the party who, in the event evasive action was possible, failed to take evasive action or to do everything in his/her power to avoid the accident. Problem is, that's usually both parties. --Vic |
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:21:33 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Richard Casady" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:09:00 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: If water is being discharged in the spot where most boats would assume is where an engine discharges water, then the logical conclusion would be that my engine is engaged. The logical conclusion is that a pump is running. Casady Right.. but most people would associate that with the engine, especially if it's pretty constant and puffing steam from time to time. I too would go by the steam and conclude an engine is running, true enough. Casady |
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