Parachute cord is good for this. You can rub it with paraffin (shades
of Tadpole and his tallow!) and it will slide very smoothly over
almost anything.

Charlie Morgan wrote:
So, which is it Doug?


Which is what?

DSK

"katy" wrote in message
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Wouldn't hold...ours has to run through a plastic sleeve
all the way up
the mast...keeps things from banging against each other in
there....

Does that cause resistance? That's not good, is it?
BTW, I too have internal halyards.

Scotty

No, it was the scum bag known as BB.


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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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CWM

Sorry, I must have remembered wrong. It looks like it was
Bobsprit who
wished Old Thom dead. Here's one of Thom's old posts
indicating this was
the case. He mentioned BB ion the post and that's probably
why I
remembered it wrong.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s.../msg/0f1beb993
a31fd51?dmode=source&hl=en

Wilbur Hubbard

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The wire halyards on my boat are over 25 years old and
have yet to
develop the first meat hook.

Lack of use will do that.

Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Wouldn't hold...ours has to run through a plastic sleeve

all the way up

the mast...keeps things from banging against each other in

there....

Does that cause resistance? That's not good, is it?
BTW, I too have internal halyards.

Scotty



No...there's no resistance...

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
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The wire halyards on my boat are over 25 years old and
have yet to
develop the first meat hook.

Lack of use will do that.

They get plenty of use. But they are the wire spliced to line type. The
winch end is line which I've replaced a couple of times. (If you can't
do a wire to rope splice you are no sailor.) It takes the wear. The
sheaves at the masthead are compound and large diameter. They fit the
line but have a thinner grove in the center that fits the wire. The wire
wraps around about a four-inch diameter. The sheaves are GRP and very
easy on the wire. Modern day yachts don't bother with quality and
practicality like the older yachts. Customers are generally too stupid
to know what's best. They are more interested in the stereo system and
refrigerator.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Mar 1, 4:38 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:43:53 -0500, Jeff wrote:
* Charlie Morgan wrote, On 3/1/2007 2:45 PM:
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You're the one adding all the extra steps, after Jeff told
him exactly what to do.

On many boats, you either have to cut off the splice/shackle end or
use a messenger wire from the other direction.

There can certainly be a variety of different setups. However, this
touches on an interesting question: Which is better, splicing on the
shackle, or tying it? My preference is for tying, using a stunsail
tackbend (buntline hitch) which will cinch down on the shackle and
hold it tight. The knot takes up little space, while a splice could
potentially get jammed in the sheave. Also, with a knot its easy to
"end for end" periodically.

I may consider that idea the next time I replace a halyard. Do you find the knot
gets in the way at times when trying to use a shackle key? I have a number of
halyards that are all clipped to a mast ring when not in use. That might add to
the crowding there, as well. My other question would be the relative strength of
a well done splice versus a well tied knot. I tend to think the splice would be
stronger.

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Instead of doing it half assed, get stainless cable with a swedged on
end with a toggle and halyard shackle.

Sheeeze............ leave it to a C&C owner to tie his sails on with
a knot.

Joe

"katy" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Wouldn't hold...ours has to run through a plastic sleeve

all the way up

the mast...keeps things from banging against each other in

there....

Does that cause resistance? That's not good, is it?
BTW, I too have internal halyards.

Scotty



No...there's no resistance...

You said tape wouldn't work because of the resistance of passing through
the plastic sleeve. Then you turn around and say there isn't any
resistance. Which is it. You can't have it both ways.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Mar 1, 6:07 pm, dougking...@yahoo.

I have also seen wire halyards cut thru lines inside masts,

Only fools have lines inside the mast IMO.

and saw
grooves in the exit boxes of the mast itself.

Must have been a cheap mast..was it a C&C by chance?

Wire has it's place but
there is much better stuff for running rigging these days.

Not for main and mizzen halyards IMO. Never wears out... no knots,
less windage, stronger, all around better. But you need the proper
wire winches.

Joe

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"katy" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Wouldn't hold...ours has to run through a plastic sleeve

all the way up

the mast...keeps things from banging against each other
in

there....

Does that cause resistance? That's not good, is it?
BTW, I too have internal halyards.

Scotty



No...there's no resistance...

Well then,duct tape should be sufficient. But sew it to be
sure!

Scotty