protective
not small, not too big
good temperament around kids / visitors
lab
retriever
shepherd
akita
wolve

None of these, if you get a puppy...labs and retrievers need two years to
wind down and if there is going to be a lack of attention 50% of the time,
then they're out...the other three are not for people with limited dog
experience...they are smart breeds and if left to their own devise, become
assertive and dominant and you'll have problems. Corgis, Shetland sheepdog,
some of the larger terrier breeds (not a Jack Russell, too labor intense)
would be better. They incorporate protectiveness and watchfulness with
loyalty and enough smarts to get by and be good pets. BTW, Akitas are
generally one-person dogs....and are quite a handful...any type of
domesticated wolf is a major problem...
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None of these, if you get a puppy...labs and retrievers need two years to
wind down and if there is going to be a lack of attention 50% of the time,
then they're out...the other three are not for people with limited dog
experience...they are smart breeds and if left to their own devise, become
assertive and dominant and you'll have problems. Corgis, Shetland
sheepdog,
some of the larger terrier breeds (not a Jack Russell, too labor intense)
would be better. They incorporate protectiveness and watchfulness with
loyalty and enough smarts to get by and be good pets. BTW, Akitas are
generally one-person dogs....and are quite a handful...any type of
domesticated wolf is a major problem...

How about Clumber Spaniels or Bassett Hounds? Both are fairly sedentary
breeds, no?

Some people in our subdivision have a PBGV (Petit Bassett Griffon
Vendean--spelling may be wrong) and it has to be the calmest dog I've ever
seen. Sits, comes when called, heels beautifully, and doesn't get his
hackles up when our poodle challenges it to play. Know anything about 'em?

Max

Max wrote:
How about Clumber Spaniels or Bassett Hounds?

Drool and heavy vet expenses because of allergies and skin problems but both
sweet breeds...

Both are fairly sedentary
breeds, no?

true....lumbering oafy dogs...but cute

Some people in our subdivision have a PBGV (Petit Bassett Griffon
Vendean--spelling may be wrong) and it has to be the calmest dog I've ever
seen. Sits, comes when called, heels beautifully, and doesn't get his
hackles up when our poodle challenges it to play. Know anything about 'em?

Yep...the leading breeder in Michigan lives right behind us...they have
PBGV's and afghan hounds....the PBGV's are really cute but REALLY
expensive...REALLY as in a pet quality puppy is over 1K.....
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"katysails" wrote in message

Max wrote:

Some people in our subdivision have a PBGV (Petit Bassett Griffon
Vendean--spelling may be wrong) and it has to be the calmest dog I've ever
seen. Sits, comes when called, heels beautifully, and doesn't get his
hackles up when our poodle challenges it to play. Know anything about
'em?

Yep...the leading breeder in Michigan lives right behind us...they have
PBGV's and afghan hounds....the PBGV's are really cute but REALLY
expensive...REALLY as in a pet quality puppy is over 1K.....

Ouch. I know our neighbors paid about that for this dog, and they claim it
isn't a show-quality animal. What the hell, it's really a super dog. I
love it and would love to have one, but I'd rather have a new color graphic
GPS more.

Max

apologies for not getting back to your post
swamped with work

I understand the point about labs/retrievers
also understand the need to match the breed with a "lifestyle" so to speak.
akitas seem too demanding a breed and perhaps too agressive.

which brings me to the current possiblities:
sheperd is still on the list.
shetland is one i had not thought of.
and terriers are what my daughter is leaning towards, i don't know enough
yet to say either way.

--starting to get the picture of what to think about.

still the question if i can spare the time is primary and will not pursue
anything until i can answer this
work is in a state of transition and may make the reality of this more
attainable

your knowledge and insight is appreciated
thanks

gf.






"katysails" wrote in message
...

protective
not small, not too big
good temperament around kids / visitors
lab
retriever
shepherd
akita
wolve

None of these, if you get a puppy...labs and retrievers need two years to
wind down and if there is going to be a lack of attention 50% of the time,
then they're out...the other three are not for people with limited dog
experience...they are smart breeds and if left to their own devise, become
assertive and dominant and you'll have problems. Corgis, Shetland
sheepdog,
some of the larger terrier breeds (not a Jack Russell, too labor intense)
would be better. They incorporate protectiveness and watchfulness with
loyalty and enough smarts to get by and be good pets. BTW, Akitas are
generally one-person dogs....and are quite a handful...any type of
domesticated wolf is a major problem...
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Irish Wolfhound???? :-)

That's not a Dawg... this is a DOG!

CM

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
| apologies for not getting back to your post
| swamped with work
|
| I understand the point about labs/retrievers
| also understand the need to match the breed with a "lifestyle" so to
speak.
| akitas seem too demanding a breed and perhaps too agressive.
|
| which brings me to the current possiblities:
| sheperd is still on the list.
| shetland is one i had not thought of.
| and terriers are what my daughter is leaning towards, i don't know enough
| yet to say either way.
|
| --starting to get the picture of what to think about.
|
| still the question if i can spare the time is primary and will not pursue
| anything until i can answer this
| work is in a state of transition and may make the reality of this more
| attainable
|
| your knowledge and insight is appreciated
| thanks
|
| gf.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "katysails" wrote in message
| ...
|
| protective
| not small, not too big
| good temperament around kids / visitors
| lab
| retriever
| shepherd
| akita
| wolve
|
| None of these, if you get a puppy...labs and retrievers need two years
to
| wind down and if there is going to be a lack of attention 50% of the
time,
| then they're out...the other three are not for people with limited dog
| experience...they are smart breeds and if left to their own devise,
become
| assertive and dominant and you'll have problems. Corgis, Shetland
| sheepdog,
| some of the larger terrier breeds (not a Jack Russell, too labor
intense)
| would be better. They incorporate protectiveness and watchfulness with
| loyalty and enough smarts to get by and be good pets. BTW, Akitas are
| generally one-person dogs....and are quite a handful...any type of
| domesticated wolf is a major problem...
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
|
| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

Irish Wolfhound???? :-)

That's not a Dawg... this is a DOG!

Amen. They eat about 50lbs. of dogfood per week and have an avg. life
expectancy of 6 years.

Max

Amen. They eat about 50lbs. of dogfood per week and have an avg. life
expectancy of 6 years.

Max

Not to mention the 50 lbs of dog pop....and hip dysphasia....and tons of
hair.....
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Subject: Katysails/Dogs was night sailing - too close for comfort.
From: "Maxprop"
Date: 08/16/2004 21:48 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

Irish Wolfhound???? :-)

That's not a Dawg... this is a DOG!

Amen. They eat about 50lbs. of dogfood per week and have an avg. life
expectancy of 6 years.

Max


If they're eating 50lbs/wk, they are probably one fat Wolfhound unless they are
being "worked".
Eng Mastiff = 50lbs/month and thems the biggest .... course, they're also the
biggest "couch potatoes".

Shen

"Shen44" wrote in message

Subject: Katysails/Dogs was night sailing - too close for
comfort.
From: "Maxprop"
Date: 08/16/2004 21:48 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

Irish Wolfhound???? :-)

That's not a Dawg... this is a DOG!

Amen. They eat about 50lbs. of dogfood per week and have an avg. life
expectancy of 6 years.

Max


If they're eating 50lbs/wk, they are probably one fat Wolfhound unless
they are
being "worked".
Eng Mastiff = 50lbs/month and thems the biggest .... course, they're also
the
biggest "couch potatoes".

It's like Arab horses--if you feed them what you'd normally feed a (larger)
Quarter Horse or Paint, they'll die of starvation, ribs showing and backbone
protruding.

Irish Wolfhounds take a lot of exercise to remain healthy, and they do eat
50lbs. per week.

Max