No. Also when you're trying to move around down below.
You don't want a lot of beam. You do want a lot of handholds.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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Yep, made the point.
Classy comfortable interiors are of little use at sea.


not when you are sleeping maybe, but rather nice the rest of the time.

Incredibly, amazingly wrong. Real sailors measure themselves
by the journey, not the accomodations. Sure, comfort is nice,
but doing the thing is what counts.

wrote in message
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You are quite the moron. Real sailors don't measure themselves by how
uncomfortable they are. They measure themselves by how much they are
enjoying
themselves. Maybe you are so feeble that you need an uncomfortable nights
sleep
to feel like you are facing a big challenge of some sort.

I'm starting to gather that you don't sail outside a protected bay
somewhere in
a pram.

BB

My boat sinks by
about an inch when we prepare for our 2 week summer cruises.

Scotty's boat sinks completely when his wife waddles on board!

Bhwahahahahaha!

RB

Bob, you always win. Especially when you're an idiot!

You are just 100% stupid if you think boats loaded with
creature comforts and gear perform well. You win again!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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What I did say was that a real cruiser would carefully
weigh what is important and what isn't.


100% a lie.
Ganzy said that serious cruisers opt for SPARTAN INTERIORS which is false.
Most
of todays good cruising boats are loaded with creature comforts and gear
and
perform well.

I win!!!! Bwahahahahaha!

RB

According to Booby, real sailors take a few overnight trips and a couple
of long weekends to prove their worth. YOU WIN AGAIN for being
an idiot.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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I can't imagine a "cruiser" opting for pipe berths and a stripped out
interior. Most cruising boats are designed with lots of tankage and
storage capacity for the carrying of provisions, ground tackle, tools,
spares and all the rest. It would seem to me that ignoring basic
creature comforts in a cruising boat would be pretty short sighted.

Not according to Ganzy. He thinks a "serious" sailor would just snuggle up
to
the saildrive for warmth!
Where's that list of builders, Ganzy??!!

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB

Booby, you always win at being stupid!! Congratulations!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Face it booby, you don't know anything about sailing.

I won.
I can list every blue water builder from Ted Hood to Beneteau's premium
line
and NONE are as Ganzy outlined.
All are clearly blue water sailboats. No spartan interiors.

RB

I thought at least one was a 4-day weekend. Maybe booby isn't as
experienced as I thought...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Oh but he is an expert, after all, he's taken a few 3 day weekend sails.

BWaHahahahahhahahahahaaaaaa


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
Face it booby, you don't know anything about sailing.

This is about you presenting yourself as some kind of self-styled
expert. You're not. You're a joke.

Booby, we're not talking about someone walking into a boat dealer and saying
"I'll take that one... in blue if you don't mind." I'm talking about people
who actually
go out and do some sailing. But, you sure do win on the stupid scale.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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If you go look at many, even most long-distance cruisers, you'll see
that they've widowed down their requirements to what is actually
useful.

Please educate the group. Valiant has one of the best records for boats
that
make crossings, an the interiors aren't spartan by a mile.
Please educate the whole group on a builder who sells a stripped out race
interior as a cruiser!
Go ahead!

Bwahahahaahaha! I won!

RB

Something you wouldn't understand.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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If you go look at many, even most long-distance cruisers, you'll see
that they've widowed down their requirements to what is actually
useful.

huh? WTF are you talking about?

Beneteau's premium line???

What are you talking about, I wonder?

Actually I was refering to the custom series, which is leaps and bounds above
their other boats...though they are really only semi-custom...they are very
capable blue water boats. Beneteau will work closely with a buyer on these and
heft mods can be had.

http://www.beneteauusa.com/custom/57_photos.php

Damn, Donal...I know more about Beneteau too!

RB