Nah, he already told us he provisions for 2 days before a long 3 day
passage.

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I shudder to think... I'm amazed he didn't eat the keel being away from
a decent meal for so long.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Bobsprit" wrote

You know nothing about boats
or gear because you don't own more than a daysailing toy.

Watch out Jon, he's been on 3 day sailing passages.

3 DAYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWAHaHahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

Was it enough?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Nah, he already told us he provisions for 2 days before a long 3 day
passage.

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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I shudder to think... I'm amazed he didn't eat the keel being away from
a decent meal for so long.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Bobsprit" wrote

You know nothing about boats
or gear because you don't own more than a daysailing toy.

Watch out Jon, he's been on 3 day sailing passages.

3 DAYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWAHaHahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:06:43 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Interiors are secondary to actually sailing. Most serious sailors don't
give a fig about what's below as long as it doesn't fill with water and
doesn't interfere with the performance.

Only you gay guys don't care.




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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:46:46 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

No. I'm not being silly. Most serious sailors have spartan interiors,
certainly with a purpose. The purpose being to elimnate weight.
I know a couple of people who raced from SF to Cabo with a

How would you know? You don't even own a boat.




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Although I have been "landlocked" for my sailing for the last 15
years, it is at the home of Valiant Yachts. If there is a more
seaworthy boat built, I have yet to see it. There aint nothing
spartan about those boats. If I were going to sea, balls to the wall,
I would want to be sailing a Valiant.


Poor Ganzy. He's been reduced to screaming about my short sails after failing
to make a single point. Pretty frustrating for him, obviously.

RB

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:48:26 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

You're barely a weekend cruiser. Your boat is bloated with all kinds
of crap, just like your deck is cluttered with fenders. No cruiser in
his right mind would let that happen. If you think Cruising World is
the defining magazine about cruising, you're even dummer than I
imagined.

You don't even own a boat, Jon-boy.




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ganz, get some sea time and lay off the "virtual" sea time, and then come back
here to talk.

No. Also when you're trying to move around down below.
You don't want a lot of beam. You do want a lot of handholds.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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Yep, made the point.
Classy comfortable interiors are of little use at sea.


not when you are sleeping maybe, but rather nice the rest of the time.

ganz, you believe way too much of what you read. get some sea time and back to
tell us what you learned.

Incredibly, amazingly wrong. Real sailors measure themselves
by the journey, not the accomodations. Sure, comfort is nice,
but doing the thing is what counts.

wrote in message
.. .
You are quite the moron. Real sailors don't measure themselves by how
uncomfortable they are. They measure themselves by how much they are
enjoying
themselves. Maybe you are so feeble that you need an uncomfortable nights
sleep
to feel like you are facing a big challenge of some sort.

I'm starting to gather that you don't sail outside a protected bay
somewhere in
a pram.

BB

a Dufour 27 has low ports and will bury a "window" at about 7 knots wind speed.

Yep. I find that if I can't move once I'm in the bunk, I'll sleep fine. I've
awakened a couple of times to see window under water.

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:57:47 +1300, MC scribbled
thusly:



OzOne wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:47:19 GMT,
scribbled thusly:


On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:48:59 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"

wrote:


You're the one bsing. Most creature comforts are only
good while you're in port.

Most cruisers travel from port to port except for folks like
Chichester. You
really don't know much about cruising.

BB


Dayhopping down the coast doesn't count.
Try sailing to a decent destination and see how much use you get from
your fancy interior on the way.
Two, three, or 6 days at sea will soon convince you that real sailors
have little use for traditional creature comforts.



I like my bedding to be warm and dry. Isn't that a creature comfort?

Cheers MC

Yep, but still it's difficult to sleep in a normal bunk without
additional padding.
My most comfortable sleeping has been done in a sleeping bag on a pipe
berth.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Although I have been "landlocked" for my sailing for the last 15
years,

Yup

it is at the home of Valiant Yachts. If there is a more
seaworthy boat built, I have yet to see it.

Go to any sal****er marina and you will find plenty of more seaworthy boats
than a Valiant. Valiant is a huge marketing success but it is generally
considered by knowledgeable, scientifically trained sailors to be about a knot
and half slower for its size and design than it should be. Salty looking boat,
though, and that does have market appeal.

Bob Perry would say different, but then Bob has publicly called me an asshole,
but Bob has also publicly stated that he has struggled with math all his life,
a statement on his part that I do not doubt.