You mean like your virtual sea time?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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ganz, get some sea time and lay off the "virtual" sea time, and then come
back
here to talk.

No. Also when you're trying to move around down below.
You don't want a lot of beam. You do want a lot of handholds.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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Yep, made the point.
Classy comfortable interiors are of little use at sea.


not when you are sleeping maybe, but rather nice the rest of the time.

Don't be overly concerned bob, you wouldn't be able to fit in
any size lee cloth.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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I suppose that if I had the
use the main cabin, then there would be lee cloths.


Lee clothes!!!?? No gadgets!!! According to ganzy that is!

RB

Jackass, you need to learn to read before you should type.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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ganz, you believe way too much of what you read. get some sea time and
back to
tell us what you learned.

Incredibly, amazingly wrong. Real sailors measure themselves
by the journey, not the accomodations. Sure, comfort is nice,
but doing the thing is what counts.

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You are quite the moron. Real sailors don't measure themselves by how
uncomfortable they are. They measure themselves by how much they are
enjoying
themselves. Maybe you are so feeble that you need an uncomfortable
nights
sleep
to feel like you are facing a big challenge of some sort.

I'm starting to gather that you don't sail outside a protected bay
somewhere in
a pram.

BB

How would you know? You don't have any balls...

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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If I were going to sea, balls to the wall,
I would want to be sailing a Valiant.

you might rather wish to be on an Ingrid or a Rhodes 41, or a Bermuda 40,
or a
Luders 33, or a Luders 45, or an Eric 32, or a Colin Archer anything, or a
Vanguard, or a whole host of other boats. This is *if* you are going
"balls to
the wall".

Sounds like you've got some experience with cramps. Note that
I didn't say brain cramps, because you're missing that particular
organ.

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On 20 Jan 2004 03:52:17 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Sorry, but I missed the point you're trying to make...


BB, he's not kidding either.

RB

I know! Sad, isn't it? I coukld have guessed that Ganzy and his
partner,Tweedle
Dumb Vernon would suffer brain cramps from that.

BB

I certainly don't have tits Horass.

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:48:26 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

You're barely a weekend cruiser. Your boat is bloated with all kinds
of crap, just like your deck is cluttered with fenders. No cruiser in
his right mind would let that happen. If you think Cruising World is
the defining magazine about cruising, you're even dummer than I
imagined.

You don't even own a boat, Jon-boy.




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Well YOU WIN bob... you're weekend trips are just thrilling.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Although I have been "landlocked" for my sailing for the last 15
years, it is at the home of Valiant Yachts. If there is a more
seaworthy boat built, I have yet to see it. There aint nothing
spartan about those boats. If I were going to sea, balls to the wall,
I would want to be sailing a Valiant.


Poor Ganzy. He's been reduced to screaming about my short sails after
failing
to make a single point. Pretty frustrating for him, obviously.

RB

Shhh... he's got to make a case for restarting his meds....

"felton" wrote in message
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On 20 Jan 2004 11:42:01 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Although I have been "landlocked" for my sailing for the last 15
years, it is at the home of Valiant Yachts. If there is a more
seaworthy boat built, I have yet to see it. There aint nothing
spartan about those boats. If I were going to sea, balls to the wall,
I would want to be sailing a Valiant.


Poor Ganzy. He's been reduced to screaming about my short sails after
failing
to make a single point. Pretty frustrating for him, obviously.

RB

Ganz didn't make that statement...I did.

I think you should start by removing yourself. That would
certainly cut down on the excess weight on your crapola
hunter... the pride of the bottom.

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:46:46 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

No. I'm not being silly. Most serious sailors have spartan interiors,
certainly with a purpose. The purpose being to elimnate weight.
I know a couple of people who raced from SF to Cabo with a

How would you know? You don't even own a boat.




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Horass is an authority on gayness...

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:06:43 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Interiors are secondary to actually sailing. Most serious sailors don't
give a fig about what's below as long as it doesn't fill with water and
doesn't interfere with the performance.

Only you gay guys don't care.




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