Donal,

I've said the War was an ALLIED VICTORY, always.

You Yank-baiter can't seem to find peace that the ALLIES weren't a
winning team until the Yanks were included.

That is why I've been asking for one of the baiters from this list to
find a Battle before 12/7/1941.

Let's remember this all started with my post of; Remember Pearl Harbor
and then I snide reply to Joe's story at the WW2 Monument of planting of
the American Flag on Mt. S. in Iwo Jima. I took exception to his
demeaning of Americans feeling and showing Pride for their Vets. His
remarks about flag waving and monologue were made Dec11 (Aussie time)
Dec 10 (US Time) My reply (**** off) That we went to war in Europe and
lost at lot of Americans fighting a delaying action while "WE MADE
WINNERS OUT OF LOSERS!"
Dec11 (Aussies time) Oz's reply; Was sick of my flag waving and claiming
we won the war single handed ( this was the first mention of single
handed action and made by a Baiter, not me)
Dec 11 ( I guess UK time) Donal's Reply;
You agreed it was OK to have Pride but claim I overlooked all the
contributions made by all the other Allied people. that Donal was your
assumption of something I had done that was not true (A cheap trick) I
said the American graves were there because the world couldn't take care
of itself. You took exception to this claiming it was pure conjecture
and offensive. Donal, I made that statement to you group of critics
(Critics) was how I printed it. It may have been offensive to you but it
was true. It wasn't conjecture. After the War, Europe were still a
defeated people at the mercy of the Soviet Union. They were helpless.
This were proven when Russia closed off Berlin. The Yanks had to supply
the City by air. Do you remember the "Berlin Airlift"? It was then that
Truman realized the helplessness of the people. The Truman Doctrine was
declared to restore the infrastructure of the countries of Europe, both
Allies and enemies. Out of this Doctrine came the Marshall Plan. Do you
remember these things? Money was made available, by the US Tax Payers,
for the recovery of the countries crushed by WW2. This restored the
European Economy. The infrastructure of Europe. This is the truth. It
was so successful the Russians built a Wall to stop it. Do you remember?
I don't know your age but you should know about this.

I'll get off the Soap Box now. I'm sorry if you find this offensive but
it isn't conjecture.

If the Yankee baiters don't like it SCREW THEM. I know there are people
who remember and are thankful

Remember Pearl Harbor----

AND: "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!!"

History lession over:

Ole Thom

That's one great thing about old men - they have
perspective and an appreciation of history.

Long may you live with clear memory, Ole Thom!

S.Simon


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Donal,

I've said the War was an ALLIED VICTORY, always.

You Yank-baiter can't seem to find peace that the ALLIES weren't a
winning team until the Yanks were included.

That is why I've been asking for one of the baiters from this list to
find a Battle before 12/7/1941.

Let's remember this all started with my post of; Remember Pearl Harbor
and then I snide reply to Joe's story at the WW2 Monument of planting of
the American Flag on Mt. S. in Iwo Jima. I took exception to his
demeaning of Americans feeling and showing Pride for their Vets. His
remarks about flag waving and monologue were made Dec11 (Aussie time)
Dec 10 (US Time) My reply (**** off) That we went to war in Europe and
lost at lot of Americans fighting a delaying action while "WE MADE
WINNERS OUT OF LOSERS!"
Dec11 (Aussies time) Oz's reply; Was sick of my flag waving and claiming
we won the war single handed ( this was the first mention of single
handed action and made by a Baiter, not me)
Dec 11 ( I guess UK time) Donal's Reply;
You agreed it was OK to have Pride but claim I overlooked all the
contributions made by all the other Allied people. that Donal was your
assumption of something I had done that was not true (A cheap trick) I
said the American graves were there because the world couldn't take care
of itself. You took exception to this claiming it was pure conjecture
and offensive. Donal, I made that statement to you group of critics
(Critics) was how I printed it. It may have been offensive to you but it
was true. It wasn't conjecture. After the War, Europe were still a
defeated people at the mercy of the Soviet Union. They were helpless.
This were proven when Russia closed off Berlin. The Yanks had to supply
the City by air. Do you remember the "Berlin Airlift"? It was then that
Truman realized the helplessness of the people. The Truman Doctrine was
declared to restore the infrastructure of the countries of Europe, both
Allies and enemies. Out of this Doctrine came the Marshall Plan. Do you
remember these things? Money was made available, by the US Tax Payers,
for the recovery of the countries crushed by WW2. This restored the
European Economy. The infrastructure of Europe. This is the truth. It
was so successful the Russians built a Wall to stop it. Do you remember?
I don't know your age but you should know about this.

I'll get off the Soap Box now. I'm sorry if you find this offensive but
it isn't conjecture.

If the Yankee baiters don't like it SCREW THEM. I know there are people
who remember and are thankful

Remember Pearl Harbor----

AND: "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!!"

History lession over:

Ole Thom

That's one great thing about old men - they have
perspective and an appreciation of history.


You're very old. Why don't you have any of Thom's wit or perspective?

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
That's one great thing about old men - they have
perspective and an appreciation of history.


You're very old. Why don't you have any of Thom's wit or perspective?

Sometimes you *are* incisive.




Regards


Donal
--

You're very old. Why don't you have any of Thom's wit or perspective?

Sometimes you *are* incisive.


That's what by dentist says.


RB

Thank you Simple,

I'll live as long as the Lord let's me. No longer, no less.

I do hope my memory continues to serve. I have a Thurday Lunch set up.
Called the Tom, Dick and Harry Lunch. None of our Minds & Memories are
what they were and one of us is in the early stages.
I don't think you younger people can know how frighten that can be.

Two of us are 77 and the oldest is 82

You guys can take a bow, they say my good memory is due to this Group. I
don't disagree and I thank you all

Ole Thom
P/S the spell checker called out "Tom" and gave me ThomG I only use
that on the 'NET.

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Donal,

I've said the War was an ALLIED VICTORY, always.

You Yank-baiter can't seem to find peace that the ALLIES weren't a
winning team until the Yanks were included.

That is why I've been asking for one of the baiters from this list to
find a Battle before 12/7/1941.

Let's remember this all started with my post of; Remember Pearl Harbor
and then I snide reply to Joe's story at the WW2 Monument of planting of
the American Flag on Mt. S. in Iwo Jima. I took exception to his
demeaning of Americans feeling and showing Pride for their Vets. His
remarks about flag waving and monologue were made Dec11 (Aussie time)
Dec 10 (US Time) My reply (**** off) That we went to war in Europe and
lost at lot of Americans fighting a delaying action while "WE MADE
WINNERS OUT OF LOSERS!"

I've already pointed out that I think that you are putting down the efforts
of the rest of the allies.

Now, let me quote what you just wrote:-

"WE MADE WINNERS OUT OF LOSERS!"

Do you really think that the rest of the allies were "LOSERS"?



We all feel an enormous amount of gratitude for the help that the US gave in
WWII. However, we did not expect that we would have to publicly accept
that we were "LOSERS".

It is easy to show gratitude to a friend who offers assistance in a time of
need. If the cost of such assistance, is that one must admit to being a
"LOSER", then most of us would prefer to do without the help. We would also
re-evualuate our understanding of the term "friend".

I never thought that America had insisted that the allies should eat humble
pie. However, as I read your posts, I am beginning to realise that the US
insisted that an American General had supreme authority in *every* theatre
of war.

It's odd. I always laughed at the suggestions that I was anti-American.
After all, I supported American action in Afghanistan. I supported US
policy in the Middle East. I've supported, and profited from, the American
presence in the UK and Germany.

Now, that I know that you were only proving that you were superior to the
"LOSERS" in the rest of the world, I am a bit confused.

Your attitudes are driving away any support that the US once enjoyed in the
international community.




Regards


LOSER aka Donal
--

Oh Bull**** Donal,

When a Gift is accepted the giver assumes it is needed. After accepting
the Gift that person shouldn't blame the giver because the giver
recognizes the need. To blame the giver for the need is ignorances when
it wasn't the giver fault. If you blame the giver you really are a loser

I feel that way about France, Germany. and Canada and their cry baby
attitude Now that there is $67,000,000,000 They want to forget all the
**** they screamed at the USA. Why pray tell, should we hire people that
don't like us. They deserve to be losers

Screw them, and screw their so called sensitivity, and while I'm at it
screw you and your twisted sensitivity

If yoy can't be correct I guess you have to fall back on sensitivity.
Loser do that a lot.

Ole Thom

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Oh Bull**** Donal,

When a Gift is accepted the giver assumes it is needed. After accepting
the Gift that person shouldn't blame the giver because the giver
recognizes the need. To blame the giver for the need is ignorances when
it wasn't the giver fault. If you blame the giver you really are a loser

Are you saying that you want the British to have to eat humble pie because
you came to their assistance in WWII?

The rest of the world assumes that the term "allies" implies a partnership
of friends. If this is not the case then you should tell us.

If you didn't need any help in Iraq, then why am I paying tax to fund this
folly, this personal Bush crusade?




I feel that way about France, Germany. and Canada and their cry baby
attitude Now that there is $67,000,000,000 They want to forget all the
**** they screamed at the USA. Why pray tell, should we hire people that
don't like us. They deserve to be losers

Why, pray tell, are you asking these losers to help you in Iraq?




Screw them, and screw their so called sensitivity, and while I'm at it
screw you and your twisted sensitivity

You won't be dissappointed to learn that I think that Bush *has* screwed us.
We are having to spend huge amounts on security since our government signed
up to Bush's War on Terror. When we signed up, I supported Blair. I had
faith in Bush, and I do believe that terror needs to be dealt with.

However, the war in Iraq has only served to increase the threat of terror.



If yoy can't be correct I guess you have to fall back on sensitivity.
Loser do that a lot.


... Or on silly suppositions.


Regards


Donal
--

Donal,

Sorry you had to be our Ally
Sorry you had to accept us a partners
Sorry it was distasteful for you
I'm Sorry now that we won't let Germany, France, Canada and Russia help
us rebuild Iraq. Maybe we learnt something about being Allies from you.
Please don't whine to me about Taxes for Bush when we paid Taxes to the
tune on $9,000,000,000 to save Western Europe with the Marshall Plan.
Are we suppose to eat "Humble Pie" for you? (Don't think you can ask it
both ways)
You do know that we are telling France, Germany, Russia and Canada they
can't help us in Iraq don't you.

You are again making up your own statements again.

Again I apologize for upsetting your sensitivity as an American

I also apologize that I can end this damn post.

I truly apologize to the non Master-"Baiters". I'll not (I'll try not)
to make another reply.

"I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom