"Simple Simon" wrote in message Yes, I know what you mean. I
worked at the Irwin Yacht
yard in Clearwater, FL for a year and we always hated it
when buyers came snooping around with their ignorant
suggestions and last-minute changes based on nothing but
a whim.


It was my experiance with an eight year old Irwin that led me to always want a quality
young boat. The Irwin was an incredible POS, and we would joke about what major component
might fall off next.

BTW, the construction pictures on my web site were taken only a few hours after we
made
the final commitment - they had started construction on "spec" and guessed they we (or
whoever would get it) would want the diesel. More often they have a backlog of up to
a
year.

A year-long backlog means the factory needs to hire an
efficiency expert. Something is wrong. Probably it's a
matter of too many factory personnel out in the field
doing warranty repairs because of shoddy production
practices.

No, its a small shop where a good review or boatshow can generate a few extra sales. They
would probably like to stay at 6 month backlog.

... Anytime you buy something
new you take a real beating especially the first year when
resale value vs. price paid is often 30 or 40 percent lower.
You are the typical, ignorant, gotta-have-a-new-one
consumer who drives the economy but, in doing so,
throws his hard-earned dollars away.


That's a complete myth - I could probably still get roughly 90% of my purchase price. Two
years after I bought and had put 8000 miles on the boat I was offered 105% - the backlog
was high that season. And who says my dollars were hard earned?

-jeff

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
.. And who says my dollars were hard earned?


Ya got me there, matey! Unemployment checks are no work at all. . .

S.Simon - never cashed an unemployment check in my life;
never have and never will. I earn MY keep!

S.Simon - never cashed an unemployment check in my life;
never have and never will. I earn MY keep!

Its real hard to get laid off from the Post Office!

And even easier to collect that fat pension at YOUR espense!

S.Simon - takes what he can get but still works for it.


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
S.Simon - never cashed an unemployment check in my life;
never have and never will. I earn MY keep!

Its real hard to get laid off from the Post Office!

And even easier to collect that fat pension at YOUR espense!

And live like a near-homeless person on a joke-a-boat Coronado 27? If you had
any cash, you'd find a better boat with a bit more space and confort.
Your living conditions tell the real story.

RB

Unlike you, I know what I like in a cruising sailboat.

I've spent the time and money to perfect mine while
you continue to boat-hop from one dream to the next.
The loss is yours.

S.Simon - Booby's mentor


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
And even easier to collect that fat pension at YOUR espense!

And live like a near-homeless person on a joke-a-boat Coronado 27? If you had
any cash, you'd find a better boat with a bit more space and confort.
Your living conditions tell the real story.

RB

"Simple Simon" wrote in message

| S.Simon - never cashed an unemployment check in my life;
| never have and never will. I earn MY keep!

Discussed this with a Scottish buddy of mine... he boasted he'd never been
on unemployment insurance and had never taken a check for it. I pointed out
to him that considering the taxes he paid and the fact the unemployment
deduction was taken from his paychecks all thos years... it would be
tantamount to refusing to take an insurance payment on your car that someone
else ran into and wrecked because you were to proud .... just Plain Stupid!

Try not paying a portion of the income Tax and see if your government is too
"Proud" to take you to court and seize your money/assets.

Your line of thinking is illogical.

CM

You're wrong. I never paid dime one in unemployment
insurance payments. The companies I worked for were
required by law to pay them. I know what you are gonna
say. You're gonna claim I would have earned a bigger
paycheck if the company did not have to pay unemployment
insurance premiums. I maintain that is NOT the case. The
companies would simply have pocketed the extra profit.

Besides, only fools view unemployment insurance as
something everyone who pays should collect. I've got
news for you, buddy, insurance only works when everybody
in a group pays and a few in a group collect. If everyone
collects his 'fair share' said fair share would not be enough
to pay the benefits people who really need it expect and
deserve. It was never meant to keep some lazy ******* in
beer and cigarettes. Instead of receiving 2/3rds of one's
normal paycheck one would receive more like 1/50th of it.
How some people ever got the idea that insurance
is some kind of magic bullet is hard to fathom. I guess
one can expect little more from a Canadian, at any rate.

S.Simon - actually knows how the system works.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message

| S.Simon - never cashed an unemployment check in my life;
| never have and never will. I earn MY keep!

Discussed this with a Scottish buddy of mine... he boasted he'd never been
on unemployment insurance and had never taken a check for it. I pointed out
to him that considering the taxes he paid and the fact the unemployment
deduction was taken from his paychecks all thos years... it would be
tantamount to refusing to take an insurance payment on your car that someone
else ran into and wrecked because you were to proud .... just Plain Stupid!

Try not paying a portion of the income Tax and see if your government is too
"Proud" to take you to court and seize your money/assets.

Your line of thinking is illogical.

CM

Up here we all pay into unemployment insurance.... not the company. There is
an excess of money in the EI coffers to date going into the billions of
dollars. They can't use it anywhere else due to legislation. Maximum payable
benefits are capped at $655 every 2 weeks...that averages to 8.5 K every 6
months The average is around $350 every 2 weeks.

They bitch about the Maritimes being the biggest users of insurance benefits
but won't do anything to stimulate investment or jobs. They sold off the
rights to the fishing grounds to foreign interests who have been gleefully
raping the area of all fish for the last 5 decades in return for agreements
from them to buy our wheat. We pay an average of 48% in taxes and
unemployment insurance is just enough to keep one in the poor house for 13
weeks a year after which you require 665 bankable hours of work to reapply.
The government goes out of it's way to penalize and small private
entrepreneurs and generously gives massive tax breaks to large corporations
from overseas that operate with a minimal staff based on profit over
employment opportunity basis.These same companies compete effectively to
buy-out or destroy smaller outfits and family owned businesses that have
employed many people for generations.

Last time I checked it was supposed to be a government by the people for the
people... not a government to screw the people for the benefit of those
elected. Screw them... we have a healthy Black Market here in Nova Scotia
and I'll continue to support anything that keeps my tax dollars from lining
some lying pigs wallet after serving a 3 year term and retiring on a cush
$120,000/yr pension at 55.

CM



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| You're wrong. I never paid dime one in unemployment
| insurance payments. The companies I worked for were
| required by law to pay them. I know what you are gonna
| say. You're gonna claim I would have earned a bigger
| paycheck if the company did not have to pay unemployment
| insurance premiums. I maintain that is NOT the case. The
| companies would simply have pocketed the extra profit.
|
| Besides, only fools view unemployment insurance as
| something everyone who pays should collect. I've got
| news for you, buddy, insurance only works when everybody
| in a group pays and a few in a group collect. If everyone
| collects his 'fair share' said fair share would not be enough
| to pay the benefits people who really need it expect and
| deserve. It was never meant to keep some lazy ******* in
| beer and cigarettes. Instead of receiving 2/3rds of one's
| normal paycheck one would receive more like 1/50th of it.
| How some people ever got the idea that insurance
| is some kind of magic bullet is hard to fathom. I guess
| one can expect little more from a Canadian, at any rate.
|
| S.Simon - actually knows how the system works.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
|
| | S.Simon - never cashed an unemployment check in my life;
| | never have and never will. I earn MY keep!
|
| Discussed this with a Scottish buddy of mine... he boasted he'd never
been
| on unemployment insurance and had never taken a check for it. I pointed
out
| to him that considering the taxes he paid and the fact the unemployment
| deduction was taken from his paychecks all thos years... it would be
| tantamount to refusing to take an insurance payment on your car that
someone
| else ran into and wrecked because you were to proud .... just Plain
Stupid!
|
| Try not paying a portion of the income Tax and see if your government is
too
| "Proud" to take you to court and seize your money/assets.
|
| Your line of thinking is illogical.
|
| CM
|
|
|
|

Yours is a different system entirely and it sounds more
corrupt because government runs it. Our system works
off private companies that are regulated by the government
thus there is a little better control of it.

What you have up there is closer to socialism than what
we have though with the liberals' constantly increasing the
size of this entitlement program and that giveaway program
and that social program we creep closer by the year.

People seem to always want more given to them but they
sure can grip when the govt. takes away half or more of
their money in taxes and only returns a small part of to
those from whom they grabbed it. There is a disconnect
in the liberal mentality that can't make the connection
between what the govt. takes and what small part they
can return after spending most of what they take on
supporting the bureaucracy.

Conservatism runs counter to all of this liberal crap.
Conservatism, at its core, says people should pay
their own way. Charity begins at home and families
should support those members who need supporting.
Government should primarily look after the National
Defense. That's it. Too bad it's only a pipedream
anymore. Even when a so-called conservative gets
in office they end up spending like liberals. There's
now winning.

One needs to save his dollars as best as one can,
When one accumulates enough and gets a private
pension going to collect along with what little Social
Security might remain one should take his life
savings off shore along with his boat and live
in the Bahamas, the Virgin Islands or somewhere
else where the weather is nice year 'round and
spend one's money there were sales taxes don't
exist in a lot of places.

Income taxes can be avoided completely by keeping
income below 15K per year. One can live like a king
on a sailboat in the Bahamas for less than 15K a year.

S.Simon - a man with a plan


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Up here we all pay into unemployment insurance.... not the company. There is
an excess of money in the EI coffers to date going into the billions of
dollars. They can't use it anywhere else due to legislation. Maximum payable
benefits are capped at $655 every 2 weeks...that averages to 8.5 K every 6
months The average is around $350 every 2 weeks.

They bitch about the Maritimes being the biggest users of insurance benefits
but won't do anything to stimulate investment or jobs. They sold off the
rights to the fishing grounds to foreign interests who have been gleefully
raping the area of all fish for the last 5 decades in return for agreements
from them to buy our wheat. We pay an average of 48% in taxes and
unemployment insurance is just enough to keep one in the poor house for 13
weeks a year after which you require 665 bankable hours of work to reapply.
The government goes out of it's way to penalize and small private
entrepreneurs and generously gives massive tax breaks to large corporations
from overseas that operate with a minimal staff based on profit over
employment opportunity basis.These same companies compete effectively to
buy-out or destroy smaller outfits and family owned businesses that have
employed many people for generations.

Last time I checked it was supposed to be a government by the people for the
people... not a government to screw the people for the benefit of those
elected. Screw them... we have a healthy Black Market here in Nova Scotia
and I'll continue to support anything that keeps my tax dollars from lining
some lying pigs wallet after serving a 3 year term and retiring on a cush
$120,000/yr pension at 55.

CM



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| You're wrong. I never paid dime one in unemployment
| insurance payments. The companies I worked for were
| required by law to pay them. I know what you are gonna
| say. You're gonna claim I would have earned a bigger
| paycheck if the company did not have to pay unemployment
| insurance premiums. I maintain that is NOT the case. The
| companies would simply have pocketed the extra profit.
|
| Besides, only fools view unemployment insurance as
| something everyone who pays should collect. I've got
| news for you, buddy, insurance only works when everybody
| in a group pays and a few in a group collect. If everyone
| collects his 'fair share' said fair share would not be enough
| to pay the benefits people who really need it expect and
| deserve. It was never meant to keep some lazy ******* in
| beer and cigarettes. Instead of receiving 2/3rds of one's
| normal paycheck one would receive more like 1/50th of it.
| How some people ever got the idea that insurance
| is some kind of magic bullet is hard to fathom. I guess
| one can expect little more from a Canadian, at any rate.
|
| S.Simon - actually knows how the system works.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
|
| | S.Simon - never cashed an unemployment check in my life;
| | never have and never will. I earn MY keep!
|
| Discussed this with a Scottish buddy of mine... he boasted he'd never
been
| on unemployment insurance and had never taken a check for it. I pointed
out
| to him that considering the taxes he paid and the fact the unemployment
| deduction was taken from his paychecks all thos years... it would be
| tantamount to refusing to take an insurance payment on your car that
someone
| else ran into and wrecked because you were to proud .... just Plain
Stupid!
|
| Try not paying a portion of the income Tax and see if your government is
too
| "Proud" to take you to court and seize your money/assets.
|
| Your line of thinking is illogical.
|
| CM
|
|
|
|