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Jonathan Ganz
 
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I've raced on F-24s. They're nimble, quick, and dry (except for
the beer). They are expensive, however.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Get a folding trimaran like the Corsair. Then you can use one slip.
They're still expensive. However, the tris are faster than cats and
they point higher.

There's a 28 foot Cosair near me, Say what you want, but those people have

a
blast on that thing and get everywhere 1st.

RB



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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Get a folding trimaran like the Corsair. Then you can use one slip.
They're still expensive. However, the tris are faster than cats and
they point higher. You can also haul them behind a car if you need
to...


All the folding tri's that I have seen have lousy accommodation. The centre
hull tends to be much narrower than a mono, and the outer hulls have no
accommodation at all. They seem a bit "specialist" to me.


Regards


Donal
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Jonathan Ganz
 
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Yep. That's true. They're not much for more than a weekend or so,
until you get over 35 feet. Then, they seem to have just about the
same amount of room as a mono and the outer hulls start to have
usable storage, though you do have to watch the weight in them.

"Donal" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Get a folding trimaran like the Corsair. Then you can use one slip.
They're still expensive. However, the tris are faster than cats and
they point higher. You can also haul them behind a car if you need
to...


All the folding tri's that I have seen have lousy accommodation. The

centre
hull tends to be much narrower than a mono, and the outer hulls have no
accommodation at all. They seem a bit "specialist" to me.


Regards


Donal
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More downsides:

1) It won't go to weather worth a crap

2) It's uglier than sin

3) If your built-in generator takes a crap you're out of commission

4) It'll capsize and stay capsized and it can and will sink

5) It's a pain in the butt to anchor

6) Two motors equals twice the headaches

7) It's a better motorboat than a sailboat

8) It's way way way too expensive for what you get

9) Did I say it's uglier than sin?

10) Real cruisers will laugh at you and won't want to be
anywhere near you in an anchorage. It's a case of
"Oops! there goes the neighborhood!"

S.Simon

"NH_/)_" wrote in message ...
papers on the trust are taking longer than expected.
So while we wait, I am grabbing all knowledge that I can
from this and other groups, sites and such, so when the funds
come in, we know what we want. and the cat right now is
lurking top choice.

Reasons
1 will flip ...but does not sink
2 more room
3 sails in shallow water
4 more stable on the water

Down side

1 Costs are high
the one we are looking at costs 300K
we only have 140K right now so we have to
wait for the trust to come available.

2 mooring can be more difficult--finding room


NH_/)_


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range

You still haven't bought a boat?
You probably never will.

RB





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"Simple Simon" wrote in
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More downsides:

1) It won't go to weather worth a crap


Pretty much just like all you guys.

Bertie


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NH_/\)_
 
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Simon I'm going to take at least 40K and buy a nice twin motor
powerboat. Find where your mooring and get one right beside
you, wait until your asleep and let that baby rip those twin
engines theheee

NH_/)_

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
More downsides:

1) It won't go to weather worth a crap

2) It's uglier than sin

3) If your built-in generator takes a crap you're out of commission

4) It'll capsize and stay capsized and it can and will sink

5) It's a pain in the butt to anchor

6) Two motors equals twice the headaches

7) It's a better motorboat than a sailboat

8) It's way way way too expensive for what you get

9) Did I say it's uglier than sin?

10) Real cruisers will laugh at you and won't want to be
anywhere near you in an anchorage. It's a case of
"Oops! there goes the neighborhood!"

S.Simon

"NH_/)_" wrote in message

...
papers on the trust are taking longer than expected.
So while we wait, I am grabbing all knowledge that I can
from this and other groups, sites and such, so when the funds
come in, we know what we want. and the cat right now is
lurking top choice.

Reasons
1 will flip ...but does not sink
2 more room
3 sails in shallow water
4 more stable on the water

Down side

1 Costs are high
the one we are looking at costs 300K
we only have 140K right now so we have to
wait for the trust to come available.

2 mooring can be more difficult--finding room


NH_/)_


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range

You still haven't bought a boat?
You probably never will.

RB








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And, I'll stuff fenders up your exhausts.

Harrrrhhhh!


"NH_/)_" wrote in message ...
Simon I'm going to take at least 40K and buy a nice twin motor
powerboat. Find where your mooring and get one right beside
you, wait until your asleep and let that baby rip those twin
engines theheee

NH_/)_

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
More downsides:

1) It won't go to weather worth a crap

2) It's uglier than sin

3) If your built-in generator takes a crap you're out of commission

4) It'll capsize and stay capsized and it can and will sink

5) It's a pain in the butt to anchor

6) Two motors equals twice the headaches

7) It's a better motorboat than a sailboat

8) It's way way way too expensive for what you get

9) Did I say it's uglier than sin?

10) Real cruisers will laugh at you and won't want to be
anywhere near you in an anchorage. It's a case of
"Oops! there goes the neighborhood!"

S.Simon

"NH_/)_" wrote in message

...
papers on the trust are taking longer than expected.
So while we wait, I am grabbing all knowledge that I can
from this and other groups, sites and such, so when the funds
come in, we know what we want. and the cat right now is
lurking top choice.

Reasons
1 will flip ...but does not sink
2 more room
3 sails in shallow water
4 more stable on the water

Down side

1 Costs are high
the one we are looking at costs 300K
we only have 140K right now so we have to
wait for the trust to come available.

2 mooring can be more difficult--finding room


NH_/)_


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range

You still haven't bought a boat?
You probably never will.

RB










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"NH_/\)_" wrote in
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Simon I'm going to take at least 40K and buy a nice twin motor
powerboat. Find where your mooring and get one right beside
you, wait until your asleep and let that baby rip those twin
engines theheee


Oh real machoor.


Bertie

NH_/)_

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
More downsides:

1) It won't go to weather worth a crap

2) It's uglier than sin

3) If your built-in generator takes a crap you're out of commission

4) It'll capsize and stay capsized and it can and will sink

5) It's a pain in the butt to anchor

6) Two motors equals twice the headaches

7) It's a better motorboat than a sailboat

8) It's way way way too expensive for what you get

9) Did I say it's uglier than sin?

10) Real cruisers will laugh at you and won't want to be
anywhere near you in an anchorage. It's a case of
"Oops! there goes the neighborhood!"

S.Simon

"NH_/)_" wrote in message

...
papers on the trust are taking longer than expected.
So while we wait, I am grabbing all knowledge that I can
from this and other groups, sites and such, so when the funds
come in, we know what we want. and the cat right now is
lurking top choice.

Reasons
1 will flip ...but does not sink
2 more room
3 sails in shallow water
4 more stable on the water

Down side

1 Costs are high
the one we are looking at costs 300K
we only have 140K right now so we have to
wait for the trust to come available.

2 mooring can be more difficult--finding room


NH_/)_


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range

You still haven't bought a boat?
You probably never will.

RB









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Simple Simon wrote:
More downsides:

1) It won't go to weather worth a crap


Some do, some don't. Since you always power to weather, why do you bother to comment?


2) It's uglier than sin


A matter of opinion. I think mine is very handsome, though it is a somewhat unique
design. However, I'll confess that I felt a bit out of place in Vineyard Haven, which has
a large number of traditional wooden boats and classic plastic.


3) If your built-in generator takes a crap you're out of commission


What geneator? You're talking about a boat that likely has twin deisels, each with an
alternator. Acres of space for solar panels. No need for A/C at anchor, since we (and
most) have 6 large forward facing top hatches, plus 10 other opening hatches.



4) It'll capsize and stay capsized and it can and will sink


So you say, but it hardly ever happens. Statistically, a monohull is far more likely to
sink.


5) It's a pain in the butt to anchor


Why? I have twin bows so two sets of gear are ready to go. I have an immense work area
so no one is afraid to go to the bow, even in rough weather. Its true that I do have to
rig a bridle, bu that only takes a few minutes and eliminates chaff.


6) Two motors equals twice the headaches


Yes, especially when I'm backing through a marina, and spinning the boat in place. And
its really a headache when I foul one prop on a lobsta pot and only have one engine left.

Yes, I do have twice as many oil changes, but I can live with that.


7) It's a better motorboat than a sailboat


In some cases, but its almost always a better sailboat than a monhull the same size.


8) It's way way way too expensive for what you get


I could have got a Hunter 42 for the same money. I think I got the better of the deal.
Its true that the used market is rather expensive - maybe because people are willing to
pay?


9) Did I say it's uglier than sin?


Glass houses, Neal, Glass Houses.


10) Real cruisers will laugh at you and won't want to be
anywhere near you in an anchorage. It's a case of
"Oops! there goes the neighborhood!"


Real cruisers stop by because they know my fridge is twice as large! But I'm often
anchored close to shore since a three foot draft allows me to go where most monohulls only
dream of.


S.Simon - the skipper of "half a yacht"



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"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...

Real cruisers stop by because they know my fridge is twice as large! But I'm often
anchored close to shore since a three foot draft allows me to go where most monohulls only
dream of.


How about paying more attention to going where
three-foot-draft monohulls can only dream of going
- like to weather?

He he!

S.Simon.




 
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