I agree, when the only sailing you do is within sight of the dock in sheltered
waters a multi-hull will suit just fine.

Why warp the truth? Are you sooo angry about your tired boat?
A cat like Jeff's is fantastic for his usage and would be damn good for yours
as well!

RB

You couldn't lure me to L.I.S. for a million bucks. The
stink, the pollution, the pale pasty-white New York
women. Yuck!

You challenged me to a race. I accepted and set the course.
Fine black women are for the taking in George Town. Young
white girls are for the buying in Habana. And, there's gay guys
galore in Key West just for you should you manage to finish.

It doesn't get any better than that!

You gonna race or are you gonna chicken out?

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Yes, I'll race you from George Town, Exuma, Bahamas
to Key West, FL via Habana, Cuba.

Put up or shut up.

150K. Double your pot. I make the challenge, dummy. Sail to my cruising area in
the Spring and we'll race around Long Island. I'll arrange escrow acounts. I'll
pay you 150K if you win, plus airfare home if you don't want to sail back.
Since I'm a busy man and married, this is reasonable. You have nothing else to
do and have the experience to get here. I don't have the experience to make the
trip to you yet.
My offer is reasonable and the wager is large enough to make it worthwhile.
I'll SINGLEHAND my boat for the race.

Your boat Coronado 27 with whatever sail inventory you have vs. my boat C&C 32
with her CURRENT inventory of sails.

Now...YOU put up or shut up! If you were any kind of a sailor and man you'd
come just for the hell of it!

RB

I sailed in company with a PDQ of the same size Jeff sails on
the Sea of Abaco between Green Turtle Cay and Marsh Harbour.

It was a beat and that crummy cat could not point worth a
damn. I swear I had twenty degrees to weather good on his
best efforts. I left him in my wake. He arrived at Marsh Habour
fully 15 minutes after me.

Those cruising cats simply won't go to weather.

S.Simon - the one and only.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
I agree, when the only sailing you do is within sight of the dock in sheltered
waters a multi-hull will suit just fine.

Why warp the truth? Are you sooo angry about your tired boat?
A cat like Jeff's is fantastic for his usage and would be damn good for yours
as well!

RB

I sailed in company with a PDQ of the same size Jeff sails on
the Sea of Abaco between Green Turtle Cay and Marsh Harbour.

That's a good story, Neal. But does not match what I've read. As you know, the
boat will only sail as well as the person piloting her.

RB

I left him in my wake. He arrived at Marsh Habour
fully 15 minutes after me.

And then he had a wonderful comfortable evening on his boat, while you were
stuffed into your cubby like a swollen sardine.

RB

You couldn't lure me to L.I.S. for a million bucks. The
stink, the pollution, the pale pasty-white New York
women. Yuck!

There you have it folks. I also said it would be around LI, so it's open water
to the Atlantic as well. I'll even make the whole race open Atlantic...we can
race out 100 miles or so to an agreed coordinate and race back to NY harbor.

RB

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
I left him in my wake. He arrived at Marsh Habour
fully 15 minutes after me.

And then he had a wonderful comfortable evening on his boat, while you were
stuffed into your cubby like a swollen sardine.


. . . and having to listen to and smell the exhaust from his
stupid generator. If you can't do without a generator you
should stay at home on the grid and leave us real sailors in
peace.

S.Simon

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...


I'll even make the whole race open Atlantic...we can
race out 100 miles or so to an agreed coordinate and race back to NY
harbor.

Bobby, I've got bad news for you! You can't drop anchor for lunch out in
the Atlantic. Perhaps you should think of something different?


Regards


Donal
--

That was almost undoubtedly one of Mike's charter boats from SailAbaco.
http://www.sailabaco.net/
You were probably racing someone who had never been on a cat until the day before.
Footing off was not a bad tactic for the cat, as he should have increased speed more than
enough to compensate - though 20 degrees sounds like a lot. However, you're talking about
a beat of about 25 miles in effectively a narrow channel - its takes a fair amount of work
to get the most out of cat in those conditions.

Even if your 15 minute margin was real, its not very significant. Frankly, since we've
had this performance discussion twice recently and you suddenly "remembered" this
incident, its pretty obvious that you're just making it up!

If you really want upwind performance, the PDQ 36 Express had twin daggerboards, 29% more
sail area, and weighs more than a ton less.




"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
I sailed in company with a PDQ of the same size Jeff sails on
the Sea of Abaco between Green Turtle Cay and Marsh Harbour.

It was a beat and that crummy cat could not point worth a
damn. I swear I had twenty degrees to weather good on his
best efforts. I left him in my wake. He arrived at Marsh Habour
fully 15 minutes after me.

Those cruising cats simply won't go to weather.

S.Simon - the one and only.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I agree, when the only sailing you do is within sight of the dock in sheltered
waters a multi-hull will suit just fine.

Why warp the truth? Are you sooo angry about your tired boat?
A cat like Jeff's is fantastic for his usage and would be damn good for yours
as well!

RB

You have this obsession about gensets. I don't have one, nor did the charter cat you
"raced.



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I left him in my wake. He arrived at Marsh Habour
fully 15 minutes after me.

And then he had a wonderful comfortable evening on his boat, while you were
stuffed into your cubby like a swollen sardine.


. . . and having to listen to and smell the exhaust from his
stupid generator. If you can't do without a generator you
should stay at home on the grid and leave us real sailors in
peace.

S.Simon