"NH_/\)_" wrote in message m...
Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range

http://www.sailnet.com/collections/b...ing%20a%20Boat


NH_/)_


Hey NH_/),

Did you read the last line of the link you posted?

"you should have a capsize plan and make sure that emergency supplies
will be reachable"

In other words you are stopped, upside down, and just flosum.

Never happen on a well buildt monohull.

I also like the line "you better be able to release your mainsheet in
an instant."

So True, and the real danger of a cat. If you buy a cat you better be
faster than the wind.

SO.......If you value your life stay away from cats, unless your just
a weekend warrior in the local bay or lake with someone looking out
4U.

Capt. American

Another poster with a complex yipppppeeeee

NH_/)_

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"Capt.American" wrote in message
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"NH_/\)_" wrote in message
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Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range


http://www.sailnet.com/collections/b...ing%20a%20Boat


NH_/)_


Hey NH_/),

Did you read the last line of the link you posted?

"you should have a capsize plan and make sure that emergency supplies
will be reachable"

In other words you are stopped, upside down, and just flosum.

Never happen on a well buildt monohull.

I also like the line "you better be able to release your mainsheet in
an instant."

So True, and the real danger of a cat. If you buy a cat you better be
faster than the wind.

SO.......If you value your life stay away from cats, unless your just
a weekend warrior in the local bay or lake with someone looking out
4U.

Capt. American

On the other hand, the dull roar of a diesel loafing along is a lot easier to
take than
the scream of an outboard working hard.

Keep in mind the resale...far easier and better with the diesel IB engines.
Every boat is a "stepping stone" to the next...and then you die.

RB

I agree, for once, diesel-powered yacht have higher resale value.

Lord only know why but they do. . .

S.Simon - never had and never will have a diesel - they stink!


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
On the other hand, the dull roar of a diesel loafing along is a lot easier to
take than
the scream of an outboard working hard.

Keep in mind the resale...far easier and better with the diesel IB engines.
Every boat is a "stepping stone" to the next...and then you die.

RB

Thank you for reiterating the obvious. But, trying to make
multi-hull buyers see the obvious is about as difficult as
making a pig stay away from his slop.

My only hope is they remember our words as they suffer
and waste away in an upside down multihull adrift till they
starve or die of exposure.

S.Simon


"Capt.American" wrote in message om...
"NH_/\)_" wrote in message m...
Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range

http://www.sailnet.com/collections/b...ing%20a%20Boat


NH_/)_


Hey NH_/),

Did you read the last line of the link you posted?

"you should have a capsize plan and make sure that emergency supplies
will be reachable"

In other words you are stopped, upside down, and just flosum.

Never happen on a well buildt monohull.

I also like the line "you better be able to release your mainsheet in
an instant."

So True, and the real danger of a cat. If you buy a cat you better be
faster than the wind.

SO.......If you value your life stay away from cats, unless your just
a weekend warrior in the local bay or lake with someone looking out
4U.

Capt. American

You keep claiming cruising cats capsize. They don't. Maybe its happened 5 times in the
last 50 years. I'd say its a fair guess that more Coronado's have sunk in the same
period.




"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Thank you for reiterating the obvious. But, trying to make
multi-hull buyers see the obvious is about as difficult as
making a pig stay away from his slop.

My only hope is they remember our words as they suffer
and waste away in an upside down multihull adrift till they
starve or die of exposure.

S.Simon


"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
"NH_/\)_" wrote in message
m...
Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range


http://www.sailnet.com/collections/b...&coll_cat=Choo
sing&Coll_name=Choosing%20a%20Boat


NH_/)_


Hey NH_/),

Did you read the last line of the link you posted?

"you should have a capsize plan and make sure that emergency supplies
will be reachable"

In other words you are stopped, upside down, and just flosum.

Never happen on a well buildt monohull.

I also like the line "you better be able to release your mainsheet in
an instant."

So True, and the real danger of a cat. If you buy a cat you better be
faster than the wind.

SO.......If you value your life stay away from cats, unless your just
a weekend warrior in the local bay or lake with someone looking out
4U.

Capt. American

Look at the capsize ratio charts for your average cruising cat.

What do you see? An angle of fifty or sixty degrees or less.
Bwahahahahahha!

Now, look at any ballasted monohull capsize ratio chart. What do
you see? An angle of 90 degrees and more? Yes, sir, that's the
ticket!

See what I mean?

S.Simon - a monohull sailor and safer because of it.

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message news
You keep claiming cruising cats capsize. They don't. Maybe its happened 5 times in the
last 50 years. I'd say its a fair guess that more Coronado's have sunk in the same
period.




"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Thank you for reiterating the obvious. But, trying to make
multi-hull buyers see the obvious is about as difficult as
making a pig stay away from his slop.

My only hope is they remember our words as they suffer
and waste away in an upside down multihull adrift till they
starve or die of exposure.

S.Simon


"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
"NH_/\)_" wrote in message
m...
Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range


http://www.sailnet.com/collections/b...&coll_cat=Choo
sing&Coll_name=Choosing%20a%20Boat


NH_/)_


Hey NH_/),

Did you read the last line of the link you posted?

"you should have a capsize plan and make sure that emergency supplies
will be reachable"

In other words you are stopped, upside down, and just flosum.

Never happen on a well buildt monohull.

I also like the line "you better be able to release your mainsheet in
an instant."

So True, and the real danger of a cat. If you buy a cat you better be
faster than the wind.

SO.......If you value your life stay away from cats, unless your just
a weekend warrior in the local bay or lake with someone looking out
4U.

Capt. American

Look at the capsize ratio charts for your average cruising cat.

What do you see? An angle of fifty or sixty degrees or less.
Bwahahahahahha!

Ratio and real world are two different points on the graph, Neal.
Please show us all of the cruising cat capsizes over the past 10-15 years.

RB

If my boat ever heeled more than 10 degrees I'd be calling the insurance agent. Last week
I had full sail up while close hauled in a 30 knot gust - we might have heeled 6 degrees.
Normally I would have been reefed, but this was a 2 mile zig in the middle of a 50 mile
broad reach.

You keep making the claims but the bottom line is that it doesn't happen. You can
certainly find numerous cases of racing multi flipping, and a few wiped out in harbor
during hurricane strikes (though they usually do better than monos), a number of smaller
cats (under 34 feet) have had a problem and even a few incidents during deliveries. But
there have been almost no cruising cats over 34 feet capsizing while cruising.

However, you can't say the same about monohull that roll - a startling number of them stay
capsized or sink.


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

Look at the capsize ratio charts for your average cruising cat.

What do you see? An angle of fifty or sixty degrees or less.
Bwahahahahahha!

Now, look at any ballasted monohull capsize ratio chart. What do
you see? An angle of 90 degrees and more? Yes, sir, that's the
ticket!

See what I mean?

S.Simon - a monohull sailor and safer because of it.

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
news
You keep claiming cruising cats capsize. They don't. Maybe its happened 5 times in
the
last 50 years. I'd say its a fair guess that more Coronado's have sunk in the same
period.




"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Thank you for reiterating the obvious. But, trying to make
multi-hull buyers see the obvious is about as difficult as
making a pig stay away from his slop.

My only hope is they remember our words as they suffer
and waste away in an upside down multihull adrift till they
starve or die of exposure.

S.Simon


"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
"NH_/\)_" wrote in message
m...
Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range



http://www.sailnet.com/collections/b...&coll_cat=Choo
sing&Coll_name=Choosing%20a%20Boat


NH_/)_


Hey NH_/),

Did you read the last line of the link you posted?

"you should have a capsize plan and make sure that emergency supplies
will be reachable"

In other words you are stopped, upside down, and just flosum.

Never happen on a well buildt monohull.

I also like the line "you better be able to release your mainsheet in
an instant."

So True, and the real danger of a cat. If you buy a cat you better be
faster than the wind.

SO.......If you value your life stay away from cats, unless your just
a weekend warrior in the local bay or lake with someone looking out
4U.

Capt. American

If it 'doesn't happen' it's only because folks like you are
too afraid to make an ocean crossing. You're smart (or
afraid) enough to stay in sheltered waters with your
dangerous multi-hulls.

S.Simon - sails a safe boat.


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
If my boat ever heeled more than 10 degrees I'd be calling the insurance agent. Last week
I had full sail up while close hauled in a 30 knot gust - we might have heeled 6 degrees.
Normally I would have been reefed, but this was a 2 mile zig in the middle of a 50 mile
broad reach.

You keep making the claims but the bottom line is that it doesn't happen. You can
certainly find numerous cases of racing multi flipping, and a few wiped out in harbor
during hurricane strikes (though they usually do better than monos), a number of smaller
cats (under 34 feet) have had a problem and even a few incidents during deliveries. But
there have been almost no cruising cats over 34 feet capsizing while cruising.

However, you can't say the same about monohull that roll - a startling number of them stay
capsized or sink.


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

Look at the capsize ratio charts for your average cruising cat.

What do you see? An angle of fifty or sixty degrees or less.
Bwahahahahahha!

Now, look at any ballasted monohull capsize ratio chart. What do
you see? An angle of 90 degrees and more? Yes, sir, that's the
ticket!

See what I mean?

S.Simon - a monohull sailor and safer because of it.

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
news
You keep claiming cruising cats capsize. They don't. Maybe its happened 5 times in
the
last 50 years. I'd say its a fair guess that more Coronado's have sunk in the same
period.




"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Thank you for reiterating the obvious. But, trying to make
multi-hull buyers see the obvious is about as difficult as
making a pig stay away from his slop.

My only hope is they remember our words as they suffer
and waste away in an upside down multihull adrift till they
starve or die of exposure.

S.Simon


"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
"NH_/\)_" wrote in message
m...
Cats are looking to be a nice choice in the 38-40ft range



http://www.sailnet.com/collections/b...&coll_cat=Choo
sing&Coll_name=Choosing%20a%20Boat


NH_/)_


Hey NH_/),

Did you read the last line of the link you posted?

"you should have a capsize plan and make sure that emergency supplies
will be reachable"

In other words you are stopped, upside down, and just flosum.

Never happen on a well buildt monohull.

I also like the line "you better be able to release your mainsheet in
an instant."

So True, and the real danger of a cat. If you buy a cat you better be
faster than the wind.

SO.......If you value your life stay away from cats, unless your just
a weekend warrior in the local bay or lake with someone looking out
4U.

Capt. American