"Eisboch" wrote in message
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What if you go into firefox options, go to the Content selector and
click on it. When it opens, about halfway down, you should see a select
box for default font and one for size. That seems to allow you to set
and hold font sizes. I just tried it on Firefox 2.0.0.11 and it works.

Have you tried that?

Yes, and I also tried it with the "Allow pages to choose their own
fonts, instead of my selections above" box both checked and unchecked.
The settings change the appearance of the text (font and size), but
don't widen the whole page to fill the display.

I just noticed something. I use "Yahoo" as my home page. It may have
something to do with their settings. I may be on to something ....

Eisboch

Try this if you haven't already.

In Firefox. Tools Options Content. Play around with the Font Size.
The default is 16. When you click on the down arrow you get a drop down
list of font sizes. If one the sizes on the list doesn't fit your exact
preferences you can manually type in a number that isn't on the list like
21.

I think that will accomplish what you're trying to do. As all html
coders are not created equal you will probably run into some sites that
will be too wide. Then the CRTL-plus/minus will have to be invoked if
you don't want to scroll horizontally.

This change will not affect other programs and will "stick" when you
close/reopen Firefox.




Thanks. I think I've discovered that the problem is unique to the Yahoo
homepage and how it is displayed in Firefox. Internet Explorer does not
exhibit the same problem ... the Yahoo page fills the entire screen.

If I do as you suggested, the text gets bigger, but the overall width of
the homepage display does not change, nor do the images. The page simply
elongates in length to accommodate the bigger text but does not expand
width-wise.

It has something to do with how the Yahoo homepage is formatted, because
not all websites have the same problem. I can live with it.

Here's a couple of jpg's of what I've been trying to describe.

Here's how Yahoo's homepage looks in Firefox when I first open it:

http://www.eisboch.com/screennormal.jpg

Here's how it looks after I hit the Ctrl+ twice:

http://www.eisboch.com/screenincreased.jpg

I am trying to get it to stay in the second condition.

Eisboch

Interesting. I'm sure no html coder and don't understand the different
affect that changing the font size has on Yahoo and other sites. I thought
CTRL +/- just changed font size. Obviously it does something a little
different. BTW, CTRL +/- will not have affect on images.

One thing I have read is that Firefox is written to exact W3C standards and
Internet Explorer is not. MS takes liberties with the standard in IE were
it suits their interests. Some very small minority of coders make sure
their sites work properly in IE and don't really care if they do in FF.
This may change as FF becomes more popular. For that reason there are a
couple of sites I visit everyday that I have to use IE for them to work
correctly.

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Interesting. I'm sure no html coder and don't understand the different
affect that changing the font size has on Yahoo and other sites. I
thought CTRL +/- just changed font size. Obviously it does something a
little different. BTW, CTRL +/- will not have affect on images.

One thing I have read is that Firefox is written to exact W3C standards
and Internet Explorer is not. MS takes liberties with the standard in IE
were it suits their interests. Some very small minority of coders make
sure their sites work properly in IE and don't really care if they do in
FF. This may change as FF becomes more popular. For that reason there are
a couple of sites I visit everyday that I have to use IE for them to work
correctly.


Ahhh... your comments made my rememberer work a bit. I recall that when I
first started using Firefox several years ago (early versions) often there
were websites that did not display properly and I'd shift over to IE to view
them. It had nothing to do with add-ons like Java or anything, it was
simply the way that Firefox displayed the html code. I haven't noticed it
as much (or at all) anymore and had forgotten about the early differences
between Firefox displays and IE displays of the same code. Perhaps the code
writers are paying more attention to Firefox.

I think you have probably hit upon an explanation as to why the two browsers
format Yahoo's homepage differently, and it's also likely the reason there
is nothing in "about:config" that would relate to it. Oh well, it's not a
big deal anyway. I'll just continue hitting Ctrl+.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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Interesting. I'm sure no html coder and don't understand the different
affect that changing the font size has on Yahoo and other sites. I
thought CTRL +/- just changed font size. Obviously it does something a
little different. BTW, CTRL +/- will not have affect on images.

One thing I have read is that Firefox is written to exact W3C standards
and Internet Explorer is not. MS takes liberties with the standard in IE
were it suits their interests. Some very small minority of coders make
sure their sites work properly in IE and don't really care if they do in
FF. This may change as FF becomes more popular. For that reason there are
a couple of sites I visit everyday that I have to use IE for them to work
correctly.


Ahhh... your comments made my rememberer work a bit. I recall that when I
first started using Firefox several years ago (early versions) often there
were websites that did not display properly and I'd shift over to IE to view
them. It had nothing to do with add-ons like Java or anything, it was
simply the way that Firefox displayed the html code. I haven't noticed it
as much (or at all) anymore and had forgotten about the early differences
between Firefox displays and IE displays of the same code. Perhaps the code
writers are paying more attention to Firefox.

I think you have probably hit upon an explanation as to why the two browsers
format Yahoo's homepage differently, and it's also likely the reason there
is nothing in "about:config" that would relate to it. Oh well, it's not a
big deal anyway. I'll just continue hitting Ctrl+.

Eisboch




Try the adjustment I most recently mentioned. When I mess with it, I can
change the size of the font without changing the actual font. The best
thing you can do, though, is to dump the Yahoo page. It just slows
everything down with messy code, ads, and suchlike.

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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 07:20:00 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


I have tried viewing the yahoo homepage on several machines here using
Firefox, and none of them exhibit that behavior. I think your wide
aspect display is at the root of the problem. Tha's why I suggested
looking for an updated display driver.



Good thought but I use two other laptops that are *not* wide screen and the
results are the same. Hold on ... I am going to try something.

Ok. I opened both Firefox and Internet Explorer and went to a number of
websites using both. Internet Explorer displays *all* the sites in a full
screen view. Firefox displayed some full screen and some in the narrower,
compact style that it initially displays the Yahoo homepage.

So, it must be a subtle difference in how they each interpret certain
aspects of the html code.

Eisboch

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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:20:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 07:20:00 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


I have tried viewing the yahoo homepage on several machines here using
Firefox, and none of them exhibit that behavior. I think your wide
aspect display is at the root of the problem. Tha's why I suggested
looking for an updated display driver.



Good thought but I use two other laptops that are *not* wide screen and
the
results are the same. Hold on ... I am going to try something.

Ok. I opened both Firefox and Internet Explorer and went to a number of
websites using both. Internet Explorer displays *all* the sites in a full
screen view. Firefox displayed some full screen and some in the narrower,
compact style that it initially displays the Yahoo homepage.

So, it must be a subtle difference in how they each interpret certain
aspects of the html code.

Eisboch




Is Netflix.com one of those that displays wrong like Yahoo? Many of
the more "interactive" type websites, such as the above two examples)
use "AJAX", which could be the source of the problem. If you google
"AJAX" you can probably find some info on it. It's sort of javascript
on steroids.

When was the last time you checked for updates to your firefox
installations?



I just tried Netflix.com (had never been there before). It opened fine
(filled screen) using Firefox. IE displayed it exactly the same way.

As for Firefox ... I have it set to automatically update. The last was a
few days ago to version 2.0.0.11.

I appreciate all the help and suggestions but I think we've beaten this
issue into the ground.
Someday the reason will become apparent. In the meanwhile D.Duck's theory
seems to make a lot of sense.

I'll just keep using Ctrl+

Eisboch

I just tried Netflix.com (had never been there before). It opened fine
(filled screen) using Firefox. IE displayed it exactly the same way.

As for Firefox ... I have it set to automatically update. The last was a
few days ago to version 2.0.0.11.

I appreciate all the help and suggestions but I think we've beaten this
issue into the ground.
Someday the reason will become apparent. In the meanwhile D.Duck's theory
seems to make a lot of sense.

I'll just keep using Ctrl+


One more whack at the dead horse, if you please. When I go to yahoo.com
using Firefox on my wide-screen notebook, I get the same experience as you.
However, I also use Yahoo as my home page, but I don't use the generic
yahoo.com page, I use a customized page that is accessed at my.yahoo.com.
Going to my.yahoo.com using Firefox displays my home page using all the real
estate of my wide-screen. Note that there is some sort of beta version for
my.yahoo going on, and I am *not* using the beta version, I'm using the old
version. Not sure if that makes any difference, but I thought I'd give you
a heads up. There are plenty of good reasons to customize your Yahoo home
page. You can configure it to include only the type of content you want to
see, and items such as weather and market data can be customized for your
particular location or portfolio, respectively. Yahoo provides a very easy
configuration tool for customizing your home page that is accessed from the
generic page at yahoo.com. You have to initially register with a login id
and a password, but once you set your my.yahoo page as your home page in
your browser, you never have to log in again, a cookie is saved to the HD.
I think this will not only solve your wide-screen issue, but will offer a
better home page solution in general, as well. Works for me.

RG

"RG" wrote in message
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I just tried Netflix.com (had never been there before). It opened fine
(filled screen) using Firefox. IE displayed it exactly the same way.

As for Firefox ... I have it set to automatically update. The last was a
few days ago to version 2.0.0.11.

I appreciate all the help and suggestions but I think we've beaten this
issue into the ground.
Someday the reason will become apparent. In the meanwhile D.Duck's
theory seems to make a lot of sense.

I'll just keep using Ctrl+


One more whack at the dead horse, if you please. When I go to yahoo.com
using Firefox on my wide-screen notebook, I get the same experience as
you. However, I also use Yahoo as my home page, but I don't use the
generic yahoo.com page, I use a customized page that is accessed at
my.yahoo.com. Going to my.yahoo.com using Firefox displays my home page
using all the real estate of my wide-screen. Note that there is some sort
of beta version for my.yahoo going on, and I am *not* using the beta
version, I'm using the old version. Not sure if that makes any
difference, but I thought I'd give you a heads up. There are plenty of
good reasons to customize your Yahoo home page. You can configure it to
include only the type of content you want to see, and items such as
weather and market data can be customized for your particular location or
portfolio, respectively. Yahoo provides a very easy configuration tool
for customizing your home page that is accessed from the generic page at
yahoo.com. You have to initially register with a login id and a password,
but once you set your my.yahoo page as your home page in your browser, you
never have to log in again, a cookie is saved to the HD. I think this will
not only solve your wide-screen issue, but will offer a better home page
solution in general, as well. Works for me.

RG


Great suggestion. As a matter of fact, I *do* have a old custom Yahoo page
setup that I had forgotten about. I'll give it a try when I go home and use
the wide screen laptop. (On the boat tonight).

It was interesting trying to figure out why some pages display differently
in different browsers.
Still a bit of a mystery.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"RG" wrote in message
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I just tried Netflix.com (had never been there before). It opened fine
(filled screen) using Firefox. IE displayed it exactly the same way.

As for Firefox ... I have it set to automatically update. The last was
a few days ago to version 2.0.0.11.

I appreciate all the help and suggestions but I think we've beaten this
issue into the ground.
Someday the reason will become apparent. In the meanwhile D.Duck's
theory seems to make a lot of sense.

I'll just keep using Ctrl+


One more whack at the dead horse, if you please. When I go to yahoo.com
using Firefox on my wide-screen notebook, I get the same experience as
you. However, I also use Yahoo as my home page, but I don't use the
generic yahoo.com page, I use a customized page that is accessed at
my.yahoo.com. Going to my.yahoo.com using Firefox displays my home page
using all the real estate of my wide-screen. Note that there is some
sort of beta version for my.yahoo going on, and I am *not* using the beta
version, I'm using the old version. Not sure if that makes any
difference, but I thought I'd give you a heads up. There are plenty of
good reasons to customize your Yahoo home page. You can configure it to
include only the type of content you want to see, and items such as
weather and market data can be customized for your particular location or
portfolio, respectively. Yahoo provides a very easy configuration tool
for customizing your home page that is accessed from the generic page at
yahoo.com. You have to initially register with a login id and a
password, but once you set your my.yahoo page as your home page in your
browser, you never have to log in again, a cookie is saved to the HD. I
think this will not only solve your wide-screen issue, but will offer a
better home page solution in general, as well. Works for me.

RG


Great suggestion. As a matter of fact, I *do* have a old custom Yahoo
page setup that I had forgotten about. I'll give it a try when I go home
and use the wide screen laptop. (On the boat tonight).

It was interesting trying to figure out why some pages display differently
in different browsers.
Still a bit of a mystery.

Eisboch

It's all in the eyes of the coder.