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I like Firefox. Actually, I really don't see a huge difference
using it
as compared to IE.
The only annoying issue with it is setting the text size. You can
increase or decrease it easily from the default, but you have to
do it
every time the program starts. It would be nice if it could be
set and
stay set even after closing and then restarting Firefox.

Eisboch
Are you aware of CRTL and minus key, CRTL and plus key. They
easily
change the text size up or down.

Yes, and that's what I do. It sounds stupid and lazy, but I wish
there was
a way to keep it from defaulting back to the "normal" size every
time you
open Firefox. No big deal, but it's the only complaint I have with
the
program.

Eisboch

In the address window of the browser type:

about:config

and hit your enter key. You'l be presented with a few zillion
preference settings for the browser including default font size.

I don't know which one it is off the top of my head, but most of them
can be figured out. Any settings you change will become BOLD, so they
are easy to find again if you decide you chose the wrong setting and
want to change it.


WOW! Thanks.

I need to go back and study it for a while but I suspect the solution
to my complaint is there.

Eisboch
If that doesn't work out, you can always just buy a bigger monitor! LOL


OR you can go into the OS appearance/settings and make a subtle change
or two that will resolve the problem on a permanent basis.
If Vista is the same as earlier MS OSs, 98, etc, that will not affect the
text size in browser windows.

The solution form Salty is what he was looking for.
Yeah, it does. Also you can change the size of displayed type generally in
the appearance submenus by change a percentage number. I've done it for
years.

Do I understand you to say that if, for example, you have a Word doc open
with text entered in the doc and you change the desktop Properties
Appearance Font size from Normal to Extra Large, the text in the doc will
increase in size? Not the doc font size but the physical size as it appears
on your monitor.

If yours does that, you must have a special version of XP that I've never
seen before.





Never tried it in WORD, but when I use my XP laptop and either firefox
or t'bird, my settings changes make the type size in those apps larger.
Next time I fire up the laptop, I'll check word.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:17:58 -0500, "Eisboch"
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I like Firefox. Actually, I really don't see a huge difference
using it
as compared to IE.
The only annoying issue with it is setting the text size. You
can
increase or decrease it easily from the default, but you have to
do it
every time the program starts. It would be nice if it could be
set and
stay set even after closing and then restarting Firefox.

Eisboch
Are you aware of CRTL and minus key, CRTL and plus key. They
easily
change the text size up or down.

Yes, and that's what I do. It sounds stupid and lazy, but I wish
there was
a way to keep it from defaulting back to the "normal" size every
time you
open Firefox. No big deal, but it's the only complaint I have
with the
program.

Eisboch

In the address window of the browser type:

about:config

and hit your enter key. You'l be presented with a few zillion
preference settings for the browser including default font size.

I don't know which one it is off the top of my head, but most of
them
can be figured out. Any settings you change will become BOLD, so
they
are easy to find again if you decide you chose the wrong setting
and
want to change it.


WOW! Thanks.

I need to go back and study it for a while but I suspect the
solution to my complaint is there.

Eisboch
If that doesn't work out, you can always just buy a bigger monitor!
LOL


OR you can go into the OS appearance/settings and make a subtle change
or two that will resolve the problem on a permanent basis.
If Vista is the same as earlier MS OSs, 98, etc, that will not affect
the text size in browser windows.

The solution form Salty is what he was looking for.
Yeah, it does. Also you can change the size of displayed type generally
in the appearance submenus by change a percentage number. I've done it
for years.

Do I understand you to say that if, for example, you have a Word doc open
with text entered in the doc and you change the desktop Properties
Appearance Font size from Normal to Extra Large, the text in the doc
will increase in size? Not the doc font size but the physical size as it
appears on your monitor.

If yours does that, you must have a special version of XP that I've never
seen before.





Never tried it in WORD, but when I use my XP laptop and either firefox or
t'bird, my settings changes make the type size in those apps larger.
Next time I fire up the laptop, I'll check word.

I think the places you'll find the text size change will be the desktop
itself Task Bar, Start menu, Title Bar and Tool Bars of open applications.
Places like that. It will not affect the text size within the browser
window if we're discussing browsers, Word document text size, Excel
spreadsheet text size, to name a few.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:41:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:17:58 -0500, "Eisboch"
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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I like Firefox. Actually, I really don't see a huge difference
using it
as compared to IE.
The only annoying issue with it is setting the text size. You
can
increase or decrease it easily from the default, but you have to
do it
every time the program starts. It would be nice if it could be
set and
stay set even after closing and then restarting Firefox.

Eisboch
Are you aware of CRTL and minus key, CRTL and plus key. They
easily
change the text size up or down.

Yes, and that's what I do. It sounds stupid and lazy, but I wish
there was
a way to keep it from defaulting back to the "normal" size every
time you
open Firefox. No big deal, but it's the only complaint I have
with the
program.

Eisboch

In the address window of the browser type:

about:config

and hit your enter key. You'l be presented with a few zillion
preference settings for the browser including default font size.

I don't know which one it is off the top of my head, but most of
them
can be figured out. Any settings you change will become BOLD, so
they
are easy to find again if you decide you chose the wrong setting
and
want to change it.


WOW! Thanks.

I need to go back and study it for a while but I suspect the
solution to my complaint is there.

Eisboch
If that doesn't work out, you can always just buy a bigger monitor!
LOL


OR you can go into the OS appearance/settings and make a subtle change
or two that will resolve the problem on a permanent basis.
If Vista is the same as earlier MS OSs, 98, etc, that will not affect
the text size in browser windows.

The solution form Salty is what he was looking for.
Yeah, it does. Also you can change the size of displayed type generally
in the appearance submenus by change a percentage number. I've done it
for years.
Do I understand you to say that if, for example, you have a Word doc open
with text entered in the doc and you change the desktop Properties
Appearance Font size from Normal to Extra Large, the text in the doc
will increase in size? Not the doc font size but the physical size as it
appears on your monitor.

If yours does that, you must have a special version of XP that I've never
seen before.




Never tried it in WORD, but when I use my XP laptop and either firefox or
t'bird, my settings changes make the type size in those apps larger.
Next time I fire up the laptop, I'll check word.

I think the places you'll find the text size change will be the desktop
itself Task Bar, Start menu, Title Bar and Tool Bars of open applications.
Places like that. It will not affect the text size within the browser
window if we're discussing browsers, Word document text size, Excel
spreadsheet text size, to name a few.




Nope. On XP you can go into desktop appearance and change the font and
size of all sorts of things. While the labels in there might read "X" I
found through experimentation they also applied to "Y" in some important
cases.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:41:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:17:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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I like Firefox. Actually, I really don't see a huge difference
using it
as compared to IE.
The only annoying issue with it is setting the text size. You can
increase or decrease it easily from the default, but you have to
do it
every time the program starts. It would be nice if it could be
set and
stay set even after closing and then restarting Firefox.

Eisboch
Are you aware of CRTL and minus key, CRTL and plus key. They easily
change the text size up or down.

Yes, and that's what I do. It sounds stupid and lazy, but I wish
there was
a way to keep it from defaulting back to the "normal" size every
time you
open Firefox. No big deal, but it's the only complaint I have with
the
program.

Eisboch

In the address window of the browser type:

about:config

and hit your enter key. You'l be presented with a few zillion
preference settings for the browser including default font size.

I don't know which one it is off the top of my head, but most of them
can be figured out. Any settings you change will become BOLD, so they
are easy to find again if you decide you chose the wrong setting and
want to change it.


WOW! Thanks.

I need to go back and study it for a while but I suspect the solution
to my complaint is there.

Eisboch

If that doesn't work out, you can always just buy a bigger monitor! LOL




OR you can go into the OS appearance/settings and make a subtle change
or two that will resolve the problem on a permanent basis.

Harry,
I understand you are the computer expert in the NG, and Vista might be
different, but that does not change your font size of the web page
itself in WinXP.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:41:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:17:58 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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I like Firefox. Actually, I really don't see a huge
difference using it
as compared to IE.
The only annoying issue with it is setting the text size. You
can
increase or decrease it easily from the default, but you have
to do it
every time the program starts. It would be nice if it could
be set and
stay set even after closing and then restarting Firefox.

Eisboch
Are you aware of CRTL and minus key, CRTL and plus key. They
easily
change the text size up or down.

Yes, and that's what I do. It sounds stupid and lazy, but I
wish there was
a way to keep it from defaulting back to the "normal" size every
time you
open Firefox. No big deal, but it's the only complaint I have
with the
program.

Eisboch

In the address window of the browser type:

about:config

and hit your enter key. You'l be presented with a few zillion
preference settings for the browser including default font size.

I don't know which one it is off the top of my head, but most of
them
can be figured out. Any settings you change will become BOLD, so
they
are easy to find again if you decide you chose the wrong setting
and
want to change it.


WOW! Thanks.

I need to go back and study it for a while but I suspect the
solution to my complaint is there.

Eisboch
If that doesn't work out, you can always just buy a bigger monitor!
LOL


OR you can go into the OS appearance/settings and make a subtle
change or two that will resolve the problem on a permanent basis.
If Vista is the same as earlier MS OSs, 98, etc, that will not affect
the text size in browser windows.

The solution form Salty is what he was looking for.
Yeah, it does. Also you can change the size of displayed type
generally in the appearance submenus by change a percentage number.
I've done it for years.
Do I understand you to say that if, for example, you have a Word doc
open with text entered in the doc and you change the desktop Properties
Appearance Font size from Normal to Extra Large, the text in the
doc will increase in size? Not the doc font size but the physical size
as it appears on your monitor.

If yours does that, you must have a special version of XP that I've
never seen before.




Never tried it in WORD, but when I use my XP laptop and either firefox
or t'bird, my settings changes make the type size in those apps larger.
Next time I fire up the laptop, I'll check word.

I think the places you'll find the text size change will be the desktop
itself Task Bar, Start menu, Title Bar and Tool Bars of open
applications. Places like that. It will not affect the text size within
the browser window if we're discussing browsers, Word document text size,
Excel spreadsheet text size, to name a few.


Nope. On XP you can go into desktop appearance and change the font and
size of all sorts of things. While the labels in there might read "X" I
found through experimentation they also applied to "Y" in some important
cases.

But "Y" doesn't apply to browser window html text or any of my other
examples. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

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wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:41:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:17:58 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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I like Firefox. Actually, I really don't see a huge
difference using it
as compared to IE.
The only annoying issue with it is setting the text size.
You can
increase or decrease it easily from the default, but you
have to do it
every time the program starts. It would be nice if it
could be set and
stay set even after closing and then restarting Firefox.

Eisboch
Are you aware of CRTL and minus key, CRTL and plus key.
They easily
change the text size up or down.

Yes, and that's what I do. It sounds stupid and lazy, but I
wish there was
a way to keep it from defaulting back to the "normal" size
every time you
open Firefox. No big deal, but it's the only complaint I
have with the
program.

Eisboch

In the address window of the browser type:

about:config

and hit your enter key. You'l be presented with a few zillion
preference settings for the browser including default font size.

I don't know which one it is off the top of my head, but most
of them
can be figured out. Any settings you change will become BOLD,
so they
are easy to find again if you decide you chose the wrong
setting and
want to change it.


WOW! Thanks.

I need to go back and study it for a while but I suspect the
solution to my complaint is there.

Eisboch
If that doesn't work out, you can always just buy a bigger
monitor! LOL


OR you can go into the OS appearance/settings and make a subtle
change or two that will resolve the problem on a permanent basis.
If Vista is the same as earlier MS OSs, 98, etc, that will not
affect the text size in browser windows.

The solution form Salty is what he was looking for.
Yeah, it does. Also you can change the size of displayed type
generally in the appearance submenus by change a percentage number.
I've done it for years.
Do I understand you to say that if, for example, you have a Word doc
open with text entered in the doc and you change the desktop
Properties Appearance Font size from Normal to Extra Large, the
text in the doc will increase in size? Not the doc font size but
the physical size as it appears on your monitor.

If yours does that, you must have a special version of XP that I've
never seen before.




Never tried it in WORD, but when I use my XP laptop and either
firefox or t'bird, my settings changes make the type size in those
apps larger.
Next time I fire up the laptop, I'll check word.

I think the places you'll find the text size change will be the
desktop itself Task Bar, Start menu, Title Bar and Tool Bars of open
applications. Places like that. It will not affect the text size
within the browser window if we're discussing browsers, Word document
text size, Excel spreadsheet text size, to name a few.



Nope. On XP you can go into desktop appearance and change the font and
size of all sorts of things. While the labels in there might read "X" I
found through experimentation they also applied to "Y" in some important
cases.

I understand that you are a computer guru, but on WinXP it changes the
font size of the window, icons and menu's, but does not change the font
size of the web page.

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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
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wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:41:08 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:17:58 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I like Firefox. Actually, I really don't see a huge
difference using it
as compared to IE.
The only annoying issue with it is setting the text size. You
can
increase or decrease it easily from the default, but you have
to do it
every time the program starts. It would be nice if it could
be set and
stay set even after closing and then restarting Firefox.

Eisboch
Are you aware of CRTL and minus key, CRTL and plus key. They
easily
change the text size up or down.

Yes, and that's what I do. It sounds stupid and lazy, but I
wish there was
a way to keep it from defaulting back to the "normal" size every
time you
open Firefox. No big deal, but it's the only complaint I have
with the
program.

Eisboch

In the address window of the browser type:

about:config

and hit your enter key. You'l be presented with a few zillion
preference settings for the browser including default font size.

I don't know which one it is off the top of my head, but most of
them
can be figured out. Any settings you change will become BOLD, so
they
are easy to find again if you decide you chose the wrong setting
and
want to change it.


WOW! Thanks.

I need to go back and study it for a while but I suspect the
solution to my complaint is there.

Eisboch
If that doesn't work out, you can always just buy a bigger monitor!
LOL


OR you can go into the OS appearance/settings and make a subtle
change or two that will resolve the problem on a permanent basis.
If Vista is the same as earlier MS OSs, 98, etc, that will not affect
the text size in browser windows.

The solution form Salty is what he was looking for.
Yeah, it does. Also you can change the size of displayed type
generally in the appearance submenus by change a percentage number.
I've done it for years.
Do I understand you to say that if, for example, you have a Word doc
open with text entered in the doc and you change the desktop Properties
Appearance Font size from Normal to Extra Large, the text in the
doc will increase in size? Not the doc font size but the physical size
as it appears on your monitor.

If yours does that, you must have a special version of XP that I've
never seen before.



Never tried it in WORD, but when I use my XP laptop and either firefox
or t'bird, my settings changes make the type size in those apps larger.
Next time I fire up the laptop, I'll check word.
I think the places you'll find the text size change will be the desktop
itself Task Bar, Start menu, Title Bar and Tool Bars of open
applications. Places like that. It will not affect the text size within
the browser window if we're discussing browsers, Word document text size,
Excel spreadsheet text size, to name a few.

Nope. On XP you can go into desktop appearance and change the font and
size of all sorts of things. While the labels in there might read "X" I
found through experimentation they also applied to "Y" in some important
cases.

But "Y" doesn't apply to browser window html text or any of my other
examples. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)



It is possible that Harry knows something we don't.

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I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I was a Vista beta tester, and
when it was over, I was back to XP. They invited me for the SP1 beta, and
I said no thanks.



One other "observation". I stopped using Internet Explorer and use only
Firefox for the web.
I still use Outlook Express for mail and newsgroups because frankly, I've
never experienced a problem with it, nor do I find it difficult or lacking
in features to use. I tried Thunderbird and Agent and just didn't care for
their formats.

Eisboch



Try Seamonkey. It's the best of both worlds integrated into one suite
and it's still from Mozilla.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

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I've been reading the various comments regarding Vista versus XP (while
mentally filtering some of the personal BS expressed by some) and have
reached the conclusion that I'll stick with XP for as long as I can.

I've stayed out of this, but I will say this.

My brother runs a huge IT operation and knows his stuff when it comes
to this.

His very words: "Don't buy Vista - it's going to be a diaster - stick
with XP because Vista will last only as long as it takes to build
another XP - it's going to become the ME of the MS ops line."

My wife used to have issues with her two computers until we
finally disabled Norton in them (at the advice of a computer guru). No
problems since. I had one spyware infection on my home laptop a while
back
and SpyDoctor cured it.

If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

Norton, I got rid of when it kept locking up the previous desktop computer.
I went to AVG Free and works great. Used it a couple of years now. The
laptop came with McAfee, and just did not like it. Do not remember exactly
why. After a year, I went to AVG Free on the laptop.

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I don't know which one it is off the top of my head, but most of them
can be figured out. Any settings you change will become BOLD, so they
are easy to find again if you decide you chose the wrong setting and
want to change it.


WOW! Thanks.

I need to go back and study it for a while but I suspect the solution to
my complaint is there.

Eisboch

If that doesn't work out, you can always just buy a bigger monitor! LOL




OR you can go into the OS appearance/settings and make a subtle change or
two that will resolve the problem on a permanent basis.

I've played with that. The problem is that the OS setting is perfect for
all other programs, including Internet Explorer if I happen to open it. If
I change it to increase the text size of Firefox, it also affects the
display of all other programs, making them too big. The Firefox default
text size setting is smaller than that of IE or other programs, at least
that's the case on both of my laptops. You can increase it but the new
setting is active only for the current session. When you close Firefox and
then re-open, the text size defaults back to the smaller size.

It's more of an annoyance on this HP computer due to the "widescreen"
display.

I haven't found the text size setting option yet in about:config but it
must be there somewhere.

Eisboch