Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:41:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I don't know which one it is off the top of my head, but most of them
can be figured out. Any settings you change will become BOLD, so they
are easy to find again if you decide you chose the wrong setting and
want to change it.


WOW! Thanks.

I need to go back and study it for a while but I suspect the solution to
my complaint is there.

Eisboch
If that doesn't work out, you can always just buy a bigger monitor! LOL



OR you can go into the OS appearance/settings and make a subtle change or
two that will resolve the problem on a permanent basis.

I've played with that. The problem is that the OS setting is perfect for
all other programs, including Internet Explorer if I happen to open it. If
I change it to increase the text size of Firefox, it also affects the
display of all other programs, making them too big. The Firefox default
text size setting is smaller than that of IE or other programs, at least
that's the case on both of my laptops. You can increase it but the new
setting is active only for the current session. When you close Firefox and
then re-open, the text size defaults back to the smaller size.

It's more of an annoyance on this HP computer due to the "widescreen"
display.

I haven't found the text size setting option yet in about:config but it
must be there somewhere.

Eisboch



It seems to me I had to play with that and the "percentage" setting.
I'll try to mess around with my laptop and see if I can recall what I
did. I'll have to experiment because I wiped the Win2k settings last
week to install WinXP...but I am sure the ability is still there.

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:41:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I don't know which one it is off the top of my head, but most of them
can be figured out. Any settings you change will become BOLD, so they
are easy to find again if you decide you chose the wrong setting and
want to change it.


WOW! Thanks.

I need to go back and study it for a while but I suspect the solution to
my complaint is there.

Eisboch
If that doesn't work out, you can always just buy a bigger monitor! LOL



OR you can go into the OS appearance/settings and make a subtle change or
two that will resolve the problem on a permanent basis.

I've played with that. The problem is that the OS setting is perfect for
all other programs, including Internet Explorer if I happen to open it. If
I change it to increase the text size of Firefox, it also affects the
display of all other programs, making them too big. The Firefox default
text size setting is smaller than that of IE or other programs, at least
that's the case on both of my laptops. You can increase it but the new
setting is active only for the current session. When you close Firefox and
then re-open, the text size defaults back to the smaller size.

It's more of an annoyance on this HP computer due to the "widescreen"
display.

I haven't found the text size setting option yet in about:config but it
must be there somewhere.

Eisboch




What if you go into firefox options, go to the Content selector and
click on it. When it opens, about halfway down, you should see a select
box for default font and one for size. That seems to allow you to set
and hold font sizes. I just tried it on Firefox 2.0.0.11 and it works.

Have you tried that?

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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If yours does that, you must have a special version of XP that I've
never seen before.




Never tried it in WORD, but when I use my XP laptop and either firefox
or t'bird, my settings changes make the type size in those apps larger.
Next time I fire up the laptop, I'll check word.

I think the places you'll find the text size change will be the desktop
itself Task Bar, Start menu, Title Bar and Tool Bars of open
applications. Places like that. It will not affect the text size within
the browser window if we're discussing browsers, Word document text
size, Excel spreadsheet text size, to name a few.


Nope. On XP you can go into desktop appearance and change the font and
size of all sorts of things. While the labels in there might read "X" I
found through experimentation they also applied to "Y" in some important
cases.

But "Y" doesn't apply to browser window html text or any of my other
examples. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)


I am not sure we are talking about the same thing. If you have Firefox and
click on "View", then "Text Size", then "Increase" (or just use Ctrl +) it
expands the whole Firefox display window. On this HP Laptop, I have to
increase it twice in order to fill the wide screen.

I've messed around with the Firefox settings under Tools -Options-Content,
default font, size, advanced tab, Font sizes, Font types, unchecked the
"Allow pages to chose their own font, etc. None of the changes to these
settings has the same effect as the simple "Ctrl +".

It would probably help if I knew what I was talking about. I do know that
changing the settings in XP screws up the appearance of other programs.

Not a big deal.

Eisboch

"HK" wrote in message
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What if you go into firefox options, go to the Content selector and click
on it. When it opens, about halfway down, you should see a select box for
default font and one for size. That seems to allow you to set and hold
font sizes. I just tried it on Firefox 2.0.0.11 and it works.

Have you tried that?

Yes, and I also tried it with the "Allow pages to choose their own fonts,
instead of my selections above" box both checked and unchecked. The
settings change the appearance of the text (font and size), but don't widen
the whole page to fill the display.

I just noticed something. I use "Yahoo" as my home page. It may have
something to do with their settings. I may be on to something ....

Eisboch

His very words: "Don't buy Vista - it's going to be a diaster - stick
with XP because Vista will last only as long as it takes to build
another XP - it's going to become the ME of the MS ops line."

I've said that ever since I was released from my testing NDA. It *is* a
disaster. Sure it will work for many, maybe the majority of folks, BUT...
not as well as XP. The eye candy is what sells everyone on it, and I will
admit, it's pretty cool. However, it's NOT cool enough to make up for it's
faults.

All my home computers (3) are XP, and the 6 computers at my office are as
well. It'll stay that way until they come up with something better. AAMOF,
we have another computer at my office that still runs Win98SE! It has
property management software on it that we can't get to work on anything
newer. We could upgrade the software for a cost of $40,000.00 but we decided
it'd be cheaper to continue to run 98 on that one system... duhhh g

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:36:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


I've been reading the various comments regarding Vista versus XP (while
mentally filtering some of the personal BS expressed by some) and have
reached the conclusion that I'll stick with XP for as long as I can.

I've stayed out of this, but I will say this.

My brother runs a huge IT operation and knows his stuff when it comes
to this.

His very words: "Don't buy Vista - it's going to be a diaster - stick
with XP because Vista will last only as long as it takes to build
another XP - it's going to become the ME of the MS ops line."

My wife used to have issues with her two computers until we
finally disabled Norton in them (at the advice of a computer guru). No
problems since. I had one spyware infection on my home laptop a while
back
and SpyDoctor cured it.

If I could I would cancel Norton.

The problem is I don't know what to replace it with.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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What if you go into firefox options, go to the Content selector and click
on it. When it opens, about halfway down, you should see a select box for
default font and one for size. That seems to allow you to set and hold
font sizes. I just tried it on Firefox 2.0.0.11 and it works.

Have you tried that?

Yes, and I also tried it with the "Allow pages to choose their own fonts,
instead of my selections above" box both checked and unchecked. The
settings change the appearance of the text (font and size), but don't
widen the whole page to fill the display.

I just noticed something. I use "Yahoo" as my home page. It may have
something to do with their settings. I may be on to something ....

Eisboch

Try this if you haven't already.

In Firefox. Tools Options Content. Play around with the Font Size.
The default is 16. When you click on the down arrow you get a drop down
list of font sizes. If one the sizes on the list doesn't fit your exact
preferences you can manually type in a number that isn't on the list like
21.

I think that will accomplish what you're trying to do. As all html coders
are not created equal you will probably run into some sites that will be too
wide. Then the CRTL-plus/minus will have to be invoked if you don't want to
scroll horizontally.

This change will not affect other programs and will "stick" when you
close/reopen Firefox.

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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What if you go into firefox options, go to the Content selector and
click on it. When it opens, about halfway down, you should see a select
box for default font and one for size. That seems to allow you to set
and hold font sizes. I just tried it on Firefox 2.0.0.11 and it works.

Have you tried that?

Yes, and I also tried it with the "Allow pages to choose their own fonts,
instead of my selections above" box both checked and unchecked. The
settings change the appearance of the text (font and size), but don't
widen the whole page to fill the display.

I just noticed something. I use "Yahoo" as my home page. It may have
something to do with their settings. I may be on to something ....

Eisboch

Try this if you haven't already.

In Firefox. Tools Options Content. Play around with the Font Size.
The default is 16. When you click on the down arrow you get a drop down
list of font sizes. If one the sizes on the list doesn't fit your exact
preferences you can manually type in a number that isn't on the list like
21.

I think that will accomplish what you're trying to do. As all html coders
are not created equal you will probably run into some sites that will be
too wide. Then the CRTL-plus/minus will have to be invoked if you don't
want to scroll horizontally.

This change will not affect other programs and will "stick" when you
close/reopen Firefox.




Thanks. I think I've discovered that the problem is unique to the Yahoo
homepage and how it is displayed in Firefox. Internet Explorer does not
exhibit the same problem ... the Yahoo page fills the entire screen.

If I do as you suggested, the text gets bigger, but the overall width of the
homepage display does not change, nor do the images. The page simply
elongates in length to accommodate the bigger text but does not expand
width-wise.

It has something to do with how the Yahoo homepage is formatted, because not
all websites have the same problem. I can live with it.

Here's a couple of jpg's of what I've been trying to describe.

Here's how Yahoo's homepage looks in Firefox when I first open it:

http://www.eisboch.com/screennormal.jpg

Here's how it looks after I hit the Ctrl+ twice:

http://www.eisboch.com/screenincreased.jpg

I am trying to get it to stay in the second condition.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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What if you go into firefox options, go to the Content selector and
click on it. When it opens, about halfway down, you should see a select
box for default font and one for size. That seems to allow you to set
and hold font sizes. I just tried it on Firefox 2.0.0.11 and it works.

Have you tried that?

Yes, and I also tried it with the "Allow pages to choose their own
fonts, instead of my selections above" box both checked and unchecked.
The settings change the appearance of the text (font and size), but
don't widen the whole page to fill the display.

I just noticed something. I use "Yahoo" as my home page. It may have
something to do with their settings. I may be on to something ....

Eisboch

Try this if you haven't already.

In Firefox. Tools Options Content. Play around with the Font Size.
The default is 16. When you click on the down arrow you get a drop down
list of font sizes. If one the sizes on the list doesn't fit your exact
preferences you can manually type in a number that isn't on the list like
21.

I think that will accomplish what you're trying to do. As all html
coders are not created equal you will probably run into some sites that
will be too wide. Then the CRTL-plus/minus will have to be invoked if
you don't want to scroll horizontally.

This change will not affect other programs and will "stick" when you
close/reopen Firefox.




Thanks. I think I've discovered that the problem is unique to the Yahoo
homepage and how it is displayed in Firefox. Internet Explorer does not
exhibit the same problem ... the Yahoo page fills the entire screen.

If I do as you suggested, the text gets bigger, but the overall width of
the homepage display does not change, nor do the images. The page simply
elongates in length to accommodate the bigger text but does not expand
width-wise.

It has something to do with how the Yahoo homepage is formatted, because
not all websites have the same problem. I can live with it.

Here's a couple of jpg's of what I've been trying to describe.

Here's how Yahoo's homepage looks in Firefox when I first open it:

http://www.eisboch.com/screennormal.jpg

Here's how it looks after I hit the Ctrl+ twice:

http://www.eisboch.com/screenincreased.jpg

I am trying to get it to stay in the second condition.

Eisboch

Interesting. I'm sure no html coder and don't understand the different
affect that changing the font size has on Yahoo and other sites. I thought
CTRL +/- just changed font size. Obviously it does something a little
different. BTW, CTRL +/- will not have affect on images.

One thing I have read is that Firefox is written to exact W3C standards and
Internet Explorer is not. MS takes liberties with the standard in IE were
it suits their interests. Some very small minority of coders make sure
their sites work properly in IE and don't really care if they do in FF.
This may change as FF becomes more popular. For that reason there are a
couple of sites I visit everyday that I have to use IE for them to work
correctly.

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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 03:49:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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What if you go into firefox options, go to the Content selector and
click on it. When it opens, about halfway down, you should see a
select
box for default font and one for size. That seems to allow you to set
and hold font sizes. I just tried it on Firefox 2.0.0.11 and it works.

Have you tried that?

Yes, and I also tried it with the "Allow pages to choose their own
fonts,
instead of my selections above" box both checked and unchecked. The
settings change the appearance of the text (font and size), but don't
widen the whole page to fill the display.

I just noticed something. I use "Yahoo" as my home page. It may have
something to do with their settings. I may be on to something ....

Eisboch

Try this if you haven't already.

In Firefox. Tools Options Content. Play around with the Font Size.
The default is 16. When you click on the down arrow you get a drop down
list of font sizes. If one the sizes on the list doesn't fit your exact
preferences you can manually type in a number that isn't on the list
like
21.

I think that will accomplish what you're trying to do. As all html
coders
are not created equal you will probably run into some sites that will be
too wide. Then the CRTL-plus/minus will have to be invoked if you don't
want to scroll horizontally.

This change will not affect other programs and will "stick" when you
close/reopen Firefox.




Thanks. I think I've discovered that the problem is unique to the Yahoo
homepage and how it is displayed in Firefox. Internet Explorer does not
exhibit the same problem ... the Yahoo page fills the entire screen.

If I do as you suggested, the text gets bigger, but the overall width of
the
homepage display does not change, nor do the images. The page simply
elongates in length to accommodate the bigger text but does not expand
width-wise.

It has something to do with how the Yahoo homepage is formatted, because
not
all websites have the same problem. I can live with it.

Here's a couple of jpg's of what I've been trying to describe.

Here's how Yahoo's homepage looks in Firefox when I first open it:

http://www.eisboch.com/screennormal.jpg

Here's how it looks after I hit the Ctrl+ twice:

http://www.eisboch.com/screenincreased.jpg

I am trying to get it to stay in the second condition.

Eisboch


I don't think that's a problem with font size. First thing I would do is
check
to see if there are any updated video display drivers for your computer.


I get the same result as Eisboch.

wrote:

Consumer Reports Magazine is a front for a crooked organization. Do some
research.

Meanwhile, I wouldn't trust them to wind my watch. They once did a review of car
stereos, and the top rated stereo was the factory installed unit in an AMC
Hornet!

Another time, they rated two identical VCR's with different brand names on them:
One was the top rated, and one was rated worst. When I say identical, I mean
they came off the same assembly line and the only differences were some slight
styling changes to the front bezel, and the brand name. Otherwise the exact same
unit.

I don't know if they are crooked, but they definitely get it wrong way
to many times to use them as a sole resource.