On Oct 15, 1:05 pm, wrote:
On Oct 15, 12:30 pm, wrote:

On Oct 15, 11:07 am, wrote:

On Oct 15, 10:57 am, wrote:

The trouble with your type,
is that you don't think that anything that man can do will have an
adverse affect on the environment

What a dumb statement. You don't know "my type".

How is it any dumber than you calling people you know nothing about
"socialists", "communists", "liars", etc. By the way, which one IS the
Rush/Hannity talking point of the day.

I know as much about my public officials as anyone here, I am forced
to make my decisions about public officials based on their limited
news conferences and debates.

What does knowing your public officials have to do with you calling
anyone here, in rec.boats a communist or socialist?

I am supposed to form an opinion about
them, it is my duty as an American, you, not of me, nor would you be
able to...

That's odd, once again. You're quick to jump on the "traitor"
bandwagon when someone says something negative about the Bush regime.



Here's a clue. I grew

up in the woods and fields and have a 'leave nothing but footprints"
attitude toward my outdoor play. But you just keep up the close minded
stand and you will surely be dismissed by rational people.

You've made many many statements here especially when it comes to
large corporations raping the land of finite resources, and
polluting.

Uh, no....

Uh, yes...



When was

the last time you took a walk on the beach with your wife and carried
a garbage bag... we carry one as part of our "go bag".... Do you?

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On Oct 15, 1:11 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Oct 15, 12:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote:

So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in
order
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Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the
possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the
course
of nature".

I have an acquaintance who tells me that we don't need to think about
finite
resources because god will take care of everything.

If I beleived you I would say your friend is an idiot... God takes
care of those who help themselves. Reminds me of an old story.

If you believed me? Why wouldn't you? Is it because you've never met
anyone
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No, because I beleive you will make it up as you go along to support
your own point of view...


You have a real problem with pride getting in the way of logical thinking.

You are already familiar with quite a few people whose world view was
twisted by religion. You "met" them a few years ago. Do you know who I mean?

"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:54:02 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote:

So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order
to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text -


Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the
possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course
of nature".


Then slowing down the rate of growth may be a cost effective way of
dealing
with the problem, as opposed to making Al Gore more wealthy?


It would be impossible for it NOT to help, but it's a touchy subject. Zero
population growth? Watch the reactions to that in subsequent messages.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:04:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote:

So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order
to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text -


Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the
possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course
of nature".



I have an acquaintance who tells me that we don't need to think about
finite
resources because god will take care of everything.


Yippee, let's get a good religious flame war started!

Nah....it's just one example of the various excuses people will use for
doing nothing to help the world outside their own home. There are others
besides religion.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:54:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:54:02 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote:

So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order
to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text -


Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the
possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course
of nature".


Then slowing down the rate of growth may be a cost effective way of
dealing
with the problem, as opposed to making Al Gore more wealthy?


It would be impossible for it NOT to help, but it's a touchy subject. Zero
population growth? Watch the reactions to that in subsequent messages.


The emphasis was on cost effective means of dealing with a problem, as
opposed to sending money to Al Gore.

'Zero population gowth' is your term, not mine. I'm not trying to engender
any reaction to that in any messages. But, it looks like you are.

It's a theory, and the name of an organization which, for many years, has
tried to push an agenda of not having more than 2 kids, so a couple only
replaces itself without adding population. Naturally, there are people who
think its inevitable that suggestions will become laws, and such people
refuse to think about controlling population growth.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:04:27 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:04:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote:

So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in
order
to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text -


Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the
possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course
of nature".



I have an acquaintance who tells me that we don't need to think about
finite
resources because god will take care of everything.


Yippee, let's get a good religious flame war started!

Nah....it's just one example of the various excuses people will use for
doing nothing to help the world outside their own home. There are others
besides religion.

Good. End, hopefully, of discussion.

As usual, you're focused on the wrong person. As usual, it's for the usual
reasons.

Go play in the street.

On Oct 15, 1:17 pm, wrote:
On Oct 15, 1:11 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





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On Oct 15, 12:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

groups.com...

On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote:

So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order
to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text -

Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the
possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course
of nature".

I have an acquaintance who tells me that we don't need to think about
finite
resources because god will take care of everything.

If I beleived you I would say your friend is an idiot... God takes
care of those who help themselves. Reminds me of an old story.

If you believed me? Why wouldn't you? Is it because you've never met anyone
like the person I mentioned?- Hide quoted text -

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No, because I beleive you will make it up as you go along to support
your own point of view...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What makes you believe that? You should practice what you preach.

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:19:38 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Oct 15, 10:06 am, "Don White" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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CNN had a feature on Lake Lanier this morning. Apparently water levels are
way, way down, and if there isn't some serious protracted rain soon,
a goodly portion of Georgia will be facing drought.
Meanwhile, the video showed the shorelines of the lake line with dead
shellfish and fish, left behind as the water receded.
What's the impact on boating?
Good thing Waylon doesn't boat much. Shouldn't affect him.

Is Lanier a man made lake?



Looks like it is the result of a riverbed widened into a lake, but I
don't know. Not a place where I'd care to boat. It's a reservoir, which
means it also serves as the area's freshwater supply. Nothing quite like
letting people boat, crap and dump garbage in your drinking water.

You think the Anocostia is clean? The Potomac isn't much better. Perhaps
Parker's Creek is the cleanest think in your neck of the woods.

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:03:43 -0700, jamesgangnc
wrote:

On Oct 15, 11:07 am, wrote:
On Oct 15, 10:57 am, wrote:

The trouble with your type,
is that you don't think that anything that man can do will have an
adverse affect on the environment

What a dumb statement. You don't know "my type". Here's a clue. I grew
up in the woods and fields and have a 'leave nothing but footprints"
attitude toward my outdoor play. But you just keep up the close minded
stand and you will surely be dismissed by rational people. When was
the last time you took a walk on the beach with your wife and carried
a garbage bag... we carry one as part of our "go bag".... Do you?

Many of the lakes in the southeast are man made and are used for water
supply. There are not that many natural lakes occuring in the
southeast. Most also are used for recreational purposes. All the
lakes I've boated in in NC are man made. Around Raleigh Lake Jordan
and Falls Lake are both man made. As well as Hyco, Mayo, and Wheeler
plus others. On the Roanoke, Philpot, Kerr, and Gaston are all man
made. There has been drought conditions in the southeast above
florida most of the summer and lots of the lakes are down many feet.

My neighbor, who moved up here (DC area) from Raleigh says that Falls Lake
is getting too shallow for boating. Of course, I just bought a new boat and
am planning (tentatively) to move to the Wake Forest area and use Falls
Lake.

How are the boating conditions down there now?

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:54:02 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Oct 15, 7:44?am, wrote:

So then you must agree it is OK to alter the course of nature in order
to serve the growing human population?- Hide quoted text -


Careful, that statement is getting pretty close to recognizing the
possibility that a growing human population *could* "alter the course
of nature".


Then slowing down the rate of growth may be a cost effective way of dealing
with the problem, as opposed to making Al Gore more wealthy?