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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:01:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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If you can't explain why it is such a good thing then you are just
being argumentative.
I don't have to explain it. If a survey of human beings indicates that
they like their country, who the **** are we to criticize their
economic system? Having said that, I know why you do it: You lump all
socialist countries into one big category, so you think Finland equals
the USSR. Do as you wish.
Did you forget to take your lithium today Doug?

You are the one that is getting all hot and bothered because people are
not taking your word as gospel regarding the socio-economic systems you
prefer.

I prefer this one, so I live here. You, on the other hand, think you have
information that the Finns are unaware of.

Finland is still a socialist state and all of the freedoms of a country
like and only like the US are not available to them.

Which freedoms?


The freedom to determine how most of your income is spent.
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:36:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can
see a
doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515

"Most of what we hear about the Canadian health care system is
negative; in particular, the long waiting times for medical
procedures. But we found that waiting times affect few patients, only
3.5% of Canadians vs. 0.7% of people in the U.S."

How is that not significant? If I wrote the headline, it would read:
"Five times as many Canadian patients are affected by long waiting
times compared to American patients".

The fact that the author downplays that important fact, yet hypes
another fact like "9.9% of U.S. respondents couldn't afford medicine
vs. 5.1% in Canada", shows his bias.

No matter what country you're talking about, why should it EVER be a
luxury item? I know the usual drivel: It's not mentioned in the
Constitution, but that's not a good enough reason.

Health insurance ought to be made more affordable. Period. Start with
the insurers. Repeal that damn McCarron-Ferguson Act, and put
insurance under Federal regulation. Allow small businesses to band
together across state lines and purchase insurance through their
national associations.

I wouldn't be opposed to paying higher taxes to cover medical insurance
if I didn't have to spend what I currently spend on health
insurance...*AND* I could get coverage at least as good as what I
currently have.

It costs my family $1200/month for insurance. Add that to the
$800/month I spend for my employees, and that's $24000/year that I
spend on health insurance. They could raise my tax rate 5 percentage
points and it would still be cheaper than what I'm paying now.

Oooh....government regulation. You're a liberal!

And you're a conservative:

"I agree. If I need an x-ray and money's tight, I can put it on a credit
card. And, there's never a problem with $60 office visits to the
internist. Meanwhile, I'm paying $300 a month for Blue Choice, for
medical needs which may never happen. I'd love to have a policy that
covered everything over X amount - $2K a year, or some such thing.
"

You just described Bush's medical savings account plan.

"On August 21, 1996, President Clinton signed into law the
Kassebaum-Kennedy bill that allows Americans to open a Medical Savings
Account (MSA)."

Unless you're finicky about the numbers, it seems to be a different
president's plan.

Bush's *Health* Savings Accounts. HSA's. Sorry.

" Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) were created by the Medicare bill signed by
President Bush on December 8, 2003 and are designed to help individuals save
for future qualified medical and retiree health expenses on a tax-free
basis. "

http://www.treasury.gov/offices/public-affairs/hsa/

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Bert Robbins wrote:
Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than
anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries?


It's not.

Can you point to *ANY* statistic or metric on health in
which the U.S. is the top nation? Much less any bundle of
such statistics (other than obesity & smoking)?

I know of only one: the U.S. has more jingoistic (look it
up) boneheads who trumpet how the U.S. is the BEST BEST BEST
per capita of any developed country.

DSK

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"thunder" wrote in message
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As we were comparing Canadian and US systems, I'd
be willing to bet, if a survey were done, that Canadians are happier with
their health care system, than we are with ours.

Not *my* patients. Unless, of course, they happen to be Canadian. Why do
they spend thousands down here with me if they can get if for free up there?

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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:23:49 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
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Um....I don't have a problem.

Especially with Mustangs. :)

Braggart!
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:01:26 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


How many unskilled persons have been allowed to immigrate into Canada
within the last 25 years? Remember, I said unskilled persons have been
allowed to immigrate into Canada? Allowing wealth people from Asia and
Europe doesn't count.

Don't know, but it is estimated that 1/4 of Ontario's construction
industry are illegals.

http://are.berkeley.edu/APMP/pubs/ag...ada111503.html

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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:36:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can
see a
doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515

"Most of what we hear about the Canadian health care system is
negative; in particular, the long waiting times for medical
procedures. But we found that waiting times affect few patients, only
3.5% of Canadians vs. 0.7% of people in the U.S."

How is that not significant? If I wrote the headline, it would read:
"Five times as many Canadian patients are affected by long waiting
times compared to American patients".

The fact that the author downplays that important fact, yet hypes
another fact like "9.9% of U.S. respondents couldn't afford medicine
vs. 5.1% in Canada", shows his bias.

No matter what country you're talking about, why should it EVER be a
luxury item? I know the usual drivel: It's not mentioned in the
Constitution, but that's not a good enough reason.

Health insurance ought to be made more affordable. Period. Start with
the insurers. Repeal that damn McCarron-Ferguson Act, and put
insurance under Federal regulation. Allow small businesses to band
together across state lines and purchase insurance through their
national associations.

I wouldn't be opposed to paying higher taxes to cover medical insurance
if I didn't have to spend what I currently spend on health
insurance...*AND* I could get coverage at least as good as what I
currently have.

It costs my family $1200/month for insurance. Add that to the
$800/month I spend for my employees, and that's $24000/year that I
spend on health insurance. They could raise my tax rate 5 percentage
points and it would still be cheaper than what I'm paying now.




Wow! You are getting off cheap. We spend $3,000/year just on a health
care spending account, with another $150/month in insurance premiums.

We normally go through our spending account by June due to the number of
prescription drugs my family needs, even at generic pricing.

So if you spend $3000 through June, and I assume you spend another $3000
through December, and add that to the $150/mo times 12 months, that
equals $7800/year.

How am I getting off cheap by spending $14,400/year for my family? And
$24,000/year for my family and my employees combined?




I missed a decimal point. Sorry.

Once we exhaust our spending account the remainder of the expenses (less
premium) are paid by Aetna.

You are certainly correct as your costs are quite high. ;-)

The nimrod that helped create Florida's insurance problems when he served as
Insurance Commissioner for 6 years, is now our US senator. And he opposes
the Small Business Health Fairness Act which would allow small businesses to
band together across state lines to buy insurance through their national
association at discounted rates. Ask the average voter on the street if
he/she knows anything about this, and they'll look at you like a deer caught
in the headlines. Most Americans are too stupid to be allowed to vote.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:13:43 GMT, Jack Goff wrote:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:35:58 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:39:01 GMT, Jack Goff wrote:

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:20:24 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 2 Aug 2006 06:11:49 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Slow steady wins the race.

I don't think John Force would buy into that.

John Force is an idiot.

And drag racing sucks - unless it's on the street and it's a Mustang
or some crappy rice burner.

That's when the 'Vette teaches 'em a lesson. :)

You got a C6R? Anthing less and the new Mustang Cobra will show the
'vette the door! :-)

Highly unlikely. 645 hp before the NOX. :)

Ahhh... traction is your problem.

Um....I don't have a problem.

Especially with Mustangs. :)



So let's see a picture of that monster!

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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:33:31 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 3 Aug 2006 06:16:27 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 3 Aug 2006 04:32:37 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 2 Aug 2006 12:51:29 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 2 Aug 2006 06:11:49 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Slow steady wins the race.

I don't think John Force would buy into that.

John Force is an idiot.

And drag racing sucks - unless it's on the street and it's a Mustang
or some crappy rice burner.

That's when the 'Vette teaches 'em a lesson. :)

John Force is a self made multi millionaire. He started with nothing,
made a fortune. Drag racing is one of the most technologically advanced
forms of piston engine racing there is.

Right.

Ever hear of F1 racing?

Yes, why? Drag racing is still one of the most technologically advanced
forms of piston engine racing there is. At 6000+ horsepower, an F1
engine is a horsepower midget in comparison at around 750 hp.

John Force probably started with much less than you, and built a
multi million dollar conglomerate. Have you?

Yep.

Yeah, sure......

Stick to things you know about Bassy...

Just what is it in this previous post that you are eluding to that I
don't know? Be specific.

Specific? Sure.

You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement
endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in
fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never
realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements
in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that
he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who
actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on
both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off
watching the one man clown show that is you.

Specific enough?

I sure hope that sentence wasn't copyrighted, 'cause I've already sent it
to a brother who will undoubtedly use it in some internal Weyerhauser
fight.

Thanks!
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"DSK" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:
Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than
anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries?


It's not.

Can you point to *ANY* statistic or metric on health in which the U.S. is
the top nation? Much less any bundle of such statistics (other than
obesity & smoking)?

We have the highest rate of breast cancer survival, and the best cervical
cancer screneing system in the world.

And remember that WHO report that ranked the US 37th out of 191 countries
surveyed? It was too heavily weighted towards favoring countries with
univeral coverage.

But here's where they ranked America's health system *first* in several
categories:

1) first in responsiveness to patients' needs for "choice of provider"

2) first in "dignity"

3) first in "autonomy"

4) first in "timely care"

5) first in "confidentiality"


Does that satisfy your request for "any" metric on health in which the U.S.
is the top nation?