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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Jack Goff" wrote in message
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While the separate arguments he makes looks pretty good on their
face,
when you put them together it seems a bit like leaving the hen
house
unlocked, and handing the keys to the fox. Basically, let the bad
oil
companies alone set the price for the raw material they need, as
they
see fit? How's that gonna work?

What are you talking about??? The henhouse is *already* unlocked!
The presence of non-industry gamblers in the hedging process is the
largest part of the problem. Are you saying they *belong* in the
futures market because they somehow keep the oil companies
honest???
The world according to Doug Kanter, aka JoeSpareBedroom, sure must
be a rigid one. If I have money to invest or speculate on
commodities or futures why should I be limited to specific vehicles?

Your world doesn't sound like a place most of us Americans want to
live in.

It's already that kind of world. Walk into a brokerage firm and tell
them you want to play with uncovered call options. There's a 50/50
chance that they'll walk you to the door because the regulations are
designed to prevent people from jumping off bridges.
However, if I have enough of a net worth I can play with uncovered
call options.

Anyway...back to the oil subject: Oil is a product too important to be
fiddled with by monkeys. Would you agree that when the price increases
by 50%, it affects parts of the economy in negative ways?
Develop another source of usable energy that is more cost effective than
oil is and you could be rich. Otherwise, shut up and pay before you
pump.


Irrelevant. Would you agree that when the price increases by 50%, it
affects parts of the economy in negative ways?

Why is it irrelevant? Is it that you don't want to discuss alternatives
because it will spoil you current activity of slamming the Bush
Administration?

How many people have been laid off due to the increase in oil costs? How
many people have gone bankrupt due to the increase in oil costs?

The more interesting piece of economic news of late is the potential
increase in the forclosure rate due to the variable interest rate
mortgages rising considerably over the next two years. The general, pre
oil price rise, trend over the last two years that is predicted by the
FRBS is more troubling. Shouldn't the FRBS be lowering the rate to keep
the current variable rate mortgage payers in paying rather than being
forclosed on?

He says sitting on a 5.75% 30 year fixed interest rate mortgage.

You're drinking again. What's Bush got to do with the futures market, which
has been around since before he was scraped out of his petri dish?

You're right about oil though. Its cost is only important to the cars we
drive, and anything that needs to be shipped. That's not much. Every now and
then, I push a button and see a graph of the per mile trucking costs my
company and ALL others have paid over the years. It's a steep curve over the
last 40 months or so. But, it must be wrong, even though the figures come
directly from our invoices. Maybe I need my glasses checked.

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
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Toronto is indeed a nice place to visit and we may do so again next year
on our trip next year to Baltimore, New York City, Boston and Freeport,
Maine.


If you come to Boston, stay out of the tunnels.

Eisboch

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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And, percentage of your income do you gladly give to your national and
provincial governments every year?

0%
Harry should scold you for not willingly giving of your hard labor to your
fellow man.

Whooosh!



You are the one that missed it Dougie!

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Jack Goff" wrote in message
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While the separate arguments he makes looks pretty good on their
face,
when you put them together it seems a bit like leaving the hen
house
unlocked, and handing the keys to the fox. Basically, let the bad
oil
companies alone set the price for the raw material they need, as
they
see fit? How's that gonna work?

What are you talking about??? The henhouse is *already* unlocked!
The presence of non-industry gamblers in the hedging process is the
largest part of the problem. Are you saying they *belong* in the
futures market because they somehow keep the oil companies
honest???
The world according to Doug Kanter, aka JoeSpareBedroom, sure must
be a rigid one. If I have money to invest or speculate on
commodities or futures why should I be limited to specific vehicles?

Your world doesn't sound like a place most of us Americans want to
live in.

It's already that kind of world. Walk into a brokerage firm and tell
them you want to play with uncovered call options. There's a 50/50
chance that they'll walk you to the door because the regulations are
designed to prevent people from jumping off bridges.
However, if I have enough of a net worth I can play with uncovered
call options.

Anyway...back to the oil subject: Oil is a product too important to be
fiddled with by monkeys. Would you agree that when the price increases
by 50%, it affects parts of the economy in negative ways?
Develop another source of usable energy that is more cost effective than
oil is and you could be rich. Otherwise, shut up and pay before you
pump.

Irrelevant. Would you agree that when the price increases by 50%, it
affects parts of the economy in negative ways?
Why is it irrelevant? Is it that you don't want to discuss alternatives
because it will spoil you current activity of slamming the Bush
Administration?

How many people have been laid off due to the increase in oil costs? How
many people have gone bankrupt due to the increase in oil costs?

The more interesting piece of economic news of late is the potential
increase in the forclosure rate due to the variable interest rate
mortgages rising considerably over the next two years. The general, pre
oil price rise, trend over the last two years that is predicted by the
FRBS is more troubling. Shouldn't the FRBS be lowering the rate to keep
the current variable rate mortgage payers in paying rather than being
forclosed on?

He says sitting on a 5.75% 30 year fixed interest rate mortgage.

You're drinking again. What's Bush got to do with the futures market, which
has been around since before he was scraped out of his petri dish?

Who said anything about Bush? FRBS = Federal Reserve Banking System. You
know they guys that are independent of the three branches of government
and who set monitary policy in the US.

You're right about oil though. Its cost is only important to the cars we
drive, and anything that needs to be shipped. That's not much. Every now and
then, I push a button and see a graph of the per mile trucking costs my
company and ALL others have paid over the years. It's a steep curve over the
last 40 months or so. But, it must be wrong, even though the figures come
directly from our invoices. Maybe I need my glasses checked.

What have you stopped doing due to the increase in oil? Have you stopped
eating? Have you lost your house? Have you given up driving your car or
boat? Have you reduced the number of movies you go to? Have you stoped
funding your 401k or your IRA? How has the increase in oil price
materially affected you?

Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
 

JimH wrote:
DSK wrote:
You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement
endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in
fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never
realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements
in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that
he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who
actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on
both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off
watching the one man clown show that is you.

Specific enough?


LOL! That has to be the longest, but most accurate, sentence I have ever
read. ;-)


It's laser sighted-accurate... applies to several people
too... a veritable MIRV of a sentence...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Without taking sides in this part of the discussion, I have to say it was a
nicely crafted sentence. Hints of cherry & apricot, with a finish of almond.
It should age well.


Indeed.
I'm tempted to file off the serial numbers and take it home
with me, for future use on asuitable occasions!

DSK



Perhaps we should nominate it for the rec.boats longest, most accurate
and most elegant sentence awards so it will live in infamy. :-)

Hey, Sheriff Jim, what happened to you lambasting everyone for posting
and replying off topic? Now that it's your time of the month, you're
going to do just as you've shunned others for doing (as usual)?

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..


Toronto is indeed a nice place to visit and we may do so again next year
on our trip next year to Baltimore, New York City, Boston and Freeport,
Maine.


If you come to Boston, stay out of the tunnels.

Eisboch


Been there...........done that...........will never do again.

But thanks anyway. ;-)

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Amen!


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 3 Aug 2006 06:16:27 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 3 Aug 2006 04:32:37 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 2 Aug 2006 12:51:29 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 2 Aug 2006 06:11:49 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Slow steady wins the race.

I don't think John Force would buy into that.

John Force is an idiot.

And drag racing sucks - unless it's on the street and it's a Mustang
or some crappy rice burner.

That's when the 'Vette teaches 'em a lesson. :)

John Force is a self made multi millionaire. He started with nothing,
made a fortune. Drag racing is one of the most technologically advanced
forms of piston engine racing there is.

Right.

Ever hear of F1 racing?

Yes, why? Drag racing is still one of the most technologically advanced
forms of piston engine racing there is. At 6000+ horsepower, an F1
engine is a horsepower midget in comparison at around 750 hp.

John Force probably started with much less than you, and built a
multi million dollar conglomerate. Have you?

Yep.

Yeah, sure......

Stick to things you know about Bassy...

Just what is it in this previous post that you are eluding to that I
don't know? Be specific.

Specific? Sure.

You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement
endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in
fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never
realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements
in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that
he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who
actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on
both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off
watching the one man clown show that is you.

Specific enough?

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NOYB wrote:
We have the highest rate of breast cancer survival, and the best cervical
cancer screneing system in the world.


That's good. Thanks for pointing that out.

And remember that WHO report that ranked the US 37th out of 191 countries
surveyed? It was too heavily weighted towards favoring countries with
univeral coverage.


Yeah yeah, whine about libby-rull bias.
Better wait for the boys in the chorus to chime in.

But here's where they ranked America's health system *first* in several
categories:

1) first in responsiveness to patients' needs for "choice of provider"

2) first in "dignity"

3) first in "autonomy"


In other words, feel-good BS that has no impact whatever on
actual effective patient care.

Like I said, we have the highest rate of jingoistic
blowhards in the developed world.


4) first in "timely care"


Actually the US emergengy 911 system is pretty good- I
wouldn't be surprised if it were the best or among the best
at bringing care to accidents & victims in to tertiary care.

A small but important contribution to health overall.


5) first in "confidentiality"


And how exactly is this ranked? The best kept secret is one
that nobody knows is being kept.




Does that satisfy your request for "any" metric on health in which the U.S.
is the top nation?


Yes, and it helps prove my point.

Better go chime in with Bert's response, he needs a little
more bass register:
"If'n yew-all don't like it hee-yah, then git"

DSK

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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:23:49 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:13:43 GMT, Jack Goff wrote:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:35:58 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:39:01 GMT, Jack Goff wrote:

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:20:24 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 2 Aug 2006 06:11:49 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Slow steady wins the race.

I don't think John Force would buy into that.

John Force is an idiot.

And drag racing sucks - unless it's on the street and it's a Mustang
or some crappy rice burner.

That's when the 'Vette teaches 'em a lesson. :)

You got a C6R? Anthing less and the new Mustang Cobra will show the
'vette the door! :-)

Highly unlikely. 645 hp before the NOX. :)

Ahhh... traction is your problem.

Um....I don't have a problem.

Not with traction? It's tubbed?


Especially with Mustangs. :)

Yeah... well, only little boys wear bowties.
:-)

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thunder wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:32:36 +0000, NOYB wrote:



Not *my* patients. Unless, of course, they happen to be Canadian. Why do
they spend thousands down here with me if they can get if for free up
there?


Your pleasant demeanor? ;-) I don't know. Is dental covered in Canada?

No.. not for anyone over 10 years of age in my home province.